Time Manipulation Powers for Sasuke too OP?

[elxdark]

Lol derp obito, to be honest I always thought sasuke would get some power-up with time manipulation, I think is the only way to be equal vs that op naruto

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Perhaps the Eien no Mangekyō Sharingan will permit such a thing.​

That is also my theory, but I think the jutsu in Oro's scroll would be the facilitator for the EMS to have time manipulation powers.​

 

[tenten fan]

Well considering BM Sage Naruto is now faster than FTG Minato then I say the odds are even against Time Jutsu Sasuke

you clearly lack the knowlegde of how time and space interact... if i could stop time there would be no progression in any direction of the movement of time so as soon as i start the time pausing jutsu there would be no further events therefore the jutsu could never be undone, because time is the space between events take that away then you are stuck in one state for eternity because leaving that state would be an event... therefore time jutsu regardless of chakra would be an eternity and since time is relative to space it would just affect the caster, unless a astronomical ammount of energy was introduced and every one else would experience time flow normally and sasuke would then be inturn trapped in his own reality, the only way naruto and sasuke could interact at that moment is through space jutsus

sorry for the science lecture

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

you clearly lack the knowlegde of how time and space interact... if i could stop time there would be no progression in any direction of the movement of time so as soon as i start the time pausing jutsu there would be no further events therefore the jutsu could never be undone, because time is the space between events take that away then you are stuck in one state for eternity because leaving that state would be an event... therefore time jutsu regardless of chakra would be an eternity and since time is relative to space it would just affect the caster, unless a astronomical ammount of energy was introduced and every one else would experience time flow normally and sasuke would then be inturn trapped in his own reality, the only way naruto and sasuke could interact at that moment is through space jutsus

sorry for the science lecture

You are applying real base physics on a fictional universe like Naruto, intermixing the concepts of physics with the laws operating in a fictional universe like Naruto only serves to obfuscate your point, and fyi General Relativity allows the concept of time dilation and time bending because gravity affects space-time.

 

[tenten fan]

You are applying real base physics on a fictional universe like Naruto, and fyi General Relativity allows the concept of time dilation and time bending because gravity affects space-time.

thats why i insterted the part about a large mass or energy source warping it to affect other more distant masses
gravity is such a weak force it takes planets to move any thing

 

[Brooks]

Agreed. If Obito can manipulate space, why not Sasuke manipulating time?

Yes, i think this can be possible with Itachi's Tsukuyomi and Izanagi

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^Obito stated that Itachi's Tsukuyomi can control time, but notice this only happens in one's mind.

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^When Sasuke transplanted Itachi's MS which would become the EMS...he said "It's working..Itachi's power is flowing into me" and one of Itachi's MS powers is Tsukuyomi which can control time, but this only happens in one's mind.

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^With Izanagi...Sasuke can use the ultimate illusion upon on himself to bring Tsukuyomi into reality then that will allow him to slow down time in the real world and notice how Izanagi can only be used on yourself and not anyone else.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

thats why i insterted the part about a large mass or energy source warping it to affect other more distant masses
gravity is such a weak force it takes planets to move any thing

Gravity is such a weak force? surely you jest... for it is one of the four fundamental forces in the universe, the entire paradigm shift from Newtonian absolute time to Einstein's space time is based on the the direct effect of gravity has on the space time continuum.

 

[tenten fan]

Gravity is such a weak force? surely you jest... for it is one of the four fundamental forces in the universe, the entire paradigm shift from Newtonian absolute time to Einstein's space time is based on the the direct effect of gravity has on the space time continuum.

alright i say that relatively, the other forces strong and weak force can turn fifteen pounds of urainuim into a planet moving bomb, and electromagnetic force can defy gravity with very little energy, and yes i know that, but one mans gravity couldn't slow down time far outside his own radius, in nano meters, without an astronomical energy source, like that of a super nova, or a quasar.
but i probably shouldn't apply physics to a fictional world, but it already seems they are on par, for ems we haven't seen anything
so right now they are the same level but if Sasuke gets Time, Naruto should get space, they are each others yins and yangs, and flying thunder god was more than just speed

p.s. i feel like i just nerded out with a science of anime disscussion

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

alright i say that relatively, the other forces strong and weak force can turn fifteen pounds of urainuim into a planet moving bomb, and electromagnetic force can defy gravity with very little energy, and yes i know that, but one mans gravity couldn't slow down time far outside his own radius, in nano meters, without an astronomical energy source, like that of a super nova, or a quasar.
but i probably shouldn't apply physics to a fictional world, but it already seems they are on par, for ems we haven't seen anything
so right now they are the same level but if Sasuke gets Time, Naruto should get space, they are each others yins and yangs, and flying thunder god was more than just speed

p.s. i feel like i just nerded out with a science of anime disscussion

Well then you are clearly confusing ideas by intermixing the laws operating on the real universe and the Naruto universe, since the very concept of time travel, if you know your applied physics, directly violates the second law of thermodynamics (at least based on empirical data) but teleportation like Minato's and Kamui's dimensional powers also violates the real physics of the observable universe (I like to stress out observable because the concepts of many other universes that preceded the Big Bang would entail the existence of other universes whose physical laws might operate differently from our own) therefore by what measure do you assess the possibility of everything supernatural that happens to Naruto? it is therefore only rational to apply non overlapping magisteria by keeping the concepts of real physics away from Naruto physics.

 

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

It was Said that Sasuke is nowhere Near Itachi's abilities

and even Itachi was not this OP


so .... No

 

[Uchicha Macho]

Sasuke is lord afterall.So get over it

 

[Brooks]

It was Said that Sasuke is nowhere Near Itachi's abilities

and even Itachi was not this OP


so .... No

Yes, that was before Sasuke got the MS let alone when he got EMS.

 

[tenten fan]

Well then you are clearly confusing ideas by intermixing the laws operating on the real universe and the Naruto universe, since the very concept of time travel, if you know your applied physics, directly violates the second law of thermodynamics (at least based on empirical data) but teleportation like Minato's and Kamui's dimensional powers also violates the real physics of the observable universe (I like to stress out observable because the concepts of many other universes that preceded the Big Bang would entail the existence of other universes whose physical laws might operate differently from our own) therefore by what measure do you assess the possibility of everything supernatural that happens to Naruto?

i was merely stating that if time travel didn't volate these laws there would be certian effect
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i simply gauge it by what a book reader a book or a story teller a story, it is truely the affect of a man's imagination driven to compel me to read, with basic elements of literature, plot confilict character developement, so to sum up i don't assess i like to enjoy the reality in which these charaters dwelll

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

i was merely stating that if time travel didn't volate these laws there would be certian effect
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i simply gauge it by what a book reader a book or a story teller a story, it is truely the affect of a man's imagination driven to compel me to read, with basic elements of literature, plot confilict character developement, so to sum up i don't assess i like to enjoy the reality in which these charaters dwelll

Then by what you mean of the reality of which these characters dwell the concepts like Kamui, Teleportation, Edo Tensei, etc. is completely possible in this fictional universe and thus exist, so its' not an impossibility that the concept of time travel or time manipulation is also a feasible concept in the Naruto universe.

 

[Draphsin]

Maybe by 3 seconds.

anything longer is way too OP

 

[tenten fan]

Then by what you mean of the reality of which these characters dwell the concepts like Kamui, Teleportation, Edo Tensei, etc. is completely possible in this fictional universe and thus exist, so its' not an impossibility that the concept of time travel or time manipulation is also a feasible concept in the Naruto universe.

it isn't to impossible
i was saying it was too powerfull
and also interjecting real world logic

but the point of this convo is two things
1) the manipulation of time in pausing would be eternal
2) they already are on par, so if you give sasuke time, give naruto space, but imo i feel like it would be a power up for sakura
(don't judge it) she has no special skills or clan tech, this would bring her up the ladder to not "follow the shadows of Naruto and Sasuke" -sakura, and it would break her out of her charater precident of having to be a typical female ninja, and allow her to surpass her teacher.

 

[Stark]

That would be pretty awesome, considering a lot of people are doubting the fact that Sasuke and Naruto are currently equal.

 

[Bogard]

It would be too overpowered to be true, so i doubt Kishi would really give him a jutsu like this, or it would be with some side effects

 

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

Yes, that was before Sasuke got the MS let alone when he got EMS.

even so , Itachi was nowhere near this level of Manipulation

if he is on par - then great , but nothng more nothing less

 

[KuroKaze]

nice one....it has a high probability..