Kisame Hoshigaki Vs Diedara

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According to you, Kisame can't absorb Deidara's explosions.
The dome itself doesn't absorb chakra, how exactly does he deal with the explosions?
If the bombs go inside the water dome before exploding, they become useless for the reasons I already stated. If Deidara decides to blow the bombs up prematurely, Kisame won't get killed by them because they will be too far away to do meaningful damage and Kisame did tank Killer Bee's lariat. He can heal via samehada. Not to mention that water will cushion the impact from an explosion.
 

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On the contrary Kisame can counter c4. Samehada absorbs the chakra from the nano bombs thereby defusing them. Just because one doesn't have lighting doesn't mean they can't counter c4 as there are many other ways of doing so. I'm quite curious why you dislike Kakashi, or should I say, kamui fan boys when you just did the exact same thing.

C3 can be countered if Kisame goes at the very bottom of his water dome, he can be cushioned from the resulting explosion and the damage would be minimal, something that Kisame can heal from.

Regular bombs can be washed away by powerful suiton or the chakra can be absorbed from them which would allow their danger to be nullified..

OT: I'll go with Kisame high difficulty.
the main reason I dislike kamui one-shots arguement is because it basically gives Kakashi an omnipotent power, enabling him to beat anyone bar Tobi. I don't consider C4 omnipotent, there are many ways to get past it:
-Flying above the cloud
-Running away from the blast radius
-Doujutsu
-Destroying the C4 Doll and the nano bombs with a destructive jutsu (like TBB or Rasenshuriken)
-Lightning Armor
-a Chakra Cloak
 

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Due to its voracious appetite, Samehada is drawn to those with large chakra supplies, allowing it to be used as a quasi-sensor.

Control F the sentence in italics from the link I just gave you.

The context implies Samehada's likeness. quasi means "Having a likeness to something; resembling". Samehada was attracted to Bee's chakra (Octopus taste), thus it tracked down what it liked IN THE WATER DOME (caps for importance).

Sorry but I just don't see a counter for C4 in Kisame's arsenal.
Bold 2:Kisame could use the water dome as a distraction while he himself goes underneath the ground and swim away at high speeds. The water dome should reduce the impact of the explosion allowing Kisame to escape with some injuries that can be healed from.

Bold 3: I know but I consider Kisame to be on a slightly higher tier than Deidara.
Yea, I wouldn't call that proof of Samehada's feat.
 

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the main reason I dislike kamui one-shots arguement is because it basically gives Kakashi an omnipotent power, enabling him to beat anyone bar Tobi. I don't consider C4 omnipotent, there are many ways to get past it:
-Flying above the cloud
-Running away from the blast radius
-Doujutsu
-Destroying the C4 Doll and the nano bombs with a destructive jutsu (like TBB or Rasenshuriken)
-Lightning Armor
-a Chakra Cloak
I tend to give Kakashi the victory depending on whether his opponent can overwhelm him easily or not. People like Sasuke can be one shotted by kamui but Sasuke will overwhelm Kakashi easily so kamui is a moot point. Against Tsunade, I would give Kakashi the victory because Kakashi can hold his own for a while before resorting to using kamui.
Yea, I wouldn't call that proof of Samehada's feat.
Fine Deidara wins but are you sure that samehada won't be able to absorb the chakra?
 

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I tend to give Kakashi the victory depending on whether his opponent can overwhelm him easily or not. People like Sasuke can be one shotted by kamui but Sasuke will overwhelm Kakashi easily so kamui is a moot point. Against Tsunade, I would give Kakashi the victory because Kakashi can hold his own for a while before resorting to using kamui.

Fine Deidara wins but are you sure that samehada won't be able to absorb the chakra?
He can absorb, but the question is how? How will he know what to absorb. Especially when it gets into Kisames system.
 
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