I can't really see anyone soloing Obito

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Minato

Minato already beat Obito and if it weren't for Kurama, he would've kilt him. You say if Obito plays it smart, Minato is a genius everything he does in battle is strategic. If Anything Obito would need and not Minato.

Madara

His chakra reserves alone would qualify him as the clear winner between these two. His jutsu are arguably the most powerful jutsu we've seen thus far. His speed easily rivals that of killer bee and itachi if not surpasses. removing all other Uchiha powers that com with MS, Madara's perfect Susano'o would demolish the enviroment they were battling in, it is unstoppable so and thing Obito throws at him wouldn't work.

Hashirama

Basically the same as Madara but without the Sharingan. And if nobody Hashirama could pass Madara's Perfect Susano'o then obviously Kamui is a walk in the park.

Kakashi

He is also genius and he has Kamui as well. If his chakra reserves were higher he could beat Obito with minimal chance of being killed.

Nagato/ Paths of Pein

Nagato has all the Powers of the Paths but in one body. All Mighty push would keep Obito from hitting him with anything. The summons would keep Obito at a distance increasing the effectiveness of Almighty Push. His ability to absorb chakra would make it pointless to attack with jutsu leaving him moreless vulnerable to genjutsu.

The Separated Paths however would prove more difficult because they're multiple bodies with linked eyesight making a surprise ineffective. And genjutsu would ultimately work on some of them but not all of them. Trying transport them to the other dimension wouldn't, because they'd just do what Kakashi did, and attack what part of him was in the other dimension with thus making even more dangerous for him to fight and use Kamui.

Obito already beat Kakashi senseless, Kakashi gets stomped.

Nagato loses, Minato loses, EMS Madara loses.
 

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Prove it, don't say it.

Nagato-Can't get past Kamui, Obito's Path murk him or he warps him using Kamui or he smashes him with the Mazo. He can Shinra Tensei him away when he tries to warp him but Nagato has the 5 second interval so Obito will simply warp him then.

Kakashi-Gets murked by Rinnegan techs, Gedo Mazo, or Jins and it took him, and 3 other people just to fight against Obito and they still couldn't win, if Kakashi could beat Obito alone the other 3's help wouldn't have been needed.

Minato, gets murked by the Mazo or by his Jins.

EMS Madara- Can't get past Kamui, if he had a way to get past it he would win.
 

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Any feats from Obito suggesting he can resist Madara's EMS Tsukuyomi?

Madara's Tsukuyomi is completely featless first of all, Second of all Obito has better Genjutsu feats than him. (Controlling a Perfect Jin, Controlling the Kyuubi, Killing Konan with just his Genjutsu, keeping Danzo's goons in Genjutsu for an extended period of time).
 

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well ...... its not about what you or I can't see, its about the manga viewing madara as the ultimate uchiha (thats what really counts). maybe the writer has many ways to handle this "kamui user". if kamui was too much for all the strong kage level shinobi's then the story would have been a LOT different, obito could have captured the 5kages each one on her/his own but he didn't. he would have able to capture the nine/eight tails without making a fuss, but it seems that people are simply overrating kamui (not what the writer intended to do).
 

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well ...... its not about what you or I can't see, its about the manga viewing madara as the ultimate uchiha (thats what really counts). maybe the writer has many ways to handle this "kamui user". if kamui was too much for all the strong kage level shinobi's then the story would have been a LOT different, obito could have captured the 5kages each one on her/his own but he didn't. he would have able to capture the nine/eight tails without making a fuss, but it seems that people are simply overrating kamui (not what the writer intended to do).

When Madara shows, implies, or drops a hint that he has a way to stop Kamui then I'll believe it. I'm not going to make up fanfiction like Madara being able to stop Kamui, even when he hasn't shown a way possible.

If you can't tell me how he stops Kamui then I'm not going to bother replying again as it is just a waste of time.
 

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Nagato-Can't get past Kamui, Obito's Path murk him or he warps him using Kamui or he smashes him with the Mazo. He can Shinra Tensei him away when he tries to warp him but Nagato has the 5 second interval so Obito will simply warp him then.

Kakashi-Gets murked by Rinnegan techs, Gedo Mazo, or Jins and it took him, and 3 other people just to fight against Obito and they still couldn't win, if Kakashi could beat Obito alone the other 3's help wouldn't have been needed.

Minato, gets murked by the Mazo or by his Jins.

EMS Madara- Can't get past Kamui, if he had a way to get past it he would win.

Obito will never get close enough to warp Nagato.

Kakashi has proven he can "unwarp" himself so Kamui would be only defense and even then Kakashi could still attack him.

Minato's speed and ingenuity wouldn't allow him to be caught in Obitos attacks. Plus they both use ST jutsu so he can't be warped. and the Juubi wouldn't be able to catch Minato either.

Madara whom I'm sure possesses all MS related jutsu including Kamui. Besides if anything Obito can't get past Susano'o which he hasn't been shown to use.
 

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When Madara shows, implies, or drops a hint that he has a way to stop Kamui then I'll believe it. I'm not going to make up fanfiction like Madara being able to stop Kamui, even when he hasn't shown a way possible.

If you can't tell me how he stops Kamui then I'm not going to bother replying again as it is just a waste of time.

first of all i was talking to the thread maker so STFU, second i just removed you from the ignore list since i was in a good mood, i don't give the slightest fuc about your stupid posts (who were you again), and the last thing i have to say to you kid is watch your attitude. you already didn't understand the point i was trying to make, give it a rest ..... sheeeesh
 

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Madara's Tsukuyomi is completely featless first of all, Second of all Obito has better Genjutsu feats than him. (Controlling a Perfect Jin, Controlling the Kyuubi, Killing Konan with just his Genjutsu, keeping Danzo's goons in Genjutsu for an extended period of time).

He killed konan with just his genjutsu? Didn't he also impale her?
 

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@Kidgamer I believe time is not a factor in his void dimension, otherwise they would have died considering the were left without food and water for three to four days I presume.

I believe EMS Madara wins die to Obito's reluctance to resurrect him. If he really is above Madara, he had no reason not to bring him back. People need to remember that Madara never wanted to be revived as an Edo, but with a normal, human body.
 

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He killed konan with just his genjutsu? Didn't he also impale her?

He did, but he stated that when his illusion ends so will her life, so I'm pretty sure he killed her with the Genjutsu.

first of all i was talking to the thread maker so STFU, second i just removed you from the ignore list since i was in a good mood, i don't give the slightest fuc about your stupid posts (who were you again), and the last thing i have to say to you kid is watch your attitude. you already didn't understand the point i was trying to make, give it a rest ..... sheeeesh

Doesn't matter who you were talking to, that post was addressed to you and idiots like you getting butthurt over an ability and then start making BS up to support your claims.

I also don't give a flying rat's ass about the point you are trying to make, you have already proved to be a dumbass in the past so any point you try to make is most likely going to be retarded.

Why don't you put me back on ignore? Why'd you even take me off in the first place? I already know you put me on because you were butthurt about Jiraiya not being on Itachi's level, butthurt fanboy is butthurt.

You can put me back on ignore now, just one less idiot to deal with for me.
 

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@Kidgamer I believe time is not a factor in his void dimension, otherwise they would have died considering the were left without food and water for three to four days I presume.

I believe EMS Madara wins die to Obito's reluctance to resurrect him. If he really is above Madara, he had no reason not to bring him back. People need to remember that Madara never wanted to be revived as an Edo, but with a normal, human body.

I agree with your first point but not the second, well partly.

I agree that EMS Madara is stronger than Obito but he can't beat him in a fight since he can't hit him due to to Kamui, also Obito was never reluctant to bring Madara back, he was actually upset when Nagato betrayed him and used Rinne Tensei on the villagers, and once his only way of reviving Madara was gone he decided to go on with the plan by himself.
 

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He did, but he stated that when his illusion ends so will her life, so I'm pretty sure he killed her with the Genjutsu.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... Or she was dying? He could've said, you'll die in 3 minutes too. Whatever worked.
 

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Obito will never get close enough to warp Nagato.

Kakashi has proven he can "unwarp" himself so Kamui would be only defense and even then Kakashi could still attack him.

Minato's speed and ingenuity wouldn't allow him to be caught in Obitos attacks. Plus they both use ST jutsu so he can't be warped. and the Juubi wouldn't be able to catch Minato either.

Obito's speed>Nagato's speed. You really don't even have a counter, just a baseless, untrue statement.

Madara whom I'm sure possesses all MS related jutsu including Kamui. Besides if anything Obito can't get past Susano'o which he hasn't been shown to use.

So basically you have Minato running away the whole fight? Juubi? I'm talking about his Jinchuuriki Paths, Bijuu 2-7 not the Juubi. Unless you can tell me how Minato beats 6 Bijuu and the Mazo then Obito wins.

Assuming Obito can just kill Kakashi instead of warping him I see, Kakashi has already been shown to be weaker in manga canon so this isn't up for debate.

Where did you get the ridiculous idea of Madara having all MS Jutsu from? Obviously he doesn't. This match is a stand off as neither one can beat the other.
 

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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... Or she was dying? He could've said, you'll die in 3 minutes too. Whatever worked.

She wouldn't have bled to death from the moment she got stabbed to the moment the Genjutsu ended which was only a few minutes, and Obito stated she would die when the illusion ends. Since she couldn't have bled to death, the Genjutsu must have killed her.
 

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He did, but he stated that when his illusion ends so will her life, so I'm pretty sure he killed her with the Genjutsu.



Doesn't matter who you were talking to, that post was addressed to you and idiots like you getting butthurt over an ability and then start making BS up to support your claims.

I also don't give a flying rat's ass about the point you are trying to make, you have already proved to be a dumbass in the past so any point you try to make is most likely going to be retarded.

Why don't you put me back on ignore? Why'd you even take me off in the first place? I already know you put me on because you were butthurt about Jiraiya not being on Itachi's level, butthurt fanboy is butthurt.

You can put me back on ignore now, just one less idiot to deal with for me.

oh so you think that am making stuff up to support my claims ..... you have serious issues (you were surrounded by itachi fanboys in that thread so .... what was your point again). at one point i thought you were smart but now ..... oh god. if you didn't care then you wouldn't have bothered quoting my post. BTW i was talking about the "feats flawed logic" if you didn't get it (witch is the logic you use). but again this is not a contest and am not here to compete with confused little kids living in front of a screen. again i don't like insults and all that crap on the internet but it is the only way to talk to rude idiots like your self. advice don't quote posts your not fully capable of understanding ....
 

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oh so you think that am making stuff up to support my claims ..... you have serious issues (you were surrounded by itachi fanboys in that thread so .... what was your point again). at one point i thought you were smart but now ..... oh god. if you didn't care then you wouldn't have bothered quoting my post. BTW i was talking about the "feats flawed logic" if you didn't get it (witch is the logic you use). but again this is not a contest and am not here to compete with confused little kids living in front of a screen. again i don't like insults and all that crap on the internet but it is the only way to talk to rude idiots like you.

Not even going to bother responding to anything in your post as its just full of shit like all your other posts., weren't you going to put me on ignore? Maybe you should do that now cause I'm done replying to you.
 
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