The manga clearly puts Itachi above Orochimaru

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Addressing all the gassed up Orochimaru fans that are jumping the gun and claiming Orochimaru is now above Itachi.

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For starters, Orochimaru admitted himself that he is inferior to Itachi.

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This was indeed after his assault on the leaf village and getting his arms and jutsu sealed away; however, he was referring to prior his assault on konoha, he wouldn't be able to defeat Itachi.
Meaning not with his current jutsu, not even with the aid of Edo Hashirama, Tobirama, and possibly Minato.


The reason I say possibly Minato, is because we don't know if Orochimaru, at that time, knew he's incapable of resurrecting the soul of those sealed within death god. According to the manga, it seemed he didn't know what happened or that Sarotobi stopped it from occurring, or Kishi just changed his mind in part 2.



Now, Orochimaru admitted this before he even knew Itachi possessed the legendary Totsuka Blade. An item Orochimaru has been searching for all his life.

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With this being said, what makes you think Orochimaru is currently above Itachi? It can be argued that Orochimarus confession of being inferior to Itachi was a while ago, but if you really think about it, besides acquiring Saratobi to his Edo collection, Orochimaru himself hasn't advanced since then. He was jutsu-less for half of part 2 and the other half sealed within Totsuka.

Itachi is still currently above Orochimaru. It makes no sense to say with the addition of Sarotobi and possibly Minato, Orochimaru can now defeat Itachi, especially when he said himself, he was incapable of doing so with Hashi and Tobirama, before he even had knowledge of Itachis Totsuka Blade. Until proven otherwise, his Edo control is no where close to utilizing their true potential and power.
Therefore Itachi > Orochimaru ...as of right now.

Note to Orochimaru fans: You can argue and say Orochimaru can beat Itachi, he has a chance, etc., etc. Just understand the manga and Orochimaru himself disagree with you ;)




In Addition:

In the event that Orochimaru and Itachi face off and Orochimaru summons the kage, Itachi won't be fighting all of them.

Not only does it take a few moments for them to appear in their coffins, but Orochimaru needs to place talismans in each of them in order to control them.

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During this time, Itachi is perfectly capable of sealing 1 of them, at the very least, with his Totsuka Sword.​
 
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Addressing all the gassed up Orochimaru fans that are jumping the gun and claiming Orochimaru is now above Itachi.

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For starters, Orochimaru admitted himself that he is inferior to Itachi.

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This was indeed after his assault on the leaf village and getting his arms and jutsu sealed away; however, he was referring to prior his assault on konoha, he wouldn't be able to defeat Itachi.
Meaning not with his current jutsu, not even with the aid of Edo Hashirama, Tobirama, and possibly Minato.


The reason I say possibly Minato, is because we don't know if Orochimaru, at that time, knew he's incapable of resurrecting the soul of those sealed within death god. According to the manga, it seemed he didn't know what happened or that Sarotobi stopped it from occurring, or Kishi just changed his mind in part 2.



Now, Orochimaru admitted this before he even knew Itachi possessed the legendary Totsuka Blade. An item Orochimaru has been searching for all his life.

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With this being said, what makes you think Orochimaru is currently above Itachi? It can be argued that Orochimarus confession of being inferior to Itachi was a while ago, but if you really think about it, besides acquiring Saratobi to his Edo collection, Orochimaru himself hasn't advanced since then. He was jutsu-less for half of part 2 and the other half sealed within Totsuka.

Itachi is still currently above Orochimaru. It makes no sense to say with the addition of Sarotobi and possibly Minato, Orochimaru can now defeat Itachi, especially when he said himself, he was incapable of doing so with Hashi and Tobirama, before he even had knowledge of Itachis Totsuka Blade. Until proven otherwise, his Edo control is no where close to utilizing their true potential and power.
Therefore Itachi > Orochimaru ...as of right now.

Note to Orochimaru fans: You can argue and say Orochimaru can beat Itachi, he has a chance, etc., etc. Just understand the manga and Orochimaru himself disagree with you ;)

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Itachi>Orochimaru...............w/o a doubt
 

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Itachi > Minato > EMS Sasuke
 

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anyway, everyone is entitled to his opinion i guess
 

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he admitted HIS inferiority to itachi. he didn't mention the kages...
 

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Post page where he said this

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Itachi > Minato > EMS Sasuke

What does that have do with this thread?

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anyway, everyone is entitled to his opinion i guess

Indeed U_U

he admitted HIS inferiority to itachi. he didn't mention the kages...

But the kages are part of his Edo Tensei, thus part of his arsenal, furthermore applies to when he admitted his inferiority.
 

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What does that have do with this thread?



Indeed U_U



But the kages are part of his Edo Tensei, thus part of his arsenal, furthermore applies to when he admitted his inferiority.

I was refering to wear Oro appearently says he was refering to prior losing his arms.
 

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I was refering to wear Oro appearently says he was refering to prior losing his arms.

"If we only got Uchiha Itachi to join us there would of been no problem at all" "That is why I left the organization" He's talking in past tense. Obviously implying before his assault on Konoha before he got his arms sealed.

wasn't it already obvious??

apparently not... :rolleyes:
 

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anyway, everyone is entitled to his opinion i guess

no room for opinions. it's not debatable as the manga has already adressed the issue. itachi wrecks him
 

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Anybody saying or over itachi is in denial. id argue sasuke over or as well. not to diss oro he is a beast but sharingaan over oro. 3 tomae sasuke broke his body take over jutsu .
 

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The only Oro that has been above Itachi so far is current orochimaru with the edo hokage's.
However people are jumping the gun. He has to use them first

I wouldn't even go as far as saying he's even above Itachi with the edo hokage's until we see how he utilizes them 4 at once. Considering the low standard he was controlling Hashi and Tobirama, I don't see him defeating him with the addition of the 3rd & 4th.

Not to mention, Itachi wouldn't be fighting all 4 as any one of them will be sealed by Totsuka before even being capable of used against him.

Anybody saying or over itachi is in denial. id argue sasuke over or as well. not to diss oro he is a beast but sharingaan over oro. 3 tomae sasuke broke his body take over jutsu .

Indeed. This scan says a lot.
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