naruto vs nagato

[nakumaru]

Re-Read the manga :l how can you say they never fought if you read the manga you wouldnt of said that

Your saying that when at the time nagato was weak therfor it wasnt a full powered chibaku tensei so that statement would be irrelavant at this time, and what are you talkign about?? naruto cant use shinra tensei :s

Again, Naruto attemted to attack madara and failed

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What are you talking about my scans show him using rasen shuriken first and then later trying to do another rasengan,madara effortlessly blocked it, show me proof

The had a scuffle but not a real fight. Neither side used any of their high level jutsu. I never said he could, Naruto could get around Shinra.

What are you going on about?

 

[nakumaru]

@Izuna Kakashi Senju

Obviously you didn't read it very well then

 

[TheTailedSage]

The had a scuffle but not a real fight. Neither side used any of their high level jutsu. I never said he could, Naruto could get around Shinra.

What are you going on about?

Read the comment properly, Naruto was actually trying to hit madara actually but madara wasnt even trying, It wasnt no scuff Narutos intentions was to do harm, Madaras intention was not to kill naruto but to capture the kurama

 

[nakumaru]

Read the comment properly, Naruto was actually trying to hit madara actually but madara wasnt even trying, It wasnt no scuff Narutos intentions was to do harm, Madaras intention was not to kill naruto but to capture the kurama

Yet Neither used their best Jutsu?

That wasn't a fight. Naruto fought Wood Dragon and then blocked Obito and Madara. That wasn't about the end of his confrontation with Madara.

 

[the dark king]

what about soul dragons isn't that a OHK? also the gedo mazo is the body of the strongest being alive with the chakra of 7 tailed beasts and a little bit of 8 tails and nine tails chakra, naruto's clones cannot handle it. also naruto's BM has a limit while with nagato can keep fighting with out getting tired since naruto's attacks will just increase his chakra reserves. and what if nagato makes just three shadow clones (clone jutsu is a basic ninja tech which jiraya must have taught him)? nagato can dodge a tbb and even if he absorbs it (which would take not more than 5 secs) asura path can give him three faces and 6 arms and that combined with human or deva path can take care of any sage clones.

naruto simply cant beat nagato he isn't smart or strong enough as we saw when they clashed and naruto got his attacks absorbed more than once, he was going to get his soul absorbed if it wasn't for itachi. and i dont see how BM would make much difference since it would just give nagato more chakra allowing him to spam more powerful techs

nagato high diff (naruto will be the first brainless hokage)

 

[TheTailedSage]

Yet Neither used their best Jutsu?

That wasn't a fight. Naruto fought Wood Dragon and then blocked Obito and Madara. That wasn't about the end of his confrontation with Madara.

Well he was a fool not to have because madara was toying with him i would say madara was puttling less effort in to be honest

Your kind of contradicting yourself because the fact that naruto got his charkra drained by mokuton proves my point that it was a fight, He shows resistance thats what a fight is when two people react in a negative way to each other, That was no scuff and your stilll forgetting he had help to even get close to madara

 

[Unorthodox]

nagato wins sm clones are shira tensei also he doest have to grab there body and absorb them asura path missel destroy to his clones bust after kunai

 

[Naruto9001]

If he uses Taijutsu, then Nagato uses Asura Path, and Preta Path to rip him of his cloak. Gedo Mazo takes care of any clones that Naruto makes.




Naruto's Bijuu Mode doesn't make him turn into Kurama, that is simply a chakra cloak in the form of Kurama, so yes it can get absorbed, Wood Dragon already ripped Naruto of his Kurama cloak so I don't know why you are denying the possibility of itbeing absorbed.

Healthy Nagato's Shinra Tensei>>>>>>>>>Weakened Deva Path's Shinra Tensei. Those Base clones barely withstood that, Nagato's would send them flying, the only Naruto who has a slight chance of tanking S/T is Full Kurama BM Naruto, no Km or Human BM is taking that on. The clones even used a Human Chain, 1 KM Naruto or 1 BM Naruto can't replicate that effect.

Naruto can't spam clones in BM, why do you think Kurama told him that its okay to use Shadow Clones since he made him wait a lot? If he spams clones, he uses the up the BM Chakra that Kurama makes for him, and his BM only lasts for 8 minutes.

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Again, his whole cloak is made of chakra, if he tries to touch Nagato Preta Path will absorb his chakra.

Naruto can deactivate the cloak and switch to sage mode forcing Nagato to absorb nature chakra and we already saw how that turned out aganist the Preta path last time and since this is in Nagato's real body he would die if that happened. What can Nagato's Gedo Mazo do, lol it has no feats.


Naruto in BM has shown the power to let Kurama loose anytime he wants, I think that chakra form of Kurama is actually Kurama the other jins can let their bijuus loose so it wouldn't make sense if Naruto cant. That was before Naruto got this latest power boost both Orochimaru and C said that the chakra they felt was Naruto's not Kurama's and Kurama even said that Naruto was able to convert his chakra into Naruto's own to give it to the aliance. Hashirama's wood dragon has only shown to be able to absorb bijuu chakra also Naruto was able to break out of it by separating himself from Kurama while still in BM so it really dosen't matter tbh.



The point I made before was that Shinra tensei isn't spamable so Nagato is going to run out of stamina using it after his 2nd time probadly Naruto can dodge Shinra and even if he cant in BM his able to heal injuries super quickly. You also forget that the reason Nagato uses dead bodies is because his real body couldn't handle the affects of the Rinnegan so even in his prime body his stamina would be limited. KM Naruto tanked all of the attacks from the jins even with Roshi hitting him with his lava tech without much damage so I dont see why he cant withstand Nagato's shinra tensei which Naruto could easily dodge anyway. Naruto has already been spamming clones in BM, lol.

 

[KidGamer65]

Seriously? are you trolling right now?

-Senjutsu will turn Nagato to stone wether its directly from a Kage Bunshin/ Naruto or not, As long as he absorbs enough. This isn't even a requirment as Bijudama is enough to overload preta path. If you want i'll copy paste the argument from my Naruto > Edo Madara thread. Continous and Flash Bijudama **** on Nagato.

Show me how what Senjutsu he will use to make him turn to stone via Preta Path? If you are talking about through his jutsu then just stop right here as that isn't turning him to stone as his jutsu don't have enough Senjutsu chakra in it to make him turn into stone, and overload Preta Path? Since when could Preta Path be overloaded? Oh wait, it can't cause it has no limit.

-What makes you think Nagato has a chance in hell at reacting? even mentally. A's Shunshin completely Escaped a Sharingan, Naruto's Shunshin is exceptionally faster than even that. Not even Madara's Sharingan would be able to catch a glimps of that, But again, Shunshin isn't even needed. Naruto with just his base running speed in just Rikudo Mode was able to overcome the Third Raikage's Speed and Reactions. Nagato cannot keep up or even react to Naruto's Shunshin, if you say otherwise your downright trolling.

All those you listed were physical reaction, not mental reactions, which are far faster than physical reactions, when A used Shunshin Sasuke's saw him disappear, he didn't see him while he was moving, that's all Nagato needs, to see Naruto disappear and then put up the Preta Path barrier. If Naruto makes physical contact with Nagato, he uses Preta Path to rip off his cloak.

Also I'd advise you to go learn what trolling really is.

-Naruto in BM ****s on gedo Mazo with AoE attacks.

Anything short of Bijuu Dama isn't putting Gedo Mazo down, and Nagato can absorb that so...Naruto's BM clones get smacked around by Gedo Mazo. Not to mention the fact that Naruto's clones can't replicate the full Kurama cloak so any clones get ****ted on.

-Naruto's Cloak tanked the Juubi's Laser Bijudama. He can block his own, this would also blow the cave apart and allow them outside. Nagato can't absorb Bijudama.

Still making incorrect assumptions, Preta Path has no limit. You didn't even show any kind of proof that he can absorb Bijuu Dama.

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"An endless whirlpool that sucks away every jutsu." "...and the power is sucked away as if into a bottomless swamp."

Your explanation in the your Naruto>Edo Madara thread would be correct if Preta Path absorbed the chakra into your system, but it doesn't. Preta Path is a type of sealing jutsu that takes all the chakra absorbed and seals it, then disperses it. Or Nagato can choose to keep it as we saw vs. Bee and Naruto.

RM Naruto can beat a Healthy Nagato as long GM doesn't have Biju's inside of it. S-RM/BM ****s on Nagato

Yeah....no.

 

[KidGamer65]

Naruto can deactivate the cloak and switch to sage mode forcing Nagato to absorb nature chakra and we already saw how that turned out aganist the Preta path last time and since this is in Nagato's real body he would die if that happened. What can Nagato's Gedo Mazo do, lol it has no feats.

The cloak get ripped from him in like 2 seconds, so he won't have time to go in Sage Mode.
There's only one Gedo Mazo, and we've already seen some of its feats.

Naruto in BM has shown the power to let Kurama loose anytime he wants, I think that chakra form of Kurama is actually Kurama the other jins can let their bijuus loose so it wouldn't make sense if Naruto cant. That was before Naruto got this latest power boost both Orochimaru and C said that the chakra they felt was Naruto's not Kurama's and Kurama even said that Naruto was able to convert his chakra into Naruto's own to give it to the aliance. Hashirama's wood dragon has only shown to be able to absorb bijuu chakra also Naruto was able to break out of it by separating himself from Kurama while still in BM so it really dosen't matter tbh.

Naruto never separates himself from Kurama, as it is just a chakra cloak that looks like Kurama. The fact that the Kurama chakra cloak started to vanish after getting absorbed by the Wood Dragon proves that it is just pure chakra.

The point I made before was that Shinra tensei isn't spamable so Nagato is going to run out of stamina using it after his 2nd time probadly Naruto can dodge Shinra and even if he cant in BM his able to heal injuries super quickly. You also forget that the reason Nagato uses dead bodies is because his real body couldn't handle the affects of the Rinnegan so even in his prime body his stamina would be limited. KM Naruto tanked all of the attacks from the jins even with Roshi hitting him with his lava tech without much damage so I dont see why he cant withstand Nagato's shinra tensei which Naruto could easily dodge anyway. Naruto has already been spamming clones in BM, lol.

Really? Nagato run out of stamina after 2 Shinra Tensei? Go read the Pain arc and see how much he did in one fight. Naruto dodge Shinra Tensei? Lololol, Do you know what Shinra Tensei is? Its gravity, Naruto isn't dodging an invisible force that's all around him. Why are you even comparing gravity to the other V2 Jins attacks? Shinra Tensei has already been shown to be used on a higher scale than all those attacks. Naruto spamming clones? The first time he went in BM he made 1 SM Clone and 1 KM Clone. The second time he made 2-3 BM Clones. And in the last chapter he made 4 clones. That isn't spamming.

@bold: So off the mark it isn't even funny. Did you read the Hanzo fight? He uses dead bodies because he is crippled and can't walk, not because his body can't withstand that effects of the Rinnegan. Again, go read the Pain arc and you'll see everything Nagato did in one battle, and since he can absorb Naruto's attacks, chakra isn't even remotely an issue.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Show me how what Senjutsu he will use to make him turn to stone via Preta Path? If you are talking about through his jutsu then just stop right here as that isn't turning him to stone as his jutsu don't have enough Senjutsu chakra in it to make him turn into stone, and overload Preta Path? Since when could Preta Path be overloaded? Oh wait, it can't cause it has no limit.

Gonna quote someone else since they put it beutifully.
"The Databook is known for using flowery language and hyperbole to overexagerate jutsu to clearly show its functions. Similar Jutsu's have had similar hype just to be shown to not even be close to that level."

Basically your making a BS Assumption based on nothing. Preta can be overloaded. Not only that if Naruto used multiple jutsu's that involve Senjutsu Nagato will turn to stone. End of Story.

All those you listed were physical reaction, not mental reactions, which are far faster than physical reactions, when A used Shunshin Sasuke's saw him disappear, he didn't see him while he was moving, that's all Nagato needs, to see Naruto disappear and then put up the Preta Path barrier. If Naruto makes physical contact with Nagato, he uses Preta Path to rip off his cloak.

Also I'd advise you to go learn what trolling really is.

Lee in KM Blitzed Madara to the point where Madara couldn't even react mentally. You think Nagato who doesn't have Sharingan can keep up with RM or S-RM Naruto who's speed ****s on Lee's in KM?

Jeez, quit trolling.

Anything short of Bijuu Dama isn't putting Gedo Mazo down, and Nagato can absorb that so...Naruto's BM clones get smacked around by Gedo Mazo. Not to mention the fact that Naruto's clones can't replicate the full Kurama cloak so any clones get ****ted on.

Cool, Cuz Naruto can do just that.

Kage Bunshin are capable of everything the original is. Quit Trolling.

Naruto in S-RM is also capable of a Chakra enhanced punch that can knock away a mountain buster. That will **** on Gedo Mazo.

Still making incorrect assumptions, Preta Path has no limit. You didn't even show any kind of proof that he can absorb Bijuu Dama.

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"An endless whirlpool that sucks away every jutsu." "...and the power is sucked away as if into a bottomless swamp."

Your explanation in the your Naruto>Edo Madara thread would be correct if Preta Path absorbed the chakra into your system, but it doesn't. Preta Path is a type of sealing jutsu that takes all the chakra absorbed and seals it, then disperses it. Or Nagato can choose to keep it as we saw vs. Bee and Naruto.



Yeah....no.

You just backed up my thoery lol.

Then how did Nagato reguvinate from Bee's Chakra? It went through Nagato's Chakra system revitalizing him then being spun to sterilize it and get rid of it.

 

[KidGamer65]

Gonna quote someone else since they put it beutifully.
"The Databook is known for using flowery language and hyperbole to overexagerate jutsu to clearly show its functions. Similar Jutsu's have had similar hype just to be shown to not even be close to that level."

Basically your making a BS Assumption based on nothing. Preta can be overloaded. Not only that if Naruto used multiple jutsu's that involve Senjutsu Nagato will turn to stone. End of Story.

Databook>You, Databook states that it is an endless vortex, the chakra is absorbed and dissipated , it can't be overloaded if it never stores the chakra in the first place, but hey, deny facts in favor of your own assumptions.

Nope, not enough chakra

Lee in KM Blitzed Madara to the point where Madara couldn't even react mentally. You think Nagato who doesn't have Sharingan can keep up with RM or S-RM Naruto who's speed ****s on Lee's in KM?


Jeez, quit trolling.

Proof, oh wait. You have none, please stop with the BS assumptions.

Cool, Cuz Naruto can do just that.

Kage Bunshin are capable of everything the original is. Quit Trolling.

Naruto in S-RM is also capable of a Chakra enhanced punch that can knock away a mountain buster. That will **** on Gedo Mazo.

Scans of clones using the full Kurama cloak? Don't bother cause there are none, once again, stupidly making up stuff that the manga disproves. I'll be waiting for that scan, until you provide I don't want to hear any more of your BS on this matter.

You just backed up my thoery lol.

Then how did Nagato reguvinate from Bee's Chakra? It went through Nagato's Chakra system revitalizing him then being spun to sterilize it and get rid of it.

Databook hints many times that it has no limits, I'll take the DB's word over your theory.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Databook>You, Databook states that it is an endless vortex, the chakra is absorbed and dissipated , it can't be overloaded if it never stores the chakra in the first place, but hey, deny facts in favor of your own assumptions.

Nope, not enough chakra



Proof, oh wait. You have none, please stop with the BS assumptions.





Scans of clones using the full Kurama cloak? Don't bother cause there are none, once again, stupidly making up stuff that the manga disproves. I'll be waiting for that scan, until you provide I don't want to hear any more of your BS on this matter.








Databook hints many times that it has no limits, I'll take the DB's word over your theory.

Oh lordy. Another one of those people that claim that their interpretation of the Databook is almighty. You also dont understand what im getting at if you think im saying it stores the chakra. Databook never explicity states it can do what your claiming it can. It uses a hyperbole to show that Preta Absorbs a large amount of chakra.

I dont need to post a scan when Kage Bunshin have already shown to be able to do everything the original can.

Later Dude, Have fun in denial.

 

[KidGamer65]

Oh lordy. Another one of those people that claim that their interpretation of the Databook is almighty. You also dont understand what im getting at if you think im saying it stores the chakra. Databook never explicity states it can do what your claiming it can. It uses a hyperbole to show that Preta Absorbs a large amount of chakra.

I dont need to post a scan when Kage Bunshin have already shown to be able to do everything the original can.

Later Dude, Have fun in denial.

Databook hints multiple times that Preta Path has no limit. I'll take the DB over your assumption at hyperbole, when the DB doesn't use hyperbole for all its techniques..

@bold: Except for this and that's why you have no scan, cause he can't do it, simple as that. Once again. Denying facts.

The one denying facts is claiming i'm in denial? Lol, hilarious.

 

[Ten Tails Rocks]

How does naruto win against someone who has all 6 paths??!

First of all, how will Nagato guard if Naruto makes hundreds of shadow clones and spam Tailed Beast Balls? It'll be pretty hard for Nagato. Even if he uses Shinra Tensei, Naruto can withstand it, using Shadow Clones. There is a 5 second window, so Naruto can use his blitz speed to get Nagato.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

There is actually a difference in KM and BM.

Kurama is actually helping Naruto in battle (instead of naruto relying on himself this time). Kurama personal experience and intelligence can benefit him fighting Nagato.

This could go 50/50.

 

[KidGamer65]

First of all, how will Nagato guard if Naruto makes hundreds of shadow clones and spam Tailed Beast Balls? It'll be pretty hard for Nagato. Even if he uses Shinra Tensei, Naruto can withstand it, using Shadow Clones. There is a 5 second window, so Naruto can use his blitz speed to get Nagato.

Lol, when will you people get it? Naruto can't make hundreds of Shadow Clones in BM. Kurama made this very clear when he told him some Shadow Clones should be ok since he made him wait a while after BM ran out. (He was gathering chakra).

Naruto's clones can't use the full Kurama cloak, only the original Naruto can do that. Unless you have scans of a clone using the Kurama cloak, thus Naruto isn't spamming Bijuu Dama either.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Lol, when will you people get it? Naruto can't make hundreds of Shadow Clones in BM. Kurama made this very clear when he told him some Shadow Clones should be ok since he made him wait a while after BM ran out. (He was gathering chakra).

Naruto's clones can't use the full Kurama cloak, only the original Naruto can do that. Unless you have scans of a clone using the Kurama cloak, thus Naruto isn't spamming Bijuu Dama either.

Two clones is still enough to give Naruto a chance.

 

[Unorthodox]

nagato ofc