Jinton Duo vs The Uchiha Bro's

[DemonicAvenger]

Conditions:

All are fully rested and ready for battle. Muu and Itachi are Edo Tensei but the regenration factor is negated for this battle.

Onoki and Sasuke are as they are stated above.

Intel:

Both of them have extensive knowledge of the others abilities and battle tactics

Location:

Konoha. They start atop the Hokage mansion on opposite ends of the roof. They are free to move about the village. All Ninja and Civilians have been evacuated and none of them cares about the state that becomes the village from the battle.

Restrictions:

Itachi isn't in possesion of the crow containing Shisui's eye

Who wins? Give explanation and details​

 

[Kages]

Jinton Duo win.

Onoki> Sasuke
Mu> Itachi

 

[GiantShuriken]

genjutsu followed by kunai to the throat. uchihas win.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Jinton Duo win.

Onoki> Sasuke
Mu> Itachi

Hardly

 

[pateuvasiliu]

As far as I know, genjutsu doesn't work on Edos. They are under a constant chakra shift due to being kept alive by a jutsu.

Muu has unlimited chakra which theoretically means he could make a Jinton the size of the whole battlefield.

Muu can also go invisible and Onoki can fly, which the Uchiha bros can't.

Jinton duo win.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

As far as I know, genjutsu doesn't work on Edos. They are under a constant chakra shift due to being kept alive by a jutsu.

Muu has unlimited chakra which theoretically means he could make a Jinton the size of the whole battlefield.

Muu can also go invisible and Onoki can fly, which the Uchiha bros can't.

Jinton duo win.

I've explained in my Naruto > Edo Madara thread how Edo's Chakra works. Edo have infinte "Resources" to make Chakra, They dont have infinte amount of chakra running through there sytems at all times or Preta Path wouldn't work (yet Nagato used it). Also, Since Edo Chakra circulatory system is the same as when they're alive (Muu is the one that helped me solve this ironicaly) they can't expend more chakra at one time then when they were alive. Meaning the biggest Jinton that Muu could make while he was alive is the biggest Jinton he could make while he is an Edo.

IMO Uchiha Bro's have this.

Muu can't hide from their Sharingan since even though Mujin completely erase's his chakra. Sharingan can still see ripples in the air and irregularities in the ground as they walk. Amaterasu is a death sentance for either of them and neither of them can dodge it either. This is backed by the fact that Jinton has a charge time that Amaterasu can take charge of. Itachi is also know for having the fastest unehnaced Jutsu speed in the manga, he could easily beat Muu or Onoki to the ball in a Ninjutsu battle. The Amaterasu argument also applies for Sasuke, which is even more deadly in his case since he has the addition of Enton. Muu and Onoki know not to look in either's eyes in this thread, but in a close range battle its almost decided that they would be caught by Genjutsu.

Your also forgetting that Sasuke can fly with Kuchiyose: Taka

 

[OnPoint]

With full knowledge, i'd probably go with the Uchiha bros since Amaterasu has a shorter prep time than Jinton and the two of them should be more than capable of catching the Tsuchikages off guard. To be honest, it just depends on how well/quickly they react to Mū‎‎ becoming visible (in order to attack), since I doubt they can see a man with neither form nor chakra [

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[KidGamer65]

As far as I know, genjutsu doesn't work on Edos. They are under a constant chakra shift due to being kept alive by a jutsu.

Muu has unlimited chakra which theoretically means he could make a Jinton the size of the whole battlefield.

Muu can also go invisible and Onoki can fly, which the Uchiha bros can't.

Jinton duo win.

Bold is obviously wrong. Edo Itachi was caught in Genjutsu.

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Muu has unlimited chakra, not infinite chakra. His chakra pool never got larger it simply does not run out.

So what if Onoki can fly? Doesn't mean much when Sasuke can spam Enton Magatama at him.

Doesn't Mu need to become visible to use Jinton? If so, when he becomes visible, if he manages to hit one Uchiha with Jinton, the other hits him with Amaterasu.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Uchiha Bro's

 

[Omnipotent]

The Uchiha brothers.

Muu would be a real problem, though.

 

[Negative Knight]

I'm going with the Jinton users, high-diff.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

That's a sound jutsu. It paralyses the body because the ears act as an equilibrium center for the body.

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The vestibular system, which contributes to balance in most mammals and to the sense of spatial orientation, is the sensory system that provides the leading contribution about movement and sense of balance.

also, it's not a genjutsu, it's a

Classification Ninjutsu, Senjutsu

So no. Edos have not been shown to be genjutsu'd yet.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

That's a sound jutsu. It paralyses the body because the ears act as an equilibrium center for the body.

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The vestibular system, which contributes to balance in most mammals and to the sense of spatial orientation, is the sensory system that provides the leading contribution about movement and sense of balance.

also, it's not a genjutsu, it's a



So no. Edos have not been shown to be genjutsu'd yet.

Itachi is under Kotoamatsukami. A Genjutsu.

Itachi and Sasuke called it a Genjutsu, and it stems from Tayuya's abilities. Genjutsus by nature. No idea where you got that from.

 

[KidGamer65]

That's a sound jutsu. It paralyses the body because the ears act as an equilibrium center for the body.

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The vestibular system, which contributes to balance in most mammals and to the sense of spatial orientation, is the sensory system that provides the leading contribution about movement and sense of balance.

also, it's not a genjutsu, it's a



So no. Edos have not been shown to be genjutsu'd yet.

Its a Sound Genjutsu A Genjutsu that paralyzes the opponent via Sound Waves instead of eye contact like the Sharingan.

Also that DB description is obviously wrong as they classify all Genjutsu as Ninjutsu instead of separating them.

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Tsukuyomi's entry lists it as a Ninjutsu, but we all know Tsukuyomi is a Genjutsu.

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That is the ability Kabuto used via Tayuya's DNA. Manga has classified it many times as a Genjutsu.

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Sasuke also mentions that it is a Genjutsu in the bottom right panel.

So yes, Edos have been Genjutsu'd.

 

[Bogard]

Jinton users would win mid difficulty

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Thing is, a loud sound in your ears would paralyse you anyway. It's so because the jutsu emits a sonic blast. It doesn't affect the mind like a genjutsu does, it affects the body.

Do you have a direct source for it being classified as genjutsu?

also they don't classify all genjutsu as ninjutsu.

Classification Kekkei Genkai, Genjutsu, Dōjutsu

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[KidGamer65]

Thing is, a loud sound in your ears would paralyse you anyway. It's so because the jutsu emits a sonic blast. It doesn't affect the mind like a genjutsu does, it affects the body.

Tayuya's Genjutsu isn't a loud sound, so no it won't paralyze them because of the Sound Waves. It paralyzes them because of the Genjutsu aspect of it.

@bold: Did you even look at the scans in my post? Obviously not.

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Where do you think that is happening? Obviously in Shikamaru's mind.

Manga has already confirmed its a Genjutsu.

 

[Cpt Long Schlong]

Thing is, a loud sound in your ears would paralyse you anyway. It's so because the jutsu emits a sonic blast. It doesn't affect the mind like a genjutsu does, it affects the body.

Do you have a direct source for it being classified as genjutsu?

also they don't classify all genjutsu as ninjutsu.

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Everything I've seen you say and the things you are saying now are unsupported assumptions. Itachi is under a genjutsu (KA) and sound genjutsu paralyzed the bros.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Thing is, a loud sound in your ears would paralyse you anyway. It's so because the jutsu emits a sonic blast. It doesn't affect the mind like a genjutsu does, it affects the body.

Do you have a direct source for it being classified as genjutsu?

also they don't classify all genjutsu as ninjutsu.

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The sound caused Itachi and Sasuke to register an illusion of being bound.

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

Edo Itachi completely changes the game. Especially since he's fighting to kill/seal instead of trying to put 'em under a genjutsu like his intent against Kabuto.