SM Naruto vs Hebi Sasuke?

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Naruto has Zero genjutsu counter. Sasuke has genjustu. Nuff said.

 

[Minator93]

SM Naruto stomps Sasuke U_U

 

[warlee]

Sm naruto beat hebi sasuke in every major area of shinobi pratice except genjutsu. And sm naruto = ms sasuke naruto wins low to mid diff.

 

[Killer Vision]

SM Naruto takes this

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

SM Naruto definitely beats 3 tamoe hebi Sasuke. The way I see it between Naruto and Sasuke...

Naruto base = Sasuke 3 tamoe
Naruto SM = Sasuke MS
Naruto BM = Sasuke EMS

Not saying that they are exactly equal, but that essentially they are in the same league when compared like that. SM Naruto would beat 3 tamoe Sasuke mid-high diff. IMO.

At least mid-high though. It wouldn't be low, 3 tamoe Sasuke showed some pretty good skills against deidara..

 

[Boston Rob]

If Sasuke starts with Kirin then he wins, if not then Naruto

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

If Sasuke starts with Kirin then he wins, if not then Naruto

It would be kind of impossible for him to throw out Kirin right at the beginning as it requires prep time. SM Naruto can rasenshuriken/odama rasengan him in the face before he even gets a chance.

 

[Unorthodox]

sm naruto ofc

 

[SasukeHaremMasta]

sasuke very high dif

 

[QdonEms]

if kirin hits naruto its gg. other than that SM naruto wins mid diff

 

[VongolaX]

Sm Naruto wins

Sasuke has the incomplete snake

While naruto mastered the complete frog sage, surpassing Jiraiya within a few hrs/day.

 

[Raijingan]

Naruto neg diff

One rasen shuriken and it's good bye Sasuke

 

[shelke]

Hebi Sasuke wins Mid difference. He has the speed to dodge FRS and the CS2 durability to withstand any major attacks. Frog Kata requires extreme proximity to work against an opponent, an inch to be precise. I have covered several of the points on CS2's durability and FRS's speed in these posts in another thread:

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By canon logic Snake summons are far superior than both Katsuya and Frogs combined. Sasuke can use Wings to fly and use additional summons to withstand damage and snare Naruto if necessat as shown during his fight with Deidara and him restraining Juugo. Genjutsu presents an added affect.

I can't see how Sasuke loses this fight.

 

[lanakui8]

Hebi Sasuke wins Mid difference. He has the speed to dodge FRS and the CS2 durability to withstand any major attacks. Frog Kata requires extreme proximity to work against an opponent, an inch to be precise. I have covered several of the points on CS2's durability and FRS's speed in these posts in another thread:

CS2's durability:

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FRS Speed:

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No sasuke gets completely stomped. Naruto wouldnʻt even use FRS against him when a normal senpou rasengan is enough to kill him, let alone narutoʻs rasengan variants like oodama, chou oodama and fuuton rasengan. Naruto doesnʻt even have to fight sasuke himself, he can just send his clones to kill Sasuke as each of them are on par with sasuke in speed and reactions, yet exceed him in strength and they all can use lethal things like the rasengans and variants.

By canon logic Snake summons are far superior than both Katsuya and Frogs combined. Sasuke can use Wings to fly and use additional summons to withstand damage and snare Naruto if necessat as shown during his fight with Deidara and him restraining Juugo. Genjutsu presents an added affect.

by canon logic, Manda II is superior to bunta. Nothing about katsuya, and by canon logic sasukeʻs only way of using manda II in a fight is to genjutsu him throughout the entire thing. Manda II isnʻt even a factor though since SM clones have nukes that can take him out in a single hit.

I can't see how Sasuke loses this fight.

Hereʻs how sasuke loses this fight:

He only matches SM Naruto in MAYBE speed and reactions (as long as he can see what heʻs trying to react to). SM NAruto has greater durability, greater strength and Narutoʻs firepower absolutely crushes Hebi sasukeʻs firepower. Hebi Sasukeʻs firepower doesnʻt even get to the level of a senpou oodama rasengan unless heʻs using an amaterasu-powered kirin like the one he did against itachi, but he never even gets to that point since heʻs not dealing with multiple clones who are just as fast and reflexive as him, stronger than him, and have attacks that will end him in a single hit.

And thatʻs pain arc SM Naruto, if this is war arc SM NAruto Sasuke gets stomped by an entire new order of magnitude as Naruto can fuse with ma and pa for unlimited sennin mode. The fact that you list no way Sasuke even hurts SM Naruto shows how unsupported your argument is.

 

[shelke]

Here we go again with the clones. they get taken care of with flight and Dragon Katon attacks and speed. Assuming that those will connect with Sasuke. If they do by luck, then CS2 easily tanks the damage.

I suggest you re-read the fight between Manda, Katsuya, Bunta and Jiraiya. Had Tsunade not stepped in, Bunta would have been swallowed whole. Sasuke doesn't need Manda II to take care of Bunta who lost his Sword to Manda and couldn't even damage him despite using a massive flame attack with Jiraiya. Something Naruto doesn't even possess.

CS2's durability is far greater anything Naruto has shown. I have proven that with posts. War arc SM Naruto without Kurama's augmentation is just as sub-par as Pein arc Naruto. Already dealt with all these points in another thread. I don't feel like repeating myself.

 

[ARGUS]

Naruto wrecks him with ease

 

[lanakui8]

Here we go again with the clones. they get taken care of with flight and Dragon Katon attacks and speed. Assuming that those will connect with Sasuke. If they do by luck, then CS2 easily tanks the damage.

Dragon katons get easily dodged by SM clones due to their speed and danger sense, or the clones just plow right through the dragon katon with Oodama rasengan and kills Sasuke.
A single SM clone has speed at least on the same level as Sasuke, has far greater strength, jutsu and throws invisible punches. Sasuke is not taking them 1 vs 1 let alone 2 vs 1 in anything CQC related.

a single SM rasengan is far stronger than even Kakashiʻs raikiri. Sasuke gets killed if he tries to tank anything with CS2 durability, at best his wing gets blown to bits by a senpou rasengan.

I suggest you re-read the fight between Manda, Katsuya, Bunta and Jiraiya. Had Tsunade not stepped in, Bunta would have been swallowed whole. Sasuke doesn't need Manda II to take care of Bunta who lost his Sword to Manda and couldn't even damage him despite using a massive flame attack with Jiraiya. Something Naruto doesn't even possess.

Manda > Bunta, I literally said that. Narutoʻs clones fodderizes manda with oodama rasengan or obliterates it with FRS. Sasuke will also have to control manda the entire match with his sharingan which reduces his battle capability since his greatest feat of control is a brief moment.

CS2's durability is far greater anything Naruto has shown. I have proven that with posts. War arc SM Naruto without Kurama's augmentation is just as sub-par as Pein arc Naruto. Already dealt with all these points in another thread. I don't feel like repeating myself.

edo madara casually blocked V1 Eiʻs punch without sustaining any damage to his arm. CS2ʻs durability isnʻt even on his level let alone SM Narutoʻs. A SM rasengan kills Sasuke or blows off his wing if he tries to block it.

War arc SM NAruto is on a completely different level than Pein arc Naruto just by the fact that he can fuse with ma and pa. He can also fire three FRS per sennin mode, stay in the mode longer, enter it faster, and use far larger rasengans. So nope. Pein arc SM Naruto fodderizes hebi sasuke. War arc SM Naruto fodderizes Sasuke on a totally different magnitude.

Once again, you havenʻt even listed a way that Sasuke even beats SM Naruto. CQC, Sasuke gets dominated he just canʻt deal with Narutoʻs SM clones. Firepower, Sasuke is completely dominated, heʻs dominated in every category bar speed (where heʻs still exceeded) and reactions (where heʻs still exceeded).

 

[Raijingan]

Anyone who think Sasuke even stands a chance is delusional. Naruto can kill Sasuke with one punch. Give Sasuke MS if you want a better match up

 

[Apêx1]

Hebi Sasuke wins high diff.
-FRS is easily dodged. None of the 6POP even got caught in the FRS, bar the human path [

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], who only got caught because he was saving the animal path, who needs no speed when all he does is summon and go invisible with the chameleon. Deva, Asura and Animal all survived however, and that just comes to show that if people who are featless speed wise can dodge it, someone who was keeping up with Itachi and casually out doing Deidara can as well.

-Kirin isn't hard to generate. Amateratsu was a simple bonus. The DB clearly states that the Katon Dragons are what triggered the clouds formation. The manga depicts it as well. As you can see in this explanation... On the bottom right panel [

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], the sky is shown to be quite clear. Even before, the sky was clear on multiple occasions [

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]. A page or so later [

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], there are several panels depicting the sky above them to be highly abundant with 'thunder clouds'. And then bam,

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ends the fight. Anyone who tries to dispute this (and the DB) is simply basing it on their own will for the opposing character to win, rather than logic and facts.

-Frog Kata? What a joke, Sasuke can increase his range with his sword as much as he wants, use poisonous snakes to his advantage at random times, as well as pull off genjutsu's while in close range. Naruto has no counter for genjutsu. Naruto has no antidote in the case he gets bitten by a snake. Naruto has no counter to a Raiton enhanced Kusanagi randomly expanding like

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. Once he's touched, he gets numbed in the same way Yamato did [

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].

-Bunta among other summons? Nice joke. Manda shits on them. That is, if Sasuke chose not to put Bunta under his control and have Naruto attempt to fight a massive snake who can't be killed by any of Naruto's attacks, and a toad he most likely wouldn't even harm because he's his 'friend'. Good luck Nardo, fighting two massive summons and Sasuke. I'm sure he'l be dodging Manda's assaults, Bunta's Water bullets, and Sasuke's Chidori Senbon spams along with large amounts of smaller snakes all at once.

 

[naruto7861]

It's either one high diff no where near low or midd diff for either