Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

[Bogard]

I agree

Thanks

What do you mean??...this doesnt sound ridiculous at all....:sy:

This is one of those times where i actually agree with you, nice thread :y

So it seems xd

this should be obvious to all... sadly it is not. Obito got a very good deal with Itachi- help with killing off the uchiha, help with capturing the bijuu, all for not attacking Sasuke and Konoha, while Sasuke eliminated Itachi for him and left him free to manipulate Sasuke and let Pain loose on Konoha when the time came to seal the kyuubi last. plus Obito knew all about Itachi and it seems Itachi didn't know anything about Obito. he has absolutely nothing on him- tsukuyomi is useless, amaterasu even in a sneak attack failed, susanoo is a waste of stamina vs intangibility and itachi can't escape the warp.

I also thought it was obvious, sadly it wasn't. Thanks for your reply anyway

The man truly had no reason to keep Obito alive. The fact that he waited until after his demise to attempt some sort of offensive flurry speaks volumes. Itachi, so committed to protecting both his brother and his village, would 'keep' a 'weaker' person like this alive? A shadow of his former self? Itachi would keep an evil like this in the world? lol right. The man was nervous. He didn't want to make a move. Obito's Senju boosted Sharingan sees through and outlasts any illusion, Kamui trolls any attack and warps with only a single touch.

Exactly, i don't know why people can't see this tbh

 

[Itachi Solos]

Misconception number1: Obito said Itachi could have killed him if he knew his secret

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"Fortunately, i managed to keep a few secrets even from him... If i had not, i'd be dead right now"

Why are people missing the right now Obito said? right now = at the present situation, so Obito obviously talking about what just happened at the moment,

The premise you're using here is wrong.

Here is what Obito said:

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If Itachi knew Obito's secret he'd be dead. It's just that simple. It has nothing to do with a specific point in time. Obito doesn't mention the "right now" part which you keep emphasing.

 

[godzillard]

Well everyone else is still getting stronger, and he's dead.

thats the right answer..thanks kid..some people dont think the obvious..
although Itachi still has skills/jutsu/tools that could remove anyone from battle...

 

[ixc]

The man truly had no reason to keep Obito alive. The fact that he waited until after his demise to attempt some sort of offensive flurry speaks volumes. Itachi, so committed to protecting both his brother and his village, would 'keep' a 'weaker' person like this alive? A shadow of his former self? Itachi would keep an evil like this in the world? lol right. The man was nervous. He didn't want to make a move. Obito's Senju boosted Sharingan sees through and outlasts any illusion, Kamui trolls any attack and warps with only a single touch.

Itachi was a spy, and had to stay in the shadows to spy on the Akatsuki, it wasn't clear who was the leader of Akatsuki, besides if he killed Obito, Nagato would have taken over without a doubt and Itachi had revealed his true identity for nothing. Simply logics, but you're noddy what to expect from both you and Bogard, Itachi haters.

Itachi fodderizes any character.

 

[julio10ification]

i agree with this 100% sadly the itachi fanboys will disagree

 

[Draphsin]

Don't forget it's bogard we're talking about. Itachi is way stronger than both Obito and Minato, it's just him denying it, like all the others who agree with this thread.

Obito clearly said: ''Had he known about my secret'' his secret is obviously Kamui. Obito knew what Itachi was capable of, and Obito knew that Itachi would have been able to find a weakness in Kamui, Itachi has Kage Bunshins that can explode, this alone is an example to counter Kamui.

Obito is a fodder Uchiha, Itachi is a genius above all others, even among the Uchiha.
Itachi mastered his Sharingan and had the MS Sharingan when Obito just activated his normal Sharingan.

Do not compare a fodder to a genius like Itachi.

BOLD: It's funny how your genius failed to kill obito the "fodder" :sy:

lmao....the first bold made me laugh, if obito was so fodder then how was he able to keep a secret like that from your supposed "genius" when konan figured it out no problem. The fact that itachi, the kage level thinker wasnt able to fully grasp obito's ability before he died thoroughly proves that obito>itachi...come at me bro

The premise you're using here is wrong.

Here is what Obito said:

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If Itachi knew Obito's secret he'd be dead. It's just that simple. It has nothing to do with a specific point in time. Obito doesn't mention the "right now" part which you keep emphasing.

LOL keyword being if....If itachi was so smart then he would've found out a way to kill obito or find out his secrets, but the fact oif the matter is that he DIDNT. This fact alone proves that obito>itachi

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

Obito would bang Itachi, it's about time these fanboys dealt with it. A mere 3T Sasuke broke Tsukuyomi, and you think a fully fledged MS master would get one shotted with genjutsu? GTFO.

Ahh not you too, CB. You know very well that Itachi held back and schemed that entire battle (except Kirin) out.

Why are you so nervous?

Huhhh? I'm just defending Itachi from this b/s.:shrug:

The man truly had no reason to keep Obito alive. The fact that he waited until after his demise to attempt some sort of offensive flurry speaks volumes. Itachi, so committed to protecting both his brother and his village, would 'keep' a 'weaker' person like this alive? A shadow of his former self? Itachi would keep an evil like this in the world? lol right. The man was nervous. He didn't want to make a move. Obito's Senju boosted Sharingan sees through and outlasts any illusion, Kamui trolls any attack and warps with only a single touch.

Plot no jutsu is an excuse in most cases, but OBVIOUSLY Kishi wouldn't have had Itachi kill the main antagonist. That's Naruto's job. Plus, if Itachi killed Obito early on, then there would be no war arc.
Obito only has a single one shot. Itachi had KA, Tsukiyomi, and Totsuka Blade. Yeah yeah, Amaterasu works too slowly for Itachi to get Obito with it, I admit. Though do you think the smartest guy in the series couldn't have killed a guy with average intelligence?

 

[OnPoint]

Itachi was a spy, and had to stay in the shadows to spy on the Akatsuki, it wasn't clear who was the leader of Akatsuki, besides if he killed Obito, Nagato would have taken over without a doubt and Itachi had revealed his true identity for nothing. Simply logics, but you're noddy what to expect from both you and Bogard, Itachi haters.

Itachi fodderizes any character.

Well, if i'm not agreeing with the notion that 'Itachi fodderizes any character', then yeah, I must be 'an Itachi hater'.

Seriously, ixc, no-one takes you seriously. So please, keep believing what you want to believe.

 

[Minator93]

Don't forget it's bogard we're talking about. Itachi is way stronger than both Obito and Minato, it's just him denying it, like all the others who agree with this thread.

Obito clearly said: ''Had he known about my secret'' his secret is obviously Kamui. Obito knew what Itachi was capable of, and Obito knew that Itachi would have been able to find a weakness in Kamui, Itachi has Kage Bunshins that can explode, this alone is an example to counter Kamui.

Obito is a fodder Uchiha, Itachi is a genius above all others, even among the Uchiha.
Itachi mastered his Sharingan and had the MS Sharingan when Obito just activated his normal Sharingan.

Do not compare a fodder to a genius like Itachi.

And the biggest fail post award goes to...ixc

1. Obito's secrete was him not being Madara U_U and not his S/T ability.

2. Obito is gdlk Uchiha compared to him Itachi is a fodder U_U

3. Obito>Minato>>Itachi U_U


@ Bogard. Nice thread Its very obvious but a thread was in order.

 

[PredictionGuru]

Huhhh? I'm just defending Itachi from this b/s.:shrug:

Then don't overreact.
That's what Itachi-sensei would've wanted. :scorps:

:itachi: : "Kids, keep the discussion civil or I'll rape yo ass!" :T_T:

 

[Draphsin]

Someone like DrProof or Blaze Release could EASILY make a "MS Obito was weaker than Itachi" thread and make it look all nice and give great explanations. Then there'll be a bunch of "I agree" replies on that thread as well. This thread doesn't prove crap.

They won't get an "i agree" from me if they're wrong...:shrug: This, however is 100% right and you have to be a fanboy to disagree

 

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

Didn't Obito's ball jiggle at the site of Danzo, a NON-UCHIHA who possesses the Kotoamatsukami?

I don't see any reason why Itachi cannot defeat him nor can he break out of Tsukuyomi.

 

[OnPoint]

Plot no jutsu is an excuse in most cases, but OBVIOUSLY Kishi wouldn't have had Itachi kill the main antagonist. That's Naruto's job. Plus, if Itachi killed Obito early on, then there would be no war arc.
Obito only has a single one shot. Itachi had KA, Tsukiyomi, and Totsuka Blade. Yeah yeah, Amaterasu works too slowly for Itachi to get Obito with it, I admit. Though do you think the smartest guy in the series couldn't have killed a guy with average intelligence?

The fact remains that he waited until after his death to make a move against a man he knew was a threat to both Sasuke and Konoha. A man he described as a 'shadow of his former self'. Kamui is just too hax. Itachi's arsenal isn't besting Kamui, Izanagi and Mokuton. Obito knew everything about Itachi. Itachi had limited knowledge regarding Obito. The latter is just starting any canon fight between the two with an advantage, and is the clear favourite to snatch victory. The only thing Itachi has which would cause problems is Izanami, and that requires shared physical sensation between the two. If Obito touches him even once, the fight ends, so taking that route is practically suicide on Itachi's part.

Obito trolled the combined efforts of Naruto, Gai, Kakashi and Bee with nothing more than Kamui and his Gunbai. He was disappearing into the ground and popping up fast enough to land a finishing touch on his opponents (which Naruto only survived because of his abilities to sense negative emotions), a touch which, canonically, not even Minato's Hiraishin would be quick enough to escape. The man would literally walk through Susano'o. He's more experienced than Itachi. He deceived Itachi. Kamui isn't being beaten without some form of S/T Ninjutsu or years of prep time.

 

[YellowFlash1]

I agree bro!

I also believe that Obito kept his deal with Itachi, because he was a great asset to the akatuski. There would have been no reason to kill him, infact he would of put them at a disadvantage.

I like Itachi, although i know him limits... Others usually try take things from the manga and twist them around, in to something it's not.

Good Thread!

 

[Bogard]

The fact remains that he waited until after his death to make a move against a man he knew was a threat to both Sasuke and Konoha. A man he described as a 'shadow of his former self'.

About the Shadow of the former self thing, he never said something like this in other versions i've read than narutobase versions. Even in the viz, he never said that, so i really wonder why people keep saying this:

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[ixc]

And the biggest fail post award goes to...Minator93

1. Obito's secrete was him not being Madara U_U and not his S/T ability.

2. Obito is gdlk Uchiha compared to him Itachi is a fodder U_U

3. Obito>Minato>>Itachi U_U


@ Bogard. Nice thread Its very obvious but a thread was in order.

Talking about yourself i see, how come your praise your own comment as the most failed comment ever? Low self-esteem?

Itachi fodderizes anyone.

Itachi > Narutoverse you're just butthurt.

 

[ixc]

BOLD: It's funny how your genius failed to kill obito the "fodder" :sy:

lmao....the first bold made me laugh, if obito was so fodder then how was he able to keep a secret like that from your supposed "genius" when konan figured it out no problem. The fact that itachi, the kage level thinker wasnt able to fully grasp obito's ability before he died thoroughly proves that obito>itachi...come at me bro



LOL keyword being if....If itachi was so smart then he would've found out a way to kill obito or find out his secrets, but the fact oif the matter is that he DIDNT. This fact alone proves that obito>itachi

Itachi never fought against Obito so how would he know what Jutsu's Obito had? you must be completely stupid.

 

[ixc]

Well, if i'm not agreeing with the notion that 'Itachi fodderizes any character', then yeah, I must be 'an Itachi hater'.

Seriously, ixc, no-one takes you seriously. So please, keep believing what you want to believe.

What i believe is the truth, you're just butthurt, cry me an ocean.

 

[OnPoint]

@Bogard, it's just dependent on the translation. The point was that Itachi didn't think that Obito was the bees knees. In your case, that he was a 'defeated dog'. He's saying these things yet he doesn't want to make a move until after he's dead. It says alot.

 

[Bogard]

And the biggest fail post award goes to...ixc

1. Obito's secrete was him not being Madara U_U and not his S/T ability.

2. Obito is gdlk Uchiha compared to him Itachi is a fodder U_U

3. Obito>Minato>>Itachi U_U


@ Bogard. Nice thread Its very obvious but a thread was in order.

Thanks bro

I agree bro!

I also believe that Obito kept his deal with Itachi, because he was a great asset to the akatuski. There would have been no reason to kill him, infact he would of put them at a disadvantage.

I like Itachi, although i know him limits... Others usually try take things from the manga and twist them around, in to something it's not.

Good Thread!

True that Itachi was also a great asset for Akatsuki, another reason why killing Itachi was unnecessary, far from it. Thanks for agreeing with me anyway