the storngest in narutoverse with out hax powers

[Sense]

if your going to define hax powers then it would be

Sharigan
Rennigan
Bijuus
Byukugan
Senju DNA
Edo Tensie or being an Edo

That sums up the hax list i guess unless your really skeptical and add in things like the curse mark however id say the most op would be muu or 3rd hokage

 

[naruto legend]

I consider FTG, 8 Gates, and Sameheda hax.
Jiraiya or Orochimaru, imo.

im talking about charaters without hax powers

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[24 12 11 to troll]

minato has ftg - haxed
jiraya has SM - haxed
gai has 8 inner gates - haxed
lee has 8 inner gates - haxed
kisame has that water shark bomb bullet thingy and chakra absorbtion - haxed

my list of people without hax
1.fodder
2.fodder
3.fodder
4.fodder
5.fodder
6.fodder
7.fodder
8.fodder
9.fodder
10.fodder

 

[Rainbow Dash]

Old Hiruzen has no kekkei genkai, special dna or any special moves

 

[naruto legend]

if your going to define hax powers then it would be

Sharigan
Rennigan
Bijuus
ByukuganSenju DNA
Edo Tensie or being an Edo

That sums up the hax list i guess unless your really skeptical and add in things like the curse mark however id say the most op would be muu or 3rd hokage

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[Sense]

minato has ftg - haxed
jiraya has SM - haxed
gai has 8 inner gates - haxed
lee has 8 inner gates - haxed
kisame has that water shark bomb bullet thingy and chakra absorbtion - haxed

my list of people without hax
1.fodder
2.fodder
3.fodder
4.fodder
5.fodder
6.fodder
7.fodder
8.fodder
9.fodder
10.fodder

you made absolutely no sense just then, how are the 8 inner gates hax? they weren't gained through random power ups from other people or being from a certain clan thats deemed over-powered, same goes with Jiraya as anyone can attempt to master sage mode however not all can. Therefore your classifying kages such as 3rd hokage, muu and even people like gara without bijuu are fodders :l you sir make no sense

 

[Tapey]

Ramen Guy

 

[Lady Luck]

Raw power

3rd raikage.

 

[startup97]

Jiraiya, Guy, and Hiruzen

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

you made absolutely no sense just then, how are the 8 inner gates hax? they weren't gained through random power ups from other people or being from a certain clan thats deemed over-powered, same goes with Jiraya as anyone can attempt to master sage mode however not all can. Therefore your classifying kages such as 3rd hokage, muu and even people like gara without bijuu are fodders :l you sir make no sense

the 8 gates are hax , think of it as SSJ1,2,3,4.... sage mode is a similar thing , it increases your power tenfold without actually using much if any of your own initially , the same goes for the gates , its basically a temporary power up , and with 8 of them availabe i think its pretty haxed , every man for himself if you dont agree ; so be it , but i did make sense , you are not open minded enough to see that.

 

[fastrthnwind]

8 gates aren't haxxed. Its power is extremely great, but it, unlike most abilities, are earned through hard work alone and that is one of hard works greatest achievements. Not only that, but there is a severe drawback where the person is injured more as they open more gates with the 8th one leading to death. It's the complete opposite of any given power-up and I'd dare say its the most powerful non-hax ability.