Minato could be ruined

[staticdash22]

I agree and disagree.

I agree with Itachi and every other Uchiha using Susanoo even to block a kunai (Sasuke vs Danzo, before you start hating me). I disagree with Minato's reputation being ruined for possessing Kyuubi chakra or as you say "inherited power" because:

1) He did not inherit it, nor stole it, nor was it given to him. He sealed it using own skills.
2) Under rating him for having an "external power" apart from "his own" would be the same as saying that it's Kyuubi the strong one, not Naruto, an argument which I hate as much as Uchiha Fanboys. If it's inside his body and if it's under his control, it's his. No other way to look at it. That would be the same in the case Minato had a "Second Kyuubi" of sorts.

Also, it would be interesting to see something different from him, because that would probably help shut some fanboys up.

I disagree 10,000,000 %. If you were not born immediately with it, then it is not yours. Same with naruto, sasuke, or any other person. I view it as a plot device. Minato having kyubi chakra means he is a victim of circumstance and situation not by divine design. Divine Design would be nagato being born with the rinnegan, hyuga being born with byakugan in their genes, and so on.

 

[medal32]

Ye he is pretty unique

 

[L Lawliet]

I disagree 10,000,000 %. If you were not born immediately with it, then it is not yours. Same with naruto, sasuke, or any other person. I view it as a plot device. Minato having kyubi chakra means he is a victim of circumstance and situation not by divine design. Divine Design would be nagato being born with the rinnegan, hyuga being born with byakugan in their genes, and so on.

That has a valid point on its own, but then are you implying that Naruto deserves to lose credit because of having an "outer power"? Taking into account that he didn't choose to have it and received it as soon as he was born.

 

[Blaze Release]

Where do people get this idea that minato has the yin chakra in himself.
How can such a watered down manga me rather simple to digest by some yet hard to digest by others. Saying minato has the yin half in himself, is like saying Hiruzen sealed Hashirama/Tobirama's soul in himself. The yin chakra, like the former hokage's soul were sealed in the death god's stomach using the caster as a medium.

Also minato belongs in the same category as kakashi, danzo, Ao, etc.
People who have gotten stronger one way or another using the techniques/abilities of the descendants of rikuodu

 

[L Lawliet]

Where do people get this idea that minato has the yin chakra in himself.
How can such a watered down manga me rather simple to digest by some yet hard to digest by others. Saying minato has the yin half in himself, is like saying Hiruzen sealed Hashirama/Tobirama's soul in himself. The yin chakra, like the former hokage's soul were sealed in the death god's stomach using the caster as a medium.

Also minato belongs in the same category as kakashi, danzo, Ao, etc.
People who have gotten stronger one way or another using the techniques/abilities of the descendants of rikuodu

Thank you!

 

[Baka Sennin]

Where do people get this idea that minato has the yin chakra in himself.
How can such a watered down manga me rather simple to digest by some yet hard to digest by others. Saying minato has the yin half in himself, is like saying Hiruzen sealed Hashirama/Tobirama's soul in himself. The yin chakra, like the former hokage's soul were sealed in the death god's stomach using the caster as a medium.

Also minato belongs in the same category as kakashi, danzo, Ao, etc.
People who have gotten stronger one way or another using the techniques/abilities of the descendants of rikuodu

actually, kakashi, danzou etc are much more similar to the uchiha and senju. either they inherited the stuff that makes them good directly, or they took it. minato had to learn, develop and master the skillset he chose, not the one that was given to him.

 

[staticdash22]

Where do people get this idea that minato has the yin chakra in himself.
How can such a watered down manga me rather simple to digest by some yet hard to digest by others. Saying minato has the yin half in himself, is like saying Hiruzen sealed Hashirama/Tobirama's soul in himself. The yin chakra, like the former hokage's soul were sealed in the death god's stomach using the caster as a medium.

Also minato belongs in the same category as kakashi, danzo, Ao, etc.
People who have gotten stronger one way or another using the techniques/abilities of the descendants of rikuodu

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Hmmm...Yeah I think part of the Nine Tails was sealed into Minato and his soul was sealed into the Death God's stomach. Minato himself said that the chakra was "heavy". He could feel it's weight. Minato was sealed along with the hokages so bringing him back would bring out kurama's other chakr. If kurama's chakra was sealed into the reaper, then we would have seen six soul-like things coming out of the reaper death god's stomach. 4 Hokages, 1 soul representing Oro's arms, and another would have been Kurama's Yin half. But that wasn't the case, was it? Nope.

 

[Blaze Release]

actually, kakashi, danzou etc are much more similar to the uchiha and senju. either they inherited the stuff that makes them good directly, or they took it. minato had to learn, develop and master the skillset he chose, not the one that was given to him.

Descendants im not just talking uchiha/senju but uzumaki and hyuuga.
Whilst i get what you are saying, that doesn't change my original post. Gotten stronger due to techniques from descendants of rikudou.

Edit: OP, the yin part again is sealed in the shiki fujin, you have nothing to worry about

 

[L Lawliet]

Descendants im not just talking uchiha/senju but uzumaki and hyuuga.
Whilst i get what you are saying, that doesn't change my original post. Gotten stronger due to techniques from descendants of rikudou

It's also true that nothing the current generations have comes from just their own talent. Things are inherited some way or another. It's not like they would have been ninjas anyway even if the Sage hadn't existed.

 

[shelke]

Minato has been largely irrelevant to me in terms of plot progression anyway. His Yellow Flash moniker is the only reason he became famous and that is because of his S/T Jutsus. If Kishimoto cannot bring more depth to his character other than a common fool who gave into a would-be prophecy, then he never should have been created.

I understand she fills in the shonen genre cliches, but when you have so many of them, the novelty wears thin, very fast. Just my humble opinion, henceforth it's his fluke, paper thin characterization I'm worried about rather than the stolen yin chakra. Besides, is there any room for this manga to plummet any lower? Naruto is already handing out free Kurama chakra - doesn't make any sense at all - so ...surprise me with more nonsense, Sir Kishimoto.

 

[Snape Uchiha]

I disagree 10,000,000 %. If you were not born immediately with it, then it is not yours. Same with naruto, sasuke, or any other person. I view it as a plot device. Minato having kyubi chakra means he is a victim of circumstance and situation not by divine design. Divine Design would be nagato being born with the rinnegan, hyuga being born with byakugan in their genes, and so on.

Nagato wasn't born with the Rinnegan, he was given them by Madara.

 

[staticdash22]

Descendants im not just talking uchiha/senju but uzumaki and hyuuga.
Whilst i get what you are saying, that doesn't change my original post. Gotten stronger due to techniques from descendants of rikudou

There's a difference between having a birthright to a power, and people like Danzo, Ao, or ect. Ao was not born with that Byakugan eye, he took it and gave himself a powerup. It's not his. He is a victim of circumstance, not by Divine Design. Which is why non uchiha cannot use the sharingan like uchiha would, because it's not built into their blood. Their bodies are equipped to handle sharingan, not an outsider.

 

[staticdash22]

Nagato wasn't born with the Rinnegan, he was given them by Madara.

Sorry, I know man. I meant to say "if nagato was born with rinnegan". My bad.

 

[JDuzumaki92]

I hope minato does not use kurama's chakra.That's Naruto's thing. It may not even be sealed inside of him and it could be returning to Naruto.

 

[Blaze Release]

It's also true that nothing the current generations have comes from just their own talent. Things are inherited some way or another. It's not like they would have been ninjas anyway even if the Sage hadn't existed.

Huh? Im not sure where you are diverting tbh.
Anyway others like yamato and possibly hiruzen belong in this section aswell. Heck even kabuto

There's a difference between having a birthright to a power, and people like Danzo, Ao, or ect. Ao was not born with that Byakugan eye, he took it and gave himself a powerup. It's not his. He is a victim of circumstance, not by Divine Design. Which is why non uchiha cannot use the sharingan like uchiha would, because it's not built into their blood. Their bodies are equipped to handle sharingan, not an outsider.

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[Baka Sennin]

Descendants im not just talking uchiha/senju but uzumaki and hyuuga.
Whilst i get what you are saying, that doesn't change my original post. Gotten stronger due to techniques from descendants of rikudou.

Edit: OP, the yin part again is sealed in the shiki fujin, you have nothing to worry about

that is somewhat true, but you could argue that back to the beginning since the sage invented ninjutsu. everything is a derivative of the sage's powers- you can have diluted forms like the dojutsu, his physical strength/healing/mokuton, or fuinjutsu.

at any rate, fuinjutsu from those three abilities is the one which is not inherited and can't be taken, it can only be learned and it's damn hard to do so from what orochimaru implied with kakashi. plus minato made his own spin on fuinjutsu.

at any rate, having a tool and using it well are two different things entirely. take danzou for instance, his mastery of both mokuton and the sharingan was miserable.

 

[Itachi Edo]

I'd hate to see him become a minature stamina freak like Itachi became. Part of why I loved Itachi, Kakashi, and Minato was because they used their intellegence to put an end to battles quickly. I hate how everything in Naruto has slowly become a minautre tribute to Dragonball Z where it's all about who is stronger and the battles are so far fetched it's crazy.

 

[ThomasJeffersonwasasadist]

I'd prefer to see his natural affinity, jutsu other than rasengan like kagebushin and or some other sealing jutsu.