(DrProof) Orochimaru's Body Transfer Jutsu Shortened.

[FearxDeath]

Dont get me wrong man I like the thread, but to me it seems like re-itteration of common knowledge.

- We already know that Hashirama spells reduce the limitations of MS time restrictive abilities as Obito spams his MS all the time, now it is still a little shaky to presume this works with jutsu outside of the Sharingan abilities but it seems plausible.

- We know that Orochimaru's Body Transfer jutsu as he didnt have control of Sasuke's body, rather after being absorbed by Sasuke he hid within his Cursed Mark hoping to regain power over time so that he could try again to take his body. If the jutsu was never completed then it seems obvious that there would be no time limit. Or you can even argue that since Sasuke highjacked the jutsu he was the one the limitation was placed under rather than Orochimaru.

- Thus he is able to Body Transfer over to Zetsu which isnt a hindrance since like you said, while in zetsu the limitation of his Body Transfer Jutsu is shortened allowing him to Body Transfer to Sasuke whenever he wants.

All in all it was a good read, you managed to shed light on a few areas I wasnt too sure about. As to be expected from Dr.Proof.

One thing you are not considering is that Kabuto having knowledge of the Zetsu's may have found a way to incorparate Hashirama's Cells into himself somehow, which was transfered over to Orochimaru upon him absorbing his chakra, which further reduced the limitation on Oro's Body Transfer... There are alot of ways to attack the issue, your seems the most probable.

 

[Howdidthesenjudie]

If this is true, wouldn't he have to keep switching bodies with zetsu to keep the body switching cool down so low? So it's only a one time thing until he switches to a new non-zetsu body?

 

[DrProof]

Dont get me wrong man I like the thread, but to me it seems like re-itteration of common knowledge.

- We already know that Hashirama spells reduce the limitations of MS time restrictive abilities as Obito spams his MS all the time, now it is still a little shaky to presume this works with jutsu outside of the Sharingan abilities but it seems plausible.

- We know that Orochimaru's Body Transfer jutsu as he didnt have control of Sasuke's body, rather after being absorbed by Sasuke he hid within his Cursed Mark hoping to regain power over time so that he could try again to take his body. If the jutsu was never completed then it seems obvious that there would be no time limit. Or you can even argue that since Sasuke highjacked the jutsu he was the one the limitation was placed under rather than Orochimaru.

- Thus he is able to Body Transfer over to Zetsu which isnt a hindrance since like you said, while in zetsu the limitation of his Body Transfer Jutsu is shortened allowing him to Body Transfer to Sasuke whenever he wants.

All in all it was a good read, you managed to shed light on a few areas I wasnt too sure about. As to be expected from Dr.Proof.

One thing you are not considering is that Kabuto having knowledge of the Zetsu's may have found a way to incorparate Hashirama's Cells into himself somehow, which was transfered over to Orochimaru upon him absorbing his chakra, which further reduced the limitation on Oro's Body Transfer... There are alot of ways to attack the issue, your seems the most probable.

Plausible. We basically agree on my theory.

 

[FearxDeath]

If this is true, wouldn't he have to keep switching bodies with zetsu to keep the body switching cool down so low? So it's only a one time thing until he switches to a new non-zetsu body?

No, As long as he remains in the zetsu body all time limitation cooldowns will be low, once he transfers to sasuek or someone else then ofcourse the limitation will be high again. But at that point he is already in a body that he probably plans on staying in for more than 3 years so this isnt a problem.

But if you ask me, why would he want to change bodies? Senju blood line? Wood Release? Why in the world would he give that up, forget about taking Sasuke's body, he should just kill him and take his eyes, get his own Rinnegan and rule the world.

 

[DrProof]

No, As long as he remains in the zetsu body all time limitation cooldowns will be low, once he transfers to sasuek or someone else then ofcourse the limitation will be high again. But at that point he is already in a body that he probably plans on staying in for more than 3 years so this isnt a problem.

But if you ask me, why would he want to change bodies? Senju blood line? Wood Release? Why in the world would he give that up, forget about taking Sasuke's body, he should just kill him and take his eyes, get his own Rinnegan and rule the world.

You got to the comment before I did. :| nice job doing that though.

 

[Howdidthesenjudie]

No, As long as he remains in the zetsu body all time limitation cooldowns will be low, once he transfers to sasuek or someone else then ofcourse the limitation will be high again. But at that point he is already in a body that he probably plans on staying in for more than 3 years so this isnt a problem.

But if you ask me, why would he want to change bodies? Senju blood line? Wood Release? Why in the world would he give that up, forget about taking Sasuke's body, he should just kill him and take his eyes, get his own Rinnegan and rule the world.

Sorry if that was unclear, but that's exactly what I was trying to say. His cool down would be the same once he leaves the zetsu body.
I meant that in order to keep the cool down after he switches from zetsu, he would need to switch into another zetsu

 

[Waltz]

Can you add anything to the portion of this thread? I will add you to the "addition" part as well.

Also, PuppyDogGeneral, mind if I add your post to the "addition" part of this thread?

Sure, no prob.

 

[DrProof]

Sure, no prob.

Thanks bud.

 

[startup97]

Dr Proof is so awesome!!!!!

 

[xIGOLD FlAsHIx]

Premise


My theory on this subject is that Orochimaru's Body Transfer Technique was shortened in the restrictions of it's 3 year limitations. Why exactly? Senju DNA. Indeed, that is the cause as Senju DNA shortens time limitations on techniques that require a restriction of waiting (Danzo using Kotoamatsukami twice within a short period of time in which it usually takes a decade to prepare itself again

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). But how exactly did Orochimaru obtain Hashirama's DNA cells, and why is his Body Transfer Jutsu shortened? Here's a couple of theories..

• Hashirama Senju's DNA seem to shorten the users time restrictions drastically (seen with Danzo's Kotoamatsukami situation).
• Orochimaru had obtained Hashirama's DNA when he had used his Body Transfer Jutsu on 1 of the 6 Zetsu clones.
• Danzo's Kotoamatsukami technique's time restriction was shortened from a Decade (10 years) to most likely within a single day or less, Orochimaru's Body Transfer Jutsu would reasonably be around that range as well.
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• Orochimaru's Body Transferring Jutsu was never SUCCESSFUL when attempted on Sasuke, Sasuke had absorbed Orochimaru not the other way around; this implies Orochimaru could have still used the technique as it wasn't completed, and he hadn't claimed his new body.

Orochimaru had acquired Hashirama's DNA because he had Body Transferred into 1 of the 6 Zetsu Clones (Orochimaru had performed this act when he had cut his own stomach along with the Shinigami's forcing him to retrieve a new body

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) in which the Zetsu were placed on Sasuke to keep information about his whereabouts and/or what his motives were at the time.

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You may be wondering as to how Orochimaru had performed the Body Transfer Technique on the Zetsu when he had used it specifically on Sasuke, however it wasn't successful, giving me the impression that since the Body Transferring Jutsu wasn't completed, but was turned against Orochimaru himself Sasuke was using the technique directly instead of Orochimaru meaning that Orochimaru had no control over the situation. Basically I'm implying that Orochimaru never got the duration restrictions due to Sasuke hijacking the jutsu.

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Conclusion

• Orochimaru's Body Transferring Jutsu was shortened from a 3 year restriction to an (x) amount of hours/days (probably around the same duration to that of Danzo's Kotoamatsukami).
• Since Orochimaru possess Hashirama's DNA this factor directly complements the said conclusion above.
• Orochimaru had Body Transferred into 1 of the 6 Zetsu Clones planted on Sasuke's body to keep notes on his whereabouts/motives.
• Orochimaru's Body Transferring Technique 3 year time restriction was never activated to due Sasuke hijacking the jutsu entirely, and overpowering Orochimaru.

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Tell me if I'm not the first to point this out but...

I don't remember Danzo ever using Koto Amatsukami???


Are you sure you're not referring to Izanagi?

If you are then isn't this thread kinda pointless?


I never once saw Danzo even activate MS :S

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Tell me if I'm not the first to point this out but...

I don't remember Danzo ever using Koto Amatsukami???


Are you sure you're not referring to Izanagi?

If you are then isn't this thread kinda pointless?


I never once saw Danzo even activate MS :S

yeah he never used it

 

[xIGOLD FlAsHIx]

yeah he never used it

So using that as a source of evidence kinda makes this thread redundant, right??

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Hashirama's DNA = Deus ex machina of Narutoverse.

 

[Sostrange89]

I only read the first page but if I find this theory on another page I'll delete this post, but I do believe you are wrong in your opinion. It is plausible though I will admit that if Orochimaru is able to transfer bodies more rapidly now it most likely will due to the fact that his new host body has obtained Senju dna. I think that Danzo's kotoamatsakumi was only shortened because it was an Uchiha/Sharningan technique. Now we know that the uchiha and Senju originate from the same family, their descendants of the Rikudo Sennin. Now his DNA would affect his other bloodline's technique.
So I'm saying Senju DNA can only help those techniques that are from the Rikudo's bloodline.

But good theory never the less , but I guess that's expected from Dr proof

 

[blackstar9]

Danzo never used k.a. after the summit if I'm not mistaking

 

[Sostrange89]

No he did not but right before Sasuke pierced him with his Rikiri he about to use us K.A. on Tobi . Sadly we did mot get to see an Obito vs Sasuke battle yet.

 

[Sage mode Tobi]

Very nice....

 

[xIGOLD FlAsHIx]

No he did not but right before Sasuke pierced him with his Rikiri he about to use us K.A. on Tobi . Sadly we did mot get to see an Obito vs Sasuke battle yet.

Why would he use Koto Amatsukami on Sasuke? What would he plan on achieving?

In my personal opinion, I don't believe Danzo had ever awakened the Mangekyo Sharingan.

I'm pretty sure that if he had awakened it that he would have at last used a better defensive skill set other than Mokuton.

Danzo was at a near complete disadvantage, if it weren't for Izanagi, which I might point out is and Uchiha Forbidden Tech and not only limited to MS. (Forgive me if I'm wrong.)

Sasuke could have burnt Danzo to a crisp the moment he used DFE by using Amaterasu on the giant tree attached to his arm...

 

[Knights Saotome]

i think only uhchia tech can get powered up/ boosted. ex shorter cooldowns. i dont think it would have any affect on oro's body transfer because its not a uhchia tech nor is he uhchia. in all likely hood his body rejects senju dna or else he would have implated himself with some way before now, like when he made yamato. also the 3 years wait to use the body transfer was never a problem except for once with sasuke, which was for the better seeing as sasuke hadnt matured enough to be a proper host for oro. thumps up anyway, good logic, as i tend to see from your threads.
EDIT: upon scrolling upward i see "danzo never used Koto Amatsukami, but he clearly did during the five kage summit, and where he was named to be the 6th hokage, also according to the timeline danzo had suisui's eye before the uhchia massacre so i wouldnt doubt if he used it then to, on say the elder or even the 3rd.

 

[ziggyZ]

Oath.