Rinnegan Soul Removal

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I have a theory on the Soul Removal about why Nagato took a while to take out Naruto's Soul.

People thought it was just plot so that Naruto wouldn't die but I think it actually does take long to take out the soul. The reason the 6 paths version looked so quick when removing Shizunes soul was because as he had his hand on her head for so long I think he was actually gathering the soul then and just removed it all at once as soon as the soul was gathered. With Nagato using it on Naruto he started pulling it out before fully gathering the soul and thats why it looked like it took so long to remove it.

So basically 6 paths version did take long to remove the soul but it looked like he did it instantly but he actually didn't as he had to gather the soul first.

 

[kakashi ms]

may you are right

 

[Recable]

may you are right

Thanks.

 

[Yatori]

Its makes sense hmmm

 

[Ventalus]

Don't know. Souls saying being in stomach because there is where all energy is coming from.

I believe it's more likey because Nagato was under control so Kabuto did not really know how it worked, and it could be as well that he needed to drag out Kurama as well but once again Naruto did fought for his soul. Shizune did not. But perhaps you're right.

Naruto story does not really make senses anyway lol.

 

[Form]

Plausible theory.

 

[Recable]

Don't know. Souls saying being in stomach because there is where all energy is coming from.

I believe it's more likey because Nagato was under control so Kabuto did not really know how it worked, and it could be as well that he needed to drag out Kurama as well but once again Naruto did fought for his soul. Shizune did not. But perhaps you're right.

Well if it was instant he would have pulled it out before Naruto could fight back as Naruto started pulling on it near the end of the removal. Kurama wouldn't change a thing in my opinion because he is pulling out Naruto's soul not both or Kurama's but I guess it could be true. Thanks for reading.

Edit: Also I don't know what you meant about the stomach part.

Second Edit: About Kabuto controlling I think he just set Nagato to control his boyd but attack anyone near by so that Nagato cna use his abilities to the bets he can then once Nagato wins control him again.

 

[Draphsin]

idk cuz naruto had a hold of his soul with his chakra, i think it depends on the persons chakra/will. Shizune wasnt "holding on" to her soul, and she has a weaker will than naruto. I think it makes more sense that human path was gathering intel before finally finishing the deed

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As you can see here human path realizes that the shinobi has no intel before finally removing his soul (which looks like a piece of cake)

Edit: i just realized that this image proves that regardless of how long it takes to absorb the soul, the jutsu itself still paralyzes you if human path is holding on to your head

 

[Ventalus]

Well if it was instant he would have pulled it out before Naruto could fight back as Naruto started pulling on it near the end of the removal. Kurama wouldn't change a thing in my opinion because he is pulling out Naruto's soul not both or Kurama's but I guess it could be true. Thanks for reading.

Edit: Also I don't know what you meant about the stomach part.

Second Edit: About Kabuto controlling I think he just set Nagato to control his boyd but attack anyone near by so that Nagato cna use his abilities to the bets he can then once Nagato wins control him again.

Spiritual chakra + Physical chakra are both in the stomach. Spiritual chakra is the spirit itself if I understand right.
Remember all those pictures they show in Naruto like when Naruto is gonna learn Sennin mode? There are two basic chakras in you, Spiritual & Physical chakra. To get Sennin mode you need to balance those two basic with Nature Chakra/energy.
Chakra contains memories that was probably one of the reason why Nagato could know where Naruto was when he dragged out Shizune's 'soul'.

Second If Nagato wasn't fully control then he could have chooses with abilities he want to use and how he wanna play. So I believe more likely he was fully controlled by Kabuto.

I don't know, like I said Naruto does not really make senses sometimes xd

 

[Lentz]

It takes longer for Nagato to handle the soul of a jinchuuiki with freakin' nine tails chakra active.

 

[mikey18307]

thats a possibility..but if you think about it...nagato startd sucking naruto's soul from his stomach area which is were the kyuubi's tetragram seal is.So it probably took longer bcos he wasnt just suckin naruto's soul but probably kurama as well

 

[uchihadesendent]

I like this theory! Plus the reason why I think it took longer to take out naruto's soul is because he used his chakra arms to take back hissoul or at least make nagato struggle with it!

 

[Waltz]

I'll flaw your theory

Nagato wasn't sealing just naruto. He was also sealing the kyuubi's soul. Now, The kyuubi's chakra and soul is extremely difficult to seal:

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at the rate Naraka path absorbed shizune's soul it would take nagato a MUCH longer time to abosrb naruto's and the kyuubi's, Even Minato said:

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The problem wasn't naruto, it was the kyuubi.

 

[Khallil]

or it has to do something with the kyuubi..?

 

[Recable]

Puppy you did not flaw my theory a single bit. Nagato was only targeting Naruto's soul and everyone Nagato used the Soul Removal on took a long time, either by holdling on to their head (like I said gathering the soul) or pullnig it straihgt out but still take long liek when used on Naruto. If he was also targetting Kurama why was the soul just a normal human soul? It would have been a lot more demon like or at least red.

 

[Waltz]

Puppy you did not flaw my theory a single bit. Nagato was only targeting Naruto's soul and everyone Nagato used the Soul Removal on took a long time, either by holdling on to their head (like I said gathering the soul) or pullnig it straihgt out but still take long liek when used on Naruto. If he was also targetting Kurama why was the soul just a normal human soul? It would have been a lot more demon like or at least red.

Naruto Was in KM. Do you know what KM is? Naruto's Chakra and the kyuubi's chakra were in sync. Sealing the soul includes sealing the Chakra according to this:

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If naruto's chakra and the kyuubi's chakra were in sync then he was also sealing the kyuubi's other half.

 

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Naruto Was in KM. Do you know what KM is? Naruto's Chakra and the kyuubi's chakra were in sync. Sealing the soul includes sealing the Chakra according to this:

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If naruto's chakra and the kyuubi's chakra were in sync then he was also sealing the kyuubi's other half.

Soul Removal removes the soul of the target not the chakra. Their chakra may be in sync but their soul don't sync at all. Everyone still has their own soul even if something is sealed inside of them.

 

[Waltz]

Soul Removal removes the soul of the target not the chakra. Their chakra may be in sync but their soul don't sync at all. Everyone still has their own soul even if something is sealed inside of them.

Manga > Your words. Unless you can show me this in a scan.

Actually the kyuubi doesn't have a soul, it's made purely out of chakra. The kyuubi's chakra is it's soul.

 

[Lentz]

I think this is just a matter of common sense...

 

[Recable]

Manga > Your words. Unless you can show me this in a scan.


The Kyuubi's chakra is in sync with it's soul based on Minato's Statement and the fact that he was sealing the kyuubi's soul because that's what DDS does.

Where does it say that Narutos soul and Kuramas soul is linked? Soul Removal only removes the soul not their chakra. Also why is RDS come up? Its not even the same thing. To be honest I think your to desperate to prove me wrong that your now saying thigns like "Manag > your words" when you still haven't proved a thing using the manga. Your talknig as if RDS is the same as Nagato's Soul Removal. Naurto's and Kurama's soul are not linked it has never said this in the manga and if Nagato was targetting both then the soul would have been more demon/fox like or even a bit red but no it was just a normal soul.

Edit: I just noticed your edit about Kurama not having a soul which also proves me right. If Kurama don't have a Soul then the Soul Removal wouldn't effect him as it rips out their soul not chakra.