hashirama>naruto

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Kronnic

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It was said hashirama can't be beaten by anyone alive, this was more recent, so which do i believe xd

Surpass does not mean he can beat

Yeah it was said by Madara but that was before he got his ass kicked by Gai and oh and did you see that kick Lee gave his ass?
Do you think Madara saw what he had coming from Naruto?
 

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Obito said he had several under his control which doesn't mean he controlled them all at the same time which could mean he just had them in his possession through suppressing them. Which makes a lot more sense to me than him using them like Obito. It hasn't even been hinted at that he can use them like Obito or Madara as well.

lmao youre actually just saying that your words>manga, reread what i posted and what was written on those manga pages. I never said hashi could control all the bijuu at once (that would probably take a lot out of him) but he can control them individually. You also just posted another piece of evidence as to how hashi controlled them and not "supressed" as youre claiming. Let me clarify this, nowhere during the manga does it say that hashi "supressed" multiple bijuu, Id does however say that hashi had them under his control, meaning he was in control of them (he could make them do whatever he pleases.) You denying this fact is going directly against the manga, you cant just paraphrase a sentence like that and say that youre right, because the manga contradicted your argument twice and you were kind enough to post the second piece of evidence :)
 

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lmao youre actually just saying that your words>manga, reread what i posted and what was written on those manga pages. I never said hashi could control all the bijuu at once (that would probably take a lot out of him) but he can control them individually. You also just posted another piece of evidence as to how hashi controlled them and not "supressed" as youre claiming. Let me clarify this, nowhere during the manga does it say that hashi "supressed" multiple bijuu, Id does however say that hashi had them under his control, meaning he was in control of them (he could make them do whatever he pleases.) You denying this fact is going directly against the manga, you cant just paraphrase a sentence like that and say that youre right, because the manga contradicted your argument twice and you were kind enough to post the second piece of evidence :)

What i'm getting at is that under control doesn't mean to control, i'm saying he had them under his control by using his suppression ability. Also, I'm not referring to your post mainly the OP's point about Hashirama using them like Obito.

I also don't think this is a main point. Why are we giving Hashirama Bijuu when he's never shown to be able to use them in battle? Nobody says Nagato can use all the bijuu like Obito as he had gedo mazo with the bijuu and better skill with rinngan.
 
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madara called naruto, kakashi, gai and bee a half-assed band of ninja.

he called hashirama the ultimate shinobi. its quite clear just from that, that madara himself thinks that hashirama>>>naruto.
 

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naruto's clones destroy him. flash bijuu dama destroys him. speed destroys him. sensing destroys him. ma and pa frog song destroys him. naruto regen from kyuubi (without wasting his own chakra) destroys him. wood dragon is dodged then destroyed. naruto's chakra roar destroys him. naruto's strength destroys him. naruto's chakra and stamina destroys him. naruto's COMBINED intellect destroys him (kurama who fought hashi before, ma and pa with experience, himself and even other frog summons).
 

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naruto's clones destroy him. flash bijuu dama destroys him. speed destroys him. sensing destroys him. ma and pa frog song destroys him. naruto regen from kyuubi (without wasting his own chakra) destroys him. wood dragon is dodged then destroyed. naruto's chakra roar destroys him. naruto's strength destroys him. naruto's chakra and stamina destroys him. naruto's COMBINED intellect destroys him (kurama who fought hashi before, ma and pa with experience, himself and even other frog summons).
just like bijudama, strength and everything that the kyuubi had along with madara who easily makes up for the advantages that BM naruto has over the kyuubi destroyed hashirama at VOTE right? extreme fanboyism.

>will probably say he isnt a fanboy when accused.
>but claims that BM naruto>madara+kyuubi yet he only has half the chakra of the original to boot.
 

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His suppressing jutsu didn't work on naruto in the manga so there is no way he is beating naruto since he can't match his raw power nor his speed. Naruto is definitely stronger, if you think otherwise tell me how hashirama will win. I'm waiting
 

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Hashirama could bend biju to his control, manga fact
Hashirama could use them like bee, naruto, yogara and naruto, manga fact
Hashirama had several biju, manga fact
Hashirama had kyuubi, manga fact
Hashiramas wood clones are the best, assumption from what we have seen


So hashirama could use kyuubi and his other biju to crush naruto


WE KNOW HASHIRAMA COULD BEAT ANYONE ALIVE, MANGA FACT SAID BY KABUTO xd

Do you agree or disagree

Naruto already escaped the strongest Mokuton
so what
so what
so what
They're not really any diffrent from Kage Bunshin except they use Wood as a medium

Not really

Naruto > Hashi or Edo Madara for that matter
 
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