obito>madara

[King-Panda]

I do agree that Madara can beat Obito but your reasoning is extremely flawed.

Obito said that Madara isn't taking out the alliance with the Juubi's Bijuu Dama is because he needs him to become the Jin. Keywords are Juubi's Bijuu Dama.

Meteor? That obviously won't work as Obito can turn intangible to evade it. Covering a wide radius is NOT the way to defeat Obito's Kamui.

exactly, his reason is weak, and keeps repeating the same thing lol, still haven't said how madara would defeat obito

Yes him saying your forced to do what i say completely omits what obito said earlier.

Funny how you selectively choose to listen to what obito says lol

I don't call everyone stupid just stupid people.And if saying stupid things doesn't make you stupid what does ?

As I said, that is from the thread I did earlier, which is also mentioned in this one

Bro, I see where you're coming from but what Obito said isn't true. I know you may think I'm stupid, but Madara would have to continuously attack Obito for 5 minutes straight. Of course he doesn't have an attack like that. What Obito said was illogical and for plot purposes. You must take into account what the techniques actually do and not what other people say.

Obito can stay in the other dimension if he wants to though, 5 minutes is the limit time to keep swtiching dimensions, i think, not sure

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

First of, stop insulting, they don't work but still disrespectful. some people can't just discuss without insulting, in other words, inferior mentality, but if you want manga I give you it


Okay I'll respond with this image in the thread a mentioned which you all are saying is spam -.-'

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Yes him saying your forced to do what i say completely omits what obito said earlier.

Funny how you selectively choose to listen to what obito says lol

I don't call everyone stupid just stupid people.And if saying stupid things doesn't make you stupid what does ?

What else did you conveniently decide to leave out ?

Oh yes the bottom panels.
Now lets see what those panels were shall we ?

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[SilverSlick]

exactly, his reason is weak, and keeps repeating the same thing lol, still haven't said how madara would defeat obito




As I said, that is from the thread I did earlier, which is also mentioned in this one


Obito can stay in the other dimension if he wants to though, 5 minutes is the limit time to keep swtiching dimensions, i think, not sure

Nah, 5 minutes is the minimum he can stay intangible. If he wanted, he could teleport there instead of just teleporting parts of his body. Of course, that is much slower.

 

[ARandomBlackKid]

Technically Obito is the one calling the shots also Obito could put up a good fight vs Madara.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Bro, I see where you're coming from but what Obito said isn't true. I know you may think I'm stupid, but Madara would have to continuously attack Obito for 5 minutes straight. Of course he doesn't have an attack like that. What Obito said was illogical and for plot purposes. You must take into account what the techniques actually do and not what other people say.


EDIT: Just noticed it was talking about the Juubi's Bijuu Dama, no an attack that's coming from Madara which makes that manga page irrelevant to the topic in question.

The bijuu dama covers a large radius.

Are you saying a meteor does not ?
Are you saying that the collision and the fall out of a meteor or two is under five minutes.Are you saying that at the end of those five minutes madara cannot simply drop another one ?

Your argument is flawed

You do not overrule the manga or what obito himself says or you end up selectively choosing what to listen to like the guy above me
which could in turn make you a hypocrite.



When obito himself says he would die then i take that and run with it.

If he said "madara just do it anyway and i will transfer to my pocket dimension" then i would of taken that and ran with it.

I go by the manga not opinion that defies the manga.

If we stop listening to what the people in the manga say where do we pool our sources from ?

You know since the manga is what were talking about

 

[King-Panda]

Yes him saying your forced to do what i say completely omits what obito said earlier.

Funny how you selectively choose to listen to what obito says lol

I don't call everyone stupid just stupid people.And if saying stupid things doesn't make you stupid what does ?

What else did you conveniently decide to leave out ?

Oh yes the bottom panels.
Now lets see what those panels were shall we ?

Next time read the reply post before talking again. And as I said twice, third time now, this was made for my other thread to highlight that Obito didn't like Madara

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[Varrah]

Are you being biased or are you honestly wanting to know how Madara can defeat Obito?​

 

[King-Panda]

Nah, 5 minutes is the minimum he can stay intangible. If he wanted, he could teleport there instead of just teleporting parts of his body. Of course, that is much slower.

That's why I can't see how obito could be defeated by madara. Maybe because people saw minato hitting him, they are underrating him...

The bijuu dama covers a large radius.

Are you saying a meteor does not ?
Are you saying that the collision and the fall out of a meteor or two is under five minutes.Are you saying that at the end of those five minutes madara cannot simply drop another one ?

Your argument is flawed

You do not overrule the manga or what obito himself says or you end up selectively choosing what to listen to like the guy above men
which could in turn make you a hypocrite.

Obito can teleport to another dimension, for how long he wants. 5 minutes will be if he wants to keep switching dimensions

Are you being biased or are you honestly wanting to know how Madara can defeat Obito?​

If you got the answer tell me, and I'll respond how Obito would avoid that

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

I do agree that Madara can beat Obito but your reasoning is extremely flawed.

Obito said that Madara isn't taking out the alliance with the Juubi's Bijuu Dama is because he needs him to become the Jin. Keywords are Juubi's Bijuu Dama.

Meteor? That obviously won't work as Obito can turn intangible to evade it. Covering a wide radius is NOT the way to defeat Obito's Kamui.

Um that is the only way to beat out kamui.

unless you somehow slept through the whole konan fight.

It was a large radius then lasted longer then 5 minutes.


A meteor drops and it causes an explosion of the crust surface

Now i am NO meteorologist but i do know it only takes a certain sized meteor to cause major damage to the earth now the one that madara summoned was way bigger then what is needed for a natural disaster.That in turn would cause more then enough devastation that last longer then 5 minutes.

 

[SilverSlick]

The bijuu dama covers a large radius.

Are you saying a meteor does not ?
Are you saying that the collision and the fall out of a meteor or two is under five minutes.Are you saying that at the end of those five minutes madara cannot simply drop another one ?

Your argument is flawed

You do not overrule the manga or what obito himself says or you end up selectively choosing what to listen to like the guy above me
which could in turn make you a hypocrite.



When obito himself says he would die then i take that and run with it.

If he said "madara just do it anyway and i will transfer to my pocket dimension" then i would of taken that and ran with it.

I go by the manga not opinion that defies the manga.

If we stop listening to what the people in the manga say where do we pool our sources from ?

You know since the manga is what were talking about

The "fallout" of the two meteors Madara unleashed earlier wasn't even that bad. In fact, there was no fallout.[

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] I mean, I don't even understand your point.

If we were to consider this a vs thread, then must we agree that the two are at their primes. Since both were controlling the Juubi, neither should have it. And as I stated above, your meteor theory isn't right. Not to mention him bringing down even 1 meteor of that size from space was a fluke.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Next time read the reply post before talking again. And as I said twice, third time now, this was made for my other thread to highlight that Obito didn't like Madara

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You were using that as a poor excuse to switch topics since you clearly could not offer a response to the post i made earlier then i reposted your image with the whole page in tact which changes the context of the page.

Don't play me and don't play yourself.

 

[King-Panda]

Um that is the only way to beat out kamui.

unless you somehow slept through the whole konan fight.

It was a large radius then lasted longer then 5 minutes.


A meteor drops and it causes an explosion of the crust surface

Now i am NO meteorologist but i do know it only takes a certain sized meteor to cause major damage to the earth now the one that madara summoned was way bigger then what is needed for a natural disaster.That in turn would cause more then enough devastation that last longer then 5 minutes.

"Meteorology is the interdisciplinary scientific study of the atmosphere" LOOOOL
(By the way, I do Geology (don't confuse with geography), and by coincidence, next week we are doing practical coursework about meteors...)

You still don't get it, Obito can just go to the other dimension and stay there

 

[SilverSlick]

Oh yeah, not trying to say the fallout of meteors would be nonexistent, its just in NV it is.

EDIT: RockPain, your not really helping to support your case when you just say Obito can just go intangible. He has to do attacks as well.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

The "fallout" of the two meteors Madara unleashed earlier wasn't even that bad. In fact, there was no fallout.[

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] I mean, I don't even understand your point.

If we were to consider this a vs thread, then must we agree that the two are at their primes. Since both were controlling the Juubi, neither should have it. And as I stated above, your meteor theory isn't right. Not to mention him bringing down even 1 meteor of that size from space was a fluke.

There was no fall out because onoki made them weightless and almost died as a result.

And a meteor half that size would cause major wherever it landed.That is not my opinion that is a fact.


Fluke ? Do you even know what fluke means ?
I don't even know how to respond to that.

You need to go do some research my friend and then look up a little something called
chain reaction and cause and effect.

 

[shogun973]

Drop meteors until 5 min is up? Souls steal, CT will still attract obito to its core,

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

"Meteorology is the interdisciplinary scientific study of the atmosphere" LOOOOL
(By the way, I do Geology (don't confuse with geography), and by coincidence, next week we are doing practical coursework about meteors...)

You still don't get it, Obito can just go to the other dimension and stay there

And the atmosphere is the earths defense of foreign invasive objects DUMBASS

If a meteor the size of a foot ball stadium can bypass the atmosphere and cause irreparable harm then the one he brought down (You know the obviously way bigger then a foot ball field meteor) then its going to cause a chain reaction that would far outlast five minutes.

 

[SilverSlick]

There was no fall out because onoki made them weightless and almost died as a result.

And a meteor half that size would cause major wherever it landed.That is not my opinion that is a fact.


Fluke ? Do you even know what fluke means ?
I don't even know how to respond to that.

You need to go do some research my friend and then look up a little something called
chain reaction and cause and effect.

Bro, Onoki only made one of them go weightless, not the other one. As I stated above, I'm not saying you're wrong, its just that logic doesn't apply to NV.

Fluke means unlikely occurrence or luck so I don't see how doesn't apply to Madara pulling two meteors of that size out of space.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Drop meteors until 5 min is up? Souls steal, CT will still attract obito to its core,

Meteors as in more then one is possible but not necessary please try and keep up.

 

[shogun973]

That's why I can't see how obito could be defeated by madara. Maybe because people saw minato hitting him, they are underrating him...



Obito can teleport to another dimension, for how long he wants. 5 minutes will be if he wants to keep switching dimensions


If you got the answer tell me, and I'll respond how Obito would avoid that

5 min max not min...it's ready been proving he's not actually teleporting like goku or something

 

[KidGamer65]

Um that is the only way to beat out kamui.

unless you somehow slept through the whole konan fight.

It was a large radius then lasted longer then 5 minutes.


A meteor drops and it causes an explosion of the crust surface

Now i am NO meteorologist but i do know it only takes a certain sized meteor to cause major damage to the earth now the one that madara summoned was way bigger then what is needed for a natural disaster.That in turn would cause more then enough devastation that last longer then 5 minutes.

Did the explosion or impact caused by Madara's meteor in the manga last for more than 5 minutes? No it didn't.
The only ways to beat Kamui are:

1.Have Kakashi's Kamui.
2.Attack him while he is attacking.
3.Causing a long continuous attack that lasts for 5 min straight with NO pause.

Meteor is none of those.