Sasuke could take control of the Hokage!!!

[The God of Wind]

No, Sasuke's Genjutsu is not enough to control them, his Genjutsu has already been shown to pale in comparison to Itachi's Genjutsu, his Genjutsu hasn't even been shown to be strong enough to insinuate he could control all 4 of them with a simple Genjutsu and why mention Obito here? His Genjutsu has already been shown to trump Sasuke's Genjutsu by a longshot so that isn't a good comparison.

Sasuke's EMS genjutsu is just as strong as Tsukuyomi, not in altering time and space, but in controlling the target! Sasuke was able to free Itachi from Kabuto's sound Genjutsu with his EMS! Just like Itachi did to Sasuke with Tsukuyomi! So there hah!

 

[BossManKakashi]

With his Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan Genjutsu, Sasuke could put the Four Hokage under his control and overwrite Orochimaru's orders!

I know, it's been done only with Shisui's Koto Amatsukami before, but that was performed on another MS Sharingan user! Itachi!

On a regular person without a Sharingan, an EMS genjutsu would work without fail!

That's how Itachi made Kabuto undo the Edo Tensei, that's how Obito puts people under his control like he did with Yagura, Konan and Danzo's dogs.

The Mangekyou Sharingan Genjutsu that controls the Kyuubi is also capable of controlling Edo's.

What do you think?

im pretty sure oro wont have a chance to even give them orders, sasuke wont let it get that far

 

[KidGamer65]

Sasuke's EMS genjutsu is just as strong as Tsukuyomi, not in altering time and space, but in controlling the target! Sasuke was able to free Itachi from Kabuto's sound Genjutsu with his EMS! Just like Itachi did to Sasuke with Tsukuyomi! So there hah!

Go read my post again, I added some stuff.

Where did you get this ridiculous assumption from? Sasuke freeing Itachi from the Sound Genjutsu is simply him disrupting Itachi's chakra via Sharingan using the partner method, nothing special and it doesn't even begin to explain why you believe the bolded.

 

[sulanis]

No, just no. If it were that easy Itachi would have done it to Nagato. Plus how would Sasuke even know he could do it if he could. He does not have strong enough genjutsu to do that, as even Itachi needed Shisui's genjutsu.

I completely agree with you 100%

Plus not to mention he is not dealing with the average fodder of a village he would be trying to take over the strongest men in Konoha. Who were all considered the strongest among there day (except tobirama, we don't know much about him)

 

[The God of Wind]

Yes, yes, though Izanami assisted him in this in the first place, and regardless, Sasuke's Tsukuyomi is nowhere near Itachi's level. And that situation is completely incomparable. There's a difference in controlling one individual person and controlling four of them who are under the influence of someone else's control.

It's not possible. Deal with it.

You're speaking as if you already know this for a fact. I think you're forgetting that Sasuke's EMS genjutsu is on par with Itachi's Tsukuyomi in controlling someone's mind! He was able to free Itachi from the sound genjutsu with it, just like Itachi did the same to him with Tsukuyomi! What do you have to say now?

 

[The God of Wind]

Go read my post again, I added some stuff.

Where did you get this ridiculous assumption from? Sasuke freeing Itachi from the Sound Genjutsu is simply him disrupting Itachi's chakra via Sharingan using the partner method, nothing special and it doesn't even begin to explain why you believe the bolded.

I'm sorry but where are you getting that info from? Chakra disruption? Partner system?! Any more assumptions?

How do you know Sasuke didn't override the sound Genjutsu's control over him? Oh that's right you don't! You can only spew useless assumptions.

 

[Multiply]

Itachi wouldn't want to control other Edo's. He doesn't operate that way. He obviously thought it was better to put Nagato away with Totsuka and then go to the source and end the jutsu entirely! Which is what he did....

Yes but even a mediocre strategist would have seen how easy it would have been for Nagato to subdue Kabuto and release the Edo Tensei. Itachi being obviously one of the most intelligent in the NV, clearly knew he would not be able to do it with even his strongest genjutsu. As his does not even compare to Shisui's.

 

[Multiply]

And you're comparing an EMS genjutsu to Itachi's Tsukuyomi relinquishing hold of Kabuto's Edo Tensei in a situation where Kabuto was completely under the influence of Izanami and unable to defend himself.

Seems legit.

This LOL.

 

[Champ]

Only time will tell if Sasuke has become more proficient in Genjutsu, but he has never been an expert in Genjutsu that's what Itachi specialize in. Sasuke is more destructive, tho him controlling four people at once is farfetched.

 

[The God of Wind]

Yes but even a mediocre strategist would have seen how easy it would have been for Nagato to subdue Kabuto and release the Edo Tensei. Itachi being obviously one of the most intelligent in the NV, clearly knew he would not be able to do it with even his strongest genjutsu. As his does not even compare to Shisui's.

Itachi wouldn't use someone like that PERIOD! He relies on is own power! Not to mention Nagato was on the verge of destroying them all, he was too strong to take a chance like that, so Itachi put him away as quick as possible! And it is also illogical to think that an eye genjutsu would work on the Rinnegan.

 

[B00m]

I think this could be legit, a lot of question come to mind though.

-Sasuke was there when Itachi used Izanami, so does he know it?
-Will he be willing to sacrifice a eye? Or is that a unseen power of EMS, no eye strain regardless? Either way it would be a fair trade off.
-Could EMS itself be enough to do what is needed? We have hardly seen EMS.
-Sasuke reversed one of Oro's jutsus before just with a normal sharingan, and Oro could never lay a hand Itachi either.

Always fear the sharingan, especially EMS, which we have hardly seen.

Edit: Would be cool for Naruto to take on all the Hokage's after the Jubi, he did say he was going to be the best of the them. And because of that, Sasuke would finally respect him and need to see him as his equal. Cheesy, I know.

 

[KidGamer65]

I'm sorry but where are you getting that info from? Chakra disruption? Partner system?! Any more assumptions?

How do you know Sasuke didn't override the sound Genjutsu's control over him? Oh that's right you don't! You can only spew useless assumptions.

:sy: This crap you are spouting makes no sense at all. Sasuke wasn't taking control of Itachi using his Genjutsu, he was disrupting his chakra, and the Sound Genjutsu wasn't controlling him so there was no control to override. Anyone with half a brain would know this.

Genjutsu works by inserting the users chakra into the opponent to manipulate their chakra flow. Again, anyone with half a brain would know this. When Sasuke and Itachi used Genjutsu on each other they inserted their chakra into the other to disrupt their chakra flows and break the Genjutsu.

Not to mention Kabuto said only one Genjutsu is strong enough to overwrite ET's control. Combine that with the fact Sasuke's Genjutsu is NOWHERE near master level, you come to the obvious conclusion that Sasuke isn't controlling the 4 Edo Hokage. Just give it up, everyone except you knows that this BS is impossible.

Any more BS you would like to spout?

 

[Minator93]

Pff..

Hope Sasuke manages not to piss off any of the Edo Hokages or he'll die because as of now any of Edo Hokage >>> EMS Sasuke U_U

 

[BossManKakashi]

And you're comparing an EMS genjutsu to Itachi's Tsukuyomi relinquishing hold of Kabuto's Edo Tensei in a situation where Kabuto was completely under the influence of Izanami and unable to defend himself.

Seems legit.

um the genjutsu itself didnt cancel the technique he forced kabuto to make the hand seals to release it.

 

[The God of Wind]

And you're comparing an EMS genjutsu to Itachi's Tsukuyomi relinquishing hold of Kabuto's Edo Tensei in a situation where Kabuto was completely under the influence of Izanami and unable to defend himself.

Seems legit.

Don't get you're point from this. Kabuto was able to defy their Genjutsu at first because his eyes were covered. Otherwise things would have gone a lot quicker!

 

[The God of Wind]

:sy: This crap you are spouting makes no sense at all. Sasuke wasn't taking control of Itachi using his Genjutsu, he was disrupting his chakra, and the Sound Genjutsu wasn't controlling him so there was no control to override. Anyone with half a brain would know this.

Genjutsu works by inserting the users chakra into the opponent to manipulate their chakra flow. Again, anyone with half a brain would know this. When Sasuke and Itachi used Genjutsu on each other they inserted their chakra into the other to disrupt their chakra flows and break the Genjutsu.

Not to mention Kabuto said only one Genjutsu is strong enough to overwrite ET's control. Combine that with the fact Sasuke's Genjutsu is NOWHERE near master level, you come to the obvious conclusion that Sasuke isn't controlling the 4 Edo Hokage. Just give it up, everyone except you knows that this BS is impossible.

Any more BS you would like to spout?

The sound genjutsu had immobilised them, so it was a form of control!

And how do you magically insert your chakra into someone's mind?! The Sharingan is capable of controlling the chakra in the mind by just looking into the target's eyes! Thats how a Dōjutsu genjutsu works!

Do you even realise how much BS you just spewed?

Btw Kabuto said only one genjutsu is able to do 'this'! 'This', could literally mean a million different things!

 

[The God of Wind]

That was in the situation of making Kabuto STOP Edo Tensei. Not override his control. Again, incomparable ._.

He took control of Kabuto and made him weave the signs did he not? How do you know that genjutsu wouldn't work on an Edo?

 

[Multiply]

Itachi wouldn't use someone like that PERIOD! He relies on is own power! Not to mention Nagato was on the verge of destroying them all, he was too strong to take a chance like that, so Itachi put him away as quick as possible! And it is also illogical to think that an eye genjutsu would work on the Rinnegan.

He does not rely on his own power. Its already been proven he doesn't. He used Shisui's eye to bring Sasuke back because he kne he couldn't. He entrusted Naruto with the eye because he knew he would not have the chance. Then he even ranted to Naruto not everything could be done alone. Itachi being as intelligent as he is could have easily put him under the genjutsu. Why can't an eye genjutsu work on the rinnegan again? Please provide proof where it says that :sy:

 

[KidGamer65]

The sound genjutsu had immobilised them, so it was a form of control!

And how do you magically insert your chakra into someone's mind?! The Sharingan is capable of controlling the chakra in the mind by just looking into the target's eyes! That how a Dōjutsu genjutsu works!

Do you even realise how much BS you just spewed?

So Paralysis=Control? No one can be this retarded...please go learn what controlling via Genjutsu is. Obito controlled Yagura via Genjutsu. Did Kabuto control them with the Sound Genjutsu? Did he manipulate their thoughts or movements? No he didn't, he stopped them, completely different.

Go ask Kishi, he gave the explanation not me. Whichever explanation you want to go with...it still shows why this thread is a pile of BS, it still shows how Itachi and Sasuke broke out of the Sound Genjutsu.

"Btw Kabuto said only one genjutsu is able to do 'this'! 'This', could literally mean a million different things!"

:sy: :sy: Now you don't even know basic English?? What had just happened when Kabuto made that statement? What did KA do when it was used?? Oh yeah that's right, it broke Kabuto's control.

Humor me some more.

 

[The God of Wind]

He does not rely on his own power. Its already been proven he doesn't. He used Shisui's eye to bring Sasuke back because he kne he couldn't. He entrusted Naruto with the eye because he knew he would not have the chance. Then he even ranted to Naruto not everything could be done alone. Itachi being as intelligent as he is could have easily put him under the genjutsu. Why can't an eye genjutsu work on the rinnegan again? Please provide proof where it says that :sy:

Shisuis eye was a fail safe! In case Sasuke found out the truth! Do you understand the meaning of a FAIL SAFE?

Why don't you first give me proof of an eye genjutsu working on a Rinnegan user? Also, you also failed to respond to the fact that Nagato was highly dangerous and he had to be put away right then!