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I had a lot of thinking recently and i realized, No... I came to the conclusion that time itself does not exist, It is rather a word used as a measurement of existence and the consequences of decay. Hours, Minutes, Seconds, Are only a numerical measurement of existence!

My point may not be 100% accurate, But still, What are your thoughts on this interesting find i've just shared?

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Also on a small note: Please no trolling, Flamming, Or overuse of foul language, I'm not expecting everyone to agree with me nor post and there is no need whatsoever for uncivilized flamming... Thank you...




i have often written about time, as it is a fascinating matter :), heres one of my previous posts..

dont read if you're not interested in reading other's thoughts..



Its sad..., when i think of time all i see is the end..

from the moment we are born, we get closer and closer to death with each second. If you look at your clock right now, what do you see?

i see an arrow pointed at my neck, unmovable, unchangeable and irrevocable.., and slowly but surely piercing each and every one of us, we are all hostages of time and we are getting killed. Time's the winner, we're the losers.

you, me, everyone here and the entire world, we are the people of this Age, the victims of this age, there are over 6 billion people on this planet, and you know what? - in a 100 years they are all dead!

a 100 years?! for 6 billion people?, seems unfair..

go back 1000 years ago, at a random place at random time, and pick a random person, watch him as he lives hes random life grows old and dies.., no one remembers hes name, no one knows how much he cared for his family and the sacrifices he made, the good and the bad deeds, hes dream, his pain..

who is he?

thats you!

its me maybe..
its most of us a 1000 years from now!

where are the billions of people who lived thousands of years ago?
they are lost in time..
did their life matter?
to them maybe
does it hold any meaning now?
it doesnt..
because no one remembers them?
no, because they are dead


if every second we are getting closer to death, does that mean we are living, or does it mean we are dying?..

if the answer is both, then life and death are the same thing, my answer is, we are all dying, the entire universe, we were never truly alive - we are only guests in this world, breathing the air, smelling the flowers, tasting the wine - but our tickets back to nothingness is already set on schedule.

what matters in your life?
all that matters to you are illusions, because they will fade, and when they do its the same as you never existed - the only thing that would be against that fact would be our minds denying the truth and giving value or matterness to our lives!

at this period in time, we are the people of NB - if there will be such a site in 20 years - we will not be be here, our replacements will, and what replaces the present is the future

we are the future of the past
and when they come - we are the past


a second is consistent of almost infinite smaller values if a micro second is gone by, then that micro second is dead lol, "you're dead to me micro second, do u hear me? - you're dead to me!!" jk jk

but seriously though as im writing this, my words are becoming history, its supposed to be the present but what im writing is becoming the past as i do it and what im writing "presently" is the future of my previous words a second ago" what lies under, is the future of what lies above.

in short, the Past, the Present, and the Future are one and the same thing and they all happen simultaneously!

a 1000 years ago "past" 0 years ago "now" 1000 from now "future" - is the same only in slower motion! - so my point is, what will end in a 100 years, ...has already ended!

so what is my point with all this?..

honestly it just makes me sad and i wanna get it out, but if i had an ulterior point then it would be this..

This whole world is meaningless whether you like it or not, nothing you say, or do matters, whatever you had, have, or will have holds no value! - you came from nothing you go back to nothing!

your family are made from atoms that dates back to the creation of the universe, and many parts of you comes from different stars!

the toilet paper that you use, some of its atoms may one day be part of a human, a normal everyday person who feels hes life holds meaning!

so when you judge a person by his color or race - it makes you one of the Dumbest creatures ever lived!! - you're an alien bro!, some of you're molecules may be from mars who knows!, so dont judge someone because hes black or white!


what are we?

we are no more than consciousness inside a body, all that ever matters to us is what is in our minds! - and how do we know our mind knows anything?


people have always argued with me about this, but i have always known, and will know that Nothing really matters, because if everything ends, then everything is an illusion!, a dream.., for something to be real it must exist!, and if it only exists in space but not time then its useless! - for things to truly matter they must be neverending!, even life!


So my final point is, everything in this world is an illusion, therefore try to be as real as you can be!, choose the One illusion that matters to you most, embrace it, and make it your reality!!

i choose Love..., its the only illusion in this world worth living.






though i have a dream of discovering immortality through genetics :p though it is only a Dream that i will pursue


Regarding your thoughts, when i first started thinking about time, i came to the same conclusion as you, and in a way i still do, however ive found time to be a much more compicated matter than we'd like to believe, some scientists believe there are 11 Dimensions including our universe, 10 Space Dimensions, and 1 Time Dimension, for our three Dimensional world, time is the Fourth Dimension, but for the Next Dimension, time is the fifth Dimension and so on and so on - this is part of the String theory

time completes space, and vice versa, which is why its called space-time continuum

even Einstein believed time was a Dimension, though einstein said many things including the possibility of time Travel, which im certain is Impossible, i dont believe there are Infinite versions of the Universe, a version for every micro or nano second, theres no past for you to travel to, the present is your past, and future, they are happening simultaneously which creates something we call the Present.

however time is not nothing. Imagine yourself sitting in a chair, while the whole Universe stops functioning, and the Consequences of Decay are no more, the whole world is still, nothing happening, soon enough you will realize nothing is changed "Timewise", regardless of everything around you. Youve been sitting there for hours, doing nothing, not moving a muscle, yet time has passed by as if nothing is changed - so is time just something that exists in our minds?, lets go back to the chair, only this time, you dont even think or breath, your mind is static, there is no activity inside your body, none!, youre completely dead, but lets say by some miracle you come back to life, and you replay your death, or better yet, you replay your mind while you where dead, what will you see through your dead eyes? - nothing! - but here is the twist.., this nothing proves the existence of time, because When you replay your dead mind, you might be seeing, thinking or sensing Nothing for a While, but then youre back to normal!, why? - because time does exist!!, and what you experienced was a dead space in a living time, you started the Replay at 12:00 and it ended at 16:00 "four hours of nothing and then youre back to normal" that means, despite the absence of motion and energy, time still went on and the period you spent in nothingness was 4 hours!!. and you started being something again - so my point is, time does exist in a way, we are yet to find out more about it, anyway time is Linked to our Universe, but its not parted of it, without the Universe, there would be no time for us, but there might be for other Dimensions or Existances.
 
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Time as it stands is an illusion. There simply is no such thing without motion, spacial distance, ect;
Time for me is different for someone living a thousand miles to the west of me though we live in the same country, it is a relative thing that is relative to the beholder, meaning, my time and your time are not the same. My heart began to beat the moment it was formed while I was in the womb and time was already passing outside of that haven for others. My mother's belly grew while I experienced nothing but form and weightless existence, then I was born.
I think it's funny that people put so much value into birth days. What is a birthday? A mere 365 days after ones birth; but imagine for a second if you had been born on Mercury or Pluto. It takes Mercury 88 days to complete it's revolution around the Sun, it takes 260 some odd earth years for Pluto to complete it's own. That means that a year of 365 days is only relative to those living on earth. Would we age faster if we were on Mercury or age slower while on Pluto? That I think is a very profound question if I do say so myself.
Time travel happens all the time. Take for instance someone who get's a plane heading west to the other side of the world, time will have changed for them because time is different according to ones position and the speed it takes to get from point A to point B.
Time indeed is an illusion, and I agree with you; none of our lives truly matter, we simply deceive ourselves through involuntary narcissism that we do.
 

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waiit... Waaah?

Time=Measurement of Change.

Why such rabble about nothingness...?Dimensions... o.o... space... Huh?
 

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Time as it stands is an illusion. There simply is no such thing without motion, spacial distance, ect;
Time for me is different for someone living a thousand miles to the west of me though we live in the same country, it is a relative thing that is relative to the beholder, meaning, my time and your time are not the same. My heart began to beat the moment it was formed while I was in the womb and time was already passing outside of that haven for others. My mother's belly grew while I experienced nothing but form and weightless existence, then I was born.
I think it's funny that people put so much value into birth days. What is a birthday? A mere 365 days after ones birth; but imagine for a second if you had been born on Mercury or Pluto. It takes Mercury 88 days to complete it's revolution around the Sun, it takes 260 some odd earth years for Pluto to complete it's own. That means that a year of 365 days is only relative to those living on earth. Would we age faster if we were on Mercury or age slower while on Pluto? That I think is a very profound question if I do say so myself.
Time travel happens all the time. Take for instance someone who get's a plane heading west to the other side of the world, time will have changed for them because time is different according to ones position and the speed it takes to get from point A to point B.
Time indeed is an illusion, and I agree with you; none of our lives truly matter, we simply deceive ourselves through involuntary narcissism that we do.

Regarding what you said about motion, i dont know if you read this part
however time is not nothing. Imagine yourself sitting in a chair, while the whole Universe stops functioning, and the Consequences of Decay are no more, the whole world is still, nothing happening, soon enough you will realize nothing is changed "Timewise", regardless of everything around you. Youve been sitting there for hours, doing nothing, not moving a muscle, yet time has passed by as if nothing is changed - so is time just something that exists in our minds?, lets go back to the chair, only this time, you dont even think or breath, your mind is static, there is no activity inside your body, none!, youre completely dead, but lets say by some miracle you come back to life, and you replay your death, or better yet, you replay your mind while you where dead, what will you see through your dead eyes? - nothing! - but here is the twist.., this nothing proves the existence of time, because When you replay your dead mind, you might be seeing, thinking or sensing Nothing for a While, but then youre back to normal!, why? - because time does exist!!, and what you experienced was a dead space in a living time, you started the Replay at 12:00 and it ended at 16:00 "four hours of nothing and then youre back to normal" that means, despite the absence of motion and energy, time still went on and the period you spent in nothingness was 4 hours!!. and you started being something again - so my point is, time does exist in a way, we are yet to find out more about it, anyway time is Linked to our Universe, but its not parted of it, without the Universe, there would be no time for us, but there might be for other Dimensions or Existances.
i was trying to explain that it doesnt depend on motion or such things :)

and i think regardless of which planet we are on, time is the same, and we age the same considering we have a life sustaining environment!
 

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i believe time is based off of the amount of rotations the earth makes
 

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Regarding what you said about motion, i dont know if you read this part

i was trying to explain that it doesnt depend on motion or such things :)

and i think regardless of which planet we are on, time is the same, and we age the same considering we have a life sustaining environment!
Actually that last statement of yours is easily not true. When an astronaut goes up into space and spends a couple of earth years up there they barely age over a few months while everything changes on the planet. The decay from solar radiation, the spin of the earth as well as the time it takes to revolve around the sun all seem to contribute to our aging process.
Also motion and momentum are essential to what we call time travel which was what I was getting at. You premise about the chair though it was well thought out was slightly incorrect because you yourself have not experienced the time that has elapsed on a conscious or even sub-conscious level making the elapsed time moot from your stand point.
 

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Actually that last statement of yours is easily not true. When an astronaut goes up into space and spends a couple of earth years up there they barely age over a few months while everything changes on the planet. The decay from solar radiation, the spin of the earth as well as the time it takes to revolve around the sun all seem to contribute to our aging process.
Also motion and momentum are essential to what we call time travel which was what I was getting at. You premise about the chair though it was well thought out was slightly incorrect because you yourself have not experienced the time that has elapsed on a conscious or even sub-conscious level making the elapsed time moot from your stand point.

Astronauts age slower due to the time they spend in a spacecraft, the faster you travel, the slower time goes for you, and when you reach the speed of light supposedly time stops, and according to einstein, if travel faster than light, you will go back in time.

but thats not linked to my last statement, what i meant was even though time goes slower for a fast moving object, while the objects time is affected, time in general is not - it doesnt change anything about the nature of time.
 

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