can we agree on obitos motive

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As it may a seam, obito wants to destroy the ninja world over the death of a girl that didn't even love him, and people like garra and nagato had it much worse than him. you don't see them starting acting out like obito
 

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I don't agree on his motive, but he was pretty much manipulated by Madara.
 

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I still think there's more to it than what Obito's letting on, and I have a funny feeling Madara's in for a very unpleasant surprise.
 

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I still think there's more to it than what Obito's letting on, and I have a funny feeling Madara's in for a very unpleasant surprise.

It's the other way around.

You people must think Madara smirked for no reason despite Obito completely foiling his plan?
 

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Nope, as a fandom, we will never agree on anything.
 

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It's the other way around.

You people must think Madara smirked for no reason despite Obito completely foiling his plan?

Madara is going to troll Obito so hard
 

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It's the other way around.

You people must think Madara smirked for no reason despite Obito completely foiling his plan?

lol actually, I think they are going to betray each other, but I keep thinking since day 1 when old Madara was manipulating him, he was returning the favor.
 

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Nonsense...Obito is doing this so people won't go throw what he did not because Rin.

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Nonsense...Obito is doing this so people won't go throw what he did not because Rin.

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His actions don't coincide what he supposedly attempting to prevent people from going through.
 

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His actions don't coincide what he supposedly attempting to prevent people from going through.

Wrong, by doing this people won't have be worry about hurting each other ever single day with their Villages stupid wars....Ninjas die like every day so their Villages can keep their power..people like Nagato,Sasuke,Naruto,Garra,Bee, and Itachi lost everything this stupid Villages can get peace and power.

Sasuke: Lost his family and Clan becuase this dumb Village didn't take time to know Obito attacked the Village...instead they go after the Uchihas like the complete morons they are.

Nagato: his family got killed by Konoha ninjas so call have the "Will Of Fire" and his Village got destroyed the so call Five great nations who fight for the peace...don't make laugh

Garra: please, don't get me started on Garra...his own damn father tried to use him as a weapon and lied to him about his mother love for Garra...Garra wouldn't haven't being like that in the first place and wouldn't have killed so many people if that damn Kage didn't lie to him.
 

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nope, he wants to stop all the killing. Rin's death was the trigger
 

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He is nor trying to put the world in a genjutsu because of rin, rin's death made him realise that this reality is hell and the longer you live in it the more pain that comes. It's the same with yahiko's death with nagato, nagato is was not gathering all the tailed beast to use because yahiko died he is doing it because of what yahiko's death made him realise and that is what obito told him about this reality being hell. So get your facts right.

As for him using a genjutsu to control the world, that is because he is a naive child who saw madara's moons eye plan as the best way out of things.
 

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Your examples aren't really that good. Both Nagato and Gaara acted out big time. Gaara killed quite a few innocents and enjoyed it as well.. while Nagato slaughtered Hanzo and his relatives, and destroyed an entire village.

I do agree that Obito's backstory should've revealed more sinister moments to make his change into Tobi reasonable/acceptable, but that's not really what Kishi wishes to portray with his characters. The entire manga is about bonds and goals, gaining them and losing them. Obito lost the only bonds he had and failed his life goal, which is to protect his friends. He got confronted by the fact that Madara was right, which makes the Infinite Tsukuyomi plan suddenly sound a lot more reasonable.
 

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Wrong, by doing this people won't have be worry about hurting each other ever single day with their Villages stupid wars....Ninjas die like every day so their Villages can keep their power..people like Nagato,Sasuke,Naruto,Garra,Bee, and Itachi lost everything this stupid Villages can get peace and power.

Sasuke: Lost his family and Clan becuase this dumb Village didn't take time to know Obito attacked the Village...instead they go after the Uchihas like the complete morons they are.

Nagato: his family got killed by Konoha ninjas so call have the "Will Of Fire" and his Village got destroyed the so call Five great nations who fight for the peace...don't make laugh

Garra: please, don't get me started on Garra...his own damn father tried to use him as a weapon and lied to him about his mother love for Garra...Garra wouldn't haven't being like that in the first place and wouldn't have killed so many people if that damn Kage didn't lie to him.

The problem is peace and the shinobi world are two things that will not be able to coexist, and I'm very sure that Madara knows this. Obito has killed numerous people in hopes of being reunited with Rin with the guise of attempting to create peace. If the Infinte Tsukuyomi does actually occur there will still be deaths as the peace Obito's attempting to bring is only an illusion. Those under the effects of the genjutsu are still subject to to the harsh realities their bodies will have to face, specifically starvation and lack of nutrients. In their minds they'll believe that there living in a state of peace but on the outside their bodies are actually dying. Obito is actually doing more harm than good.
 
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