Tobirama better break out of this jutsu

markdabomb22

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jan 2, 2012
Messages
4,756
Reaction score
677
I hope kishi does not make himself look like a dumbass and have tobirama stay under control of edo tensei i mean the bastard created the jutsu and it would make little sense if the guy who created the jutsu knew less about it then madara. xd
 

Fair Warning

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Jan 18, 2013
Messages
11,453
Reaction score
922
yes we get it, there have been 20 of these threads already
 

Altaneen

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Dec 14, 2011
Messages
2,393
Reaction score
236
The question is not if Tobirama can, it's will Orochimaru allow them free control of themselves.
 

RHCP

Member
Joined
Jul 27, 2011
Messages
140
Reaction score
18
That's exactly what I was thinking. The reason why he didn't do it during the first time he was resurrected was probably because he didn't have control of himself. If I'm not mistaken, Orochimaru was controlling Tobirama. If he doesn't do it this time, then he should be able to release himself. Furthermore, we're most likely gonna see his S/T jutsu. I think him breaking out of Edo Tensei goes without saying, so the real question is: "Will he be able to release the other Hokage with him?" I hope he does, so that Naruto and Minato can fight side by side and Madara fights Hashirama, where we will see more of their first fight and most likely their past.
 

SEEDLESS

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Jul 9, 2012
Messages
545
Reaction score
44
THEY WILL BREAK FREE FROM EDO...

WHY? because, if sasuke needs data from them, orochimaru should give them their real personalities. And because of that, breaking free from the binding is a threat especially to those who are strong to control their EDO bodies just like what happened to kabuto.

Orochimaru is aware of every possible thing that may happen, as he absorbed his power from kabuto including data information.
 

markdabomb22

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jan 2, 2012
Messages
4,756
Reaction score
677
yes we get it, there have been 20 of these threads already
good you can count to twenty.......progress
The question is not if Tobirama can, it's will Orochimaru allow them free control of themselves.

He would have to let them in order to get the information.....so if tobirama is able to speak free;y which it seems he will because they summoned them for information he should be able to break edo.
 

Whiteknight

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Dec 31, 2009
Messages
843
Reaction score
194
I hope kishi does not make himself look like a dumbass and have tobirama stay under control of edo tensei i mean the bastard created the jutsu and it would make little sense if the guy who created the jutsu knew less about it then madara. xd

Madara didn't just break out of Edo Tensei. He can't just break out any time he wants. Madara could only break out of the technique because Kabuto released it AND because Madara's binding was weak enough that Madara had some free will.

Also, we don't know if Madara's Rinnegan had something to do with him breaking out of Edo Tensei control. If the rinnegan has the power to call back souls from the other realm, then it might have the power to hold a soul in this realm if it's leaving. We don't know the details.

Tobirama can only break out of the technique if he has enough free will to act by himself (unlikely Orochimaru will use the same bindings that Kabuto developed later) and if Orochimaru releases the technique. IF Tobirama has enough free will to act, and IF Orochimaru releases the jutsu and IF the Rinnegan isn't required and IF Tobirama chooses to stay alive instead of dying like he's supposed to, he'll be able to break out of it.
 

markdabomb22

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jan 2, 2012
Messages
4,756
Reaction score
677
Madara didn't just break out of Edo Tensei. He can't just break out any time he wants. Madara could only break out of the technique because Kabuto released it AND because Madara's binding was weak enough that Madara had some free will.

Also, we don't know if Madara's Rinnegan had something to do with him breaking out of Edo Tensei control. If the rinnegan has the power to call back souls from the other realm, then it might have the power to hold a soul in this realm if it's leaving. We don't know the details.

Tobirama can only break out of the technique if he has enough free will to act by himself (unlikely Orochimaru will use the same bindings that Kabuto developed later) and if Orochimaru releases the technique. IF Tobirama has enough free will to act, and IF Orochimaru releases the jutsu and IF the Rinnegan isn't required and IF Tobirama chooses to stay alive instead of dying like he's supposed to, he'll be able to break out of it.

From what i recall all he disclosed was that knowing the hand signs allows you to break it so long as you have the free will to weave hand signs. but oro summoned the hokage to obtain information from them meaning that the hokages must have consciousness to disclose the necessary info which would allow them the opportunity to break free
 

Altaneen

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Dec 14, 2011
Messages
2,393
Reaction score
236
good you can count to twenty.......progress


He would have to let them in order to get the information.....so if tobirama is able to speak free;y which it seems he will because they summoned them for information he should be able to break edo.

He could allow them to speak freely, and still not allow control of their bodies, Kabuto did with most of his Edo.
 

r00r

Banned
Joined
Jan 23, 2013
Messages
235
Reaction score
11
just because he created it doesnt mean oro and kabuto havent made it better...
 

supino

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Aug 8, 2012
Messages
915
Reaction score
47
just because he created it doesnt mean oro and kabuto havent made it better...

Well, Madara knew of the original edo tensei and he still reversed Kabuto's version, which was the latest; according to the info we have so far into the story one only needs to know the hand signs and then weave them vice versa to 'free' themselves.

Logically they should do it, just to remove any possibility of Oro taking control of their bodies. And... yes, it would be plainly idiotic if Tobirama and Hashirama can't reverse edo tensei.... just imagine the dialogue...

Madara: ....and to reverse edo tensei one only needs to weave the signs backwards. Simple as!

Hashirama: Really, like that?

Tobirama: Wait, how did you do that?


I, personally, would lose all respect for Tobirama if he doesn't... -_-
 

r00r

Banned
Joined
Jan 23, 2013
Messages
235
Reaction score
11
Well, Madara knew of the original edo tensei and he still reversed Kabuto's version, which was the latest; according to the info we have so far into the story one only needs to know the hand signs and then weave them vice versa to 'free' themselves.

Logically they should do it, just to remove any possibility of Oro taking control of their bodies. And... yes, it would be plainly idiotic if Tobirama and Hashirama can't reverse edo tensei.... just imagine the dialogue...

Madara: ....and to reverse edo tensei one only needs to weave the signs backwards. Simple as!

Hashirama: Really, like that?

Tobirama: Wait, how did you do that?


I, personally, would lose all respect for Tobirama if he doesn't... -_-

there was also the part where kabuto was in inzanami while this was all happening and he was forced to release edo tensei, madara's soul was starting to leave his body and then he regained control of it. thats the only way it has happened so far.
 

Takure

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
May 31, 2012
Messages
1,261
Reaction score
176
The question is not if Tobirama can, it's will Orochimaru allow them free control of themselves.


I think he will. Or he will cancel the technique after Sasuke has finished talking to them.
 

EPICMenma

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Dec 2, 2012
Messages
3,088
Reaction score
301
You must be registered for see images


Oro Already controlled Tobirama once at battle with Hiruzen.
 
Top