[Theory] Doflamingo> Aokiji

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Then how does pikachu beat raichu, nidoran and onix. They are stronger and have advantage.
 

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No. First of all, Mihawk is the strongest warlord. Secondly, the marines would never give someone the title of warlord if they could not defeat them.
 

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nope, I'm implying that it doesn't help much aslong you have a greater Haki, strenght, experince etc.

That is not the case since they fought equally for 10 days which means they are about equal. If Akainu is superior in haki, stats then it wouldn't take 10 days to beat Aokiji. I think Akainu won because of his elemental advantage.
 

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nope, I'm implying that it doesn't help much aslong you have a greater Haki, strenght, experince etc.
Ace melted Aokijis ice bird fairly easily in the war, a small moment after Ace got burned by Akainu who's magma surpassed flames so Aokiji was in Enel's shoes when he fought Akainu.
 

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That is not the case since they fought equally for 10 days which means they are about equal. If Akainu is superior in haki, stats then it wouldn't take 10 days to beat Aokiji. I think Akainu won because of his elemental advantage.

Ace melted Aokijis ice bird fairly easily in the war, a small moment after Ace got burned by Akainu who's magma surpassed flames so Aokiji was in Enel's shoes when he fought Akainu.

yea. an Element advantage didn't do much if the fight really lasted 10 days.. by that logic, Akainu could melt his ice whenever he wanted.

as I said earlier, they fought equal for 10 days which means they somewat are equal in Haki, and pure strenght. Akainu just managed to beat him in the end, while he himself barely could stand as stated by Jinbe.
 
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Can't we just say that they are equal until next chapter proves otherwise? There. Everybody's happy :)
 

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yea. an Element advantage didn't do much if the fight really lasted 10 days.. by that logic, Akainu could melt his ice whenever he wanted.

as I said earlier, they fought equal for 10 days which means they somewat are equal in Haki, and pure strenght. Akainu just managed to beat him in the end, while he himself barely could stand as stated by Jinbe.

Akainu won because of elemental advantage not because he was superior in haki or stats. A hakified Magma attack is superior than a hakified Ice attack even if the users has the SAME haki mastery. Not roughly equal but EXCATLY equal. This has the same logic as to why law beat Vergo. Not because vergo has weaker haki but Law used his DF combined with his own haki even though he is weaker in the haki and physical stats area. Overall, DF could be a gamechanger.
 

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Elemental advantage doesnt mean you are stronger. You are saying because of his magma he won. If it was rayliegh he would have never won because he had no advantage of DF. And shanks too. And whitebeard too. He should have lost to akainu.
 

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Elemental advantage doesnt mean you are stronger. You are saying because of his magma he won. If it was rayliegh he would have never won because he had no advantage of DF. And shanks too. And whitebeard too. He should have lost to akainu.

Never implied this. Bad examples, prime rayleigh is featless, shanks is featless, WB is obviously superior in haki and physical stats. Nope he wouldn't since they are roughly equal in haki mastery and physical stats and DF is where Akainu is superior to Aokiji.
 

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Akainu won because of elemental advantage not because he was superior in haki or stats. A hakified Magma attack is superior than a hakified Ice attack even if the users has the SAME haki mastery. Not roughly equal but EXCATLY equal. This has the same logic as to why law beat Vergo. Not because vergo has weaker haki but Law used his DF combined with his own haki even though he is weaker in the haki and physical stats area. Overall, DF could be a gamechanger.

as I asid earlier. if his DF advantage really did that much

how can the fight last 10 days?
how can Akainu get so wounded?

according to Jinbe, it was a pretty equal fight. going by what you said, Akainu could one-shot his ice and end the battle. both are admirals, so whether they have a df advantage or not, they have enough stamina and pure strenght to do so.
 

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Who said rayliegh and shanks are featless. Rayliegh was called a legend by garp. And shanks is a yonkou (without any devil fruit)
 

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as I asid earlier. if his DF advantage really did that much

how can the fight last 10 days?
how can Akainu get so wounded?

according to Jinbe, it was a pretty equal fight. going by what you said, Akainu could one-shot his ice and end the battle. both are admirals, so whether they have a df advantage or not, they have enough stamina and pure strenght to do so.

I think you are misunderstanding me. It all comes down to DF which is obviously Akainu who is superior. How was the fight able to last 10 days? Why did it end in favor to Akainu if they are literally equal. Since we haven't seen that fight, the only thing that shows why Akainu could win was because of his elemental advantage.

Who said rayliegh and shanks are featless. Rayliegh was called a legend by garp. And shanks is a yonkou (without any devil fruit)

Thats called hype not feats.
 

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You think to become a yonkou is a hype. To me its a feat who everyone wants to achieve.
To be given the title of "silver" is a hype?
 

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You think to become a yonkou is a hype. To me its a feat who everyone wants to achieve.
To be given the title of "silver" is a hype?
 

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what u just said is stupid, i doubt Aokiji is still hurt from his fight and also when did they say dd was stronger then mihawk? unless you pull out manga pages that clears what u said up stop talking nonsense
 

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you havnt presented any evidence to back up your argument.
DF isnt stronger than Mihawk, and Mihawk fought shanks? when? Because im pretty sure I would have remembered that.
 

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you havnt presented any evidence to back up your argument.
DF isnt stronger than Mihawk, and Mihawk fought shanks? when? Because im pretty sure I would have remembered that.

Mihawk was said to fight equal with Shanks back in the days as I recall.
 
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