[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 693 Discussion and 694 Predictions

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Chapter 693: Once Again... (same title with chapter 680). Meaning of the title: Naruto VS. Sasuke. One last battle. The way he ended PART I, same way will end PART II, with Naruto VS. Sasuke.
Sakura is ridiculous, says the same thing she sees Sasuke. Don't you understand girl, that Sasuke doesn't care about you and he doesn't love you? Even if she has grown up, some things remains the same...like Sakura.
This chapter could have been better if Sasuke killed Sakura for real, not a genjutsu. At least she won't talk anymore in the upcoming chapters. As for Kakashi, he doesn't need to involve in this, good thing he's overpowered.
We will found out Sasuke's real intentions and his opinions on what is like to be Hokage. Is he like Madara, just Hogoromo says or different?
They choose to fight in the same place they fought in Part I - Valley of the End. Sasuke standing on Madara's statue and Naruto on Hashirama's statue.
The Final Battle for the title of Hokage begins!
I wished if Sasuke revived Madara, but on second thought...I'm mistaken. This is one-one fight, no one will involve in battle, the moment we all have been waiting for, who is more powerful: Naruto or Sasuke?
No, he isnt anymore , he lost his sharingan power once obito chakra left his body, but he is feeling the after efects.
The sharingan wasnt his in first place anyway :win:
 

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Hopefully, we can see "that" technique. Also, I don't want to see a rehash of the 1st/Madara techniques from their fight. I want to see something new and growth. Prepare to see some flashbacks of Jiraya teaching naruto.

Can't wait to see what Kishi comes up with.
 

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Ugh, dammit Kishi! 692 - "There's gonna be a big fight! Sasuke vs Naruto! Finally! But we're taking a break next week" 2 weeks later: 693: "Wait! The fights almost here! They're gonna fight I swear!"

Prediction for 694: "They're charging at each other! The battle begins in 695!"
Prediction for 695: "TNJ! Trolled ya! - Kishi"

Seriously. We waited 2 weeks and the only action we saw was Sasuke trolling Sakura about how weak and useless she is. End this arc already! If you guys think about it, Kishi's been writing about the same battle for almost 2 years now. Talk about dragging things out.
 

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I really like the effect of reincorporating the statues of Hashirama and Madara. Now that we know the whole tale of the Sage's Sons, it really comes together thematically. That was probably the best part of the chapter, just seeing the archetypes repeated.
 

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I really like the effect of reincorporating the statues of Hashirama and Madara. Now that we know the whole tale of the Sage's Sons, it really comes together thematically. That was probably the best part of the chapter, just seeing the archetypes repeated.
Yeah but I dont want them to destroy the statues. Hopefully their fight migrates to a different area.

In fact, shouldn't madara's statue have a big hole around the ankle area from when naruto and sasuke had their last fight??

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I really enjoyed reading your thoughts on this. It is very well thought out and you address many factors that are important in the series (and the potential future). I'm glad you talk so much about the inner natures of both Sasuke and Naruto.
Thank you for writing this, especially addressing people's comments about Sakura.

Btw on a completely different topic, I loved kakashi's panels. The look on his face (well what we can see with the mask) is pretty cool. Don't know how Kishinev can make a character's eyes so expressive!
I give it a 5/5. =D
I love Naruto so Im probably biased.

So...i read everyones comments.
Kinda disgusted by what I saw...honestly...:eww:

Discussion:
A: [on Sasuke stabbing Sakura and then it turning out to be genjutsu]
I was really disappointed when I saw Sasuke stab Sakura. I paused and sighed heavily.
I was happy and relieved when it turned out to be genjutsu attack only.
Sakura does not deserve to die for being "useless" (even though shes not even remotely useless)(her healing makes her eminently useful for any ninja good or bad, if ninjas are tools, Sakura is one of the best)
She doesnt deserve to die for being "annoying" (being loved should never be annoying, and if it is you need a head scan)
Sakura is a wonderful character and I would hate to see her killed by a jerk like Sasuke.
Even though she would never be killed by something like that...she has mito regen...so yeah...
Tsunade was literally cut in half by Madara, and she lived...I feel confident Sakura could do the same.
Thats not to say Sasuke couldnt kill her another way, he has many powers...
Im sickened that so many of you talk about wanting her to die or be killed and how that would make you happy.
Im worried for many of you that said that...I recommend swift action to change your mind before you ruin you life or someone else's with that sort of attitude... Im here if anyone needs some counseling. I wont judge and would do my best to help you find a positive mindset.

B: [on Sasuke and the case of the "Neutral Evil"]
Sasuke is clearly feeling justified in his decisions to do what he claims he will do/has done.
(animal cruelty/imprisonment of intelligent creatures with feelings, trapping the beasts) (premeditated cold blooded killing of his peers, the kage, while they sleep, defenseless) (1st degree murder of his friend, Naruto, savior of Konoha, Sasuke's village) (mental attacks on his admirer and fellow teammate, Sakura) (1st degree murder of Danzo, the self elected leader of Konoha at the time, his elder) (the attempted murder of his brother, Itachi, who lived and died for his brother Sasuke of his own free will[itachi ftw]) (the attempted murder and mutilation of ninja jinchuriki Killer Bee, who is ultimately a really nice guy, lol) (being a emo drama queen who feels justified in taking away others freedom, and right to live by self determination) I could go on and on I bet, but I think you get the point...this describes Sasuke very well:
"A neutral evil villain does whatever she can get away with. She is out for herself, pure and simple. She sheds no tears for those she kills, whether for profit, sport, or convenience. She has no love of order and holds no illusion that following laws, traditions, or codes would make her any better or more noble. On the other hand, she doesn't have the restless nature or love of conflict that a chaotic evil villain has.
Some neutral evil villains hold up evil as an ideal, committing evil for its own sake. Most often, such villains are devoted to evil deities or secret societies.
Neutral evil beings consider their alignment to be the best because they can advance themselves without regard for others.
Neutral evil is the most dangerous alignment because it represents pure evil without honor and without variation."

-http://easydamus.com/neutralevil.html

I don't even need to hear Sasuke explain his concept or idea of what a Hokage is, i already know.
If I had to wager, Id say that Sasuke believes that it is a leader's job to make the "hard choices" to do whats necessary for change, regardless of support or morality involved. He believes that to make an omelet you must break some eggs. He believes that if he has to trap the beasts, kill Naruto, kill the kage, and whatever else to make the world a better safer place, then that is his justification. He sees the darker side of the coin, like Danzo/Madara/Obito did. He thinks that a true leader does what his people need him to do, with or without their support. If he has to hurt them to help them, then so be it. He believes that the end justifies the means. With no exceptions. Which, sorry to say, ladies and gentlemen, is just flat out WRONG. Anything that comes with a loss of life or freedom "in the name of good" is not truly good, it is a spoiled apple. Its core is sick, and that sickness will permeate. It is based in the swamp of evil and can never truly be a good thing. That being said, we will move on to Naruto next...

C: [on what Naruto is thinking and going through]
Naruto is somewhere between a lawful good and chaotic good hero. He wants to be a part of the plan(hokage) but he ultimately follows his heart as a guide to whats "good" and "bad". I think Naruto and I have a similar understanding or outlook. Like many of the Konoha leaders and heroes, he puts others before himself (Asuma explained it best to Shikamaru as the "King" being the children of Konoha, and putting them first above all else). Naruto knows injustice when he sees it having been a victim of cruelty as a child. He wants to try to make things better, but isnt willing to cause pain or harm to anyone, to do so. I think he truly believes that it is unnecessary, and that you can do good with good only. Hes right too. Parents do it everyday. Sometimes you want to hit your kid or scream at them to try and force them to behave the way you want them to...but being unwilling to harm them, and knowing that there is a better way: for example: you accept them(first step) then you try and understand them (second step) and then you try and help them (third step).
This is Naruto's method for dealing with the crazy aholes out there. It is his go to plan, that we refer to lovingly as "TnJ".
Naruto judges everyone equally, he doesn't discriminate, and believes that everyone, no matter their size shape or stature, deserve happiness and freedom of self determination. He would fight for that cause, for anyone, and has shown it repeatedly as a child, and as a teen. That being said...we can infer that Naruto completely understands what Sasuke is feeling, he understands how someone could see things in a negative light, maybe its his experience with his own hatred, or having to live for his whole life with Kurama's hate within him at such a close proximity. Most likely its a combination of many things, and its Naruto's experience combined with his desire to not hurt others the way hes been hurt that leads him to be a "champion of good" as it were. This is the main difference between him and Sasuke. Sasuke was hurt as well, and that has created the sickness in him, because instead of seeing it as merely a "sad occurrence to be avoided in the future" he sees it as a normal prerequisite, or simply said the "cost of doing business". He isnt afraid to get his hands dirty and hurt others, because he was hurt by someone who loved him very much. He believes that to help those you love and care for, you have to hurt them...what a poor SoB...Itachi screwed that one up pretty badly, I gotta say...he created a mindset in Sasuke, like Inception, that functions in Sasuke's subconscious. "pain is love" or something equally true but equally ridiculous...Being able to control someone, doesn't give you the right to. Thinking you know whats best for someone doesn't give you the right to force your idea upon them. Sasuke crosses a line with Naruto when he actually tries to do harm. I think Naruto is like, "hey believe what ever you want man, cause hell, I get it, just don't hurt my friends" then at the same time Naruto is like "you don't honestly thing I'm going to let you get away with this, right?" I think Sasuke is in for the fight of his life this time, because Naruto would die gladly to protect his friends, and Sasuke isnt ready for that, I promise you. Sasuke won't want to die to achieve his goal, because without him, his goal can never come true, so he will put his life first, believing he holds the importance. Naruto will take Sasuke with him, if hes forced to, and be totally ok with that. He even warned Sasuke at their last meeting... its like Sasuke forgot, is too stupid to understand it, or just is ignorant enough to think he can take Naruto without losing... (he's so overconfident and conceited, a truest downfall there ever was for bad guys, classic for sure)

"if we fight again, we both will die"

Id go on, but if you werent already bored, you sure are getting that way, if youre still reading this...

[Prediction]
Sasuke will tell Naruto, that he will do whatever needs done, and thats what a true Hokage is, a hard man...like Danzo ironically... :devil: to free the world he must break the system and create it anew...

"because that which is destroyed can always be fixed and rebuilt"
sadly, if that comes at the cost of the lives of the leaders, and the followers that are in his way, then so be it.
no one is going to stop Sasuke from doing what he thinks is right, the definition of a zealot, maybe...
like I mentioned earlier, hes a jerk, and hes wrong...that's what a democracy/republic is all about...
the majority vote and decide what is best for everyone, not some psychotic, mentally unstable tyrant usurping everyone's choices and making his own, for them, without their approval...
Naruto is the ideal leader, he would do whats best for his people as he sees fit (which would usually be right, as he would be putting their own interests first, and would only act ultimately with their approval.)
Sasuke is just a tyrannical maniac who thinks he knows whats best for everyone, even though he is just a child, who was physically and mentally abused by his big brother, outclassed by his teammate (who he views as a lesser being)(he constantly, even recently, makes comments like "don't underestimate the uchiha" he has such a superiority complex like his shit doesn't stink, grow up dude)
They will fight to the death, both embracing their ideals. Ultimately Naruto will win, because he doesn't know how to give up, and is willing to die for his goal, unlike Sasuke. I don't know if either of them will die in the end...I know that Naruto doesn't want to kill Sasuke if he doesn't have to, and will do everything he can to find a peaceful resolution, I'm sure he would prefer that. That will be up to Sasuke in the end, if he stops, maybe they can both walk away from this...if he wont...then Naruto will be forced to go all the way and kill him. Id like to see Naruto do to Sasuke what he did to Gaara early in the series. He fought him toe to toe, tooth and nail, man to man all the way to exhaustion. He was literally crawling over to Gaara at the end using only his NECK and CHIN, that's ridiculous at best. Id like to think that Naruto can take everything Sasuke has, all the hatred, all the anger, all the evil, and stand in front of him as a friend and comrade. He will prevent Sasuke from doing evil by standing in front of him and taking the shots himself. If Sasuke metaphorically has a "loaded gun" then Naruto would rather take the bullets himself rather then let Sasuke use them on "robbing the liquor store" or committing the "bank robbery".
At the end of the day, I hope Naruto just beats the tar out of Sasuke and possibly knocks some sense into him...however unlikely that is...:dunno:
Like I said..Naruto wont give up, and would die for his goal of protecting those he loves...ultimately that is his advantage over Sasuke in this fight. In a mystical sense of powers and jutsu, his advantage comes from having what Id like to refer to as "outside chakra sources" He has his own Chakra, just like Sasuke, which is formidable, make no mistake. But he also has the ability to draw in nature's chakra (sasuke cant do this, and can only rely on his own chakra) Naruto also has the ability to supplement his own chakra with that of any of the tailed beasts within him (also something sasuke cant do) Sure Sasuke has some sick doujutsu powers in the "Shraningan" (rinnengan/sharingan) or "Omningan" but can he really hope to compete with Naruto's cleverness and seemingly endless stamina?

{questions quickly answered}
1.) hokage ARE chosen by the people through the representatives (the elders, the feudal lord, the high ranking jounin, the previous hokage) it is not a monarchy that follows some rite of succession... its like electing a president from a small cabinet of elders and peers and leaders. Danzo was never officially the sixth hokage because he kind of self elected himself and was never officially "inducted into the position" like a president who "swears in" upon taking up the position.
he was killed by Sasuke before that could happen, hence there is no sixth hokage...

2.) Madara was able to one shot the Biju with his rinnengan, so im not surprised Sasuke is able to chibaku them all with his upgraded eyes, though it definitely seems OP in scale with other stuff weve seen. i think hes the only one to ever achieve the omningan eye that he has "via eternal mangekou supplemented by original 1st generation so6p chakra"

3.) Sasuke apparently doesnt know that you cant kill the Bijuu, they just come back to life endlessly, their power is eternal as it is merely a representative of the juubi/godtree's chakra pool. though i dont suppose there is anything to prevent him from keeping them trapped and under control like he has them now. he just couldnt kill them, technically.

4.) why can Naruto continue to fight endlessly while Kakashi is utterly exhausted? we know that Naruto has one of the highest chakra pools and the fastest strongest regeneration of chakra in the entire series. He is uzumaki/senju and is also a jinchuuriki who totally haxxed the kage bunshin no jutsu, and mastered sage chakra. he can continually regenerate his supply of chakra inbetween conflicts, and probably refills to max within a short period of time, that for others would seem unrealistic. id say an hour would put him at full capacity, as silly as that sounds, most would have to wait an entire day, I bet.

5.) why was kaguya such a lame villian? she wasnt given much time to shine tbh. her goal was to take all "her" chakra back from everyone. i think she was pissed that her children were born with it, and that it was passed down the generations giving others the same power as her(if not in magnitude, at least in similarity) she believed it was hers, like a selfish child who wont share his prize toy with anyone. she messed with the wrong crew, thats for sure. Team 7 put her down in what seemed like the blink of an eye.

ill stop there for now...worked hard on this...would love to hear some good feedback.
thanks for reading, hope you enjoyed. :)
 

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To be honest I haven't been this excited about naruto in a while just the anticipation of what's coming is killing me. Naruto having conviction in his heart is great but the fact that now he's going to be fighting with the yin kuruma is genius. One thing SO6P said that I like was he choose naruto solely because he converted the beast of hatred so this means the reason why minato got along with the other half was because yin kuruma was full of love so he didn't have to do as much like Naruto did, so is he going to show a different power with yin kuruma or we are just going to see a boring thriller of susano vs humaniod.
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The Genjustu was suck a f*cking tease, I mean since shes in the movie we knew it wasnt anything serious but still. and whats with Naruto's "we used to fight here alot"

n*gga, yall fought there once.

Was lame considering we had to wait 2 weeks but whatevs, next week will be dope.....hopefully.
The movies don't tie into the show/manga. Major characters can be killed, come back, and be present for most of a movie even though they've been dead for hundreds of chapters in the manga.

What makes you think this movie will be any different?
 

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The movies don't tie into the show/manga. Major characters can be killed, come back, and be present for most of a movie even though they've been dead for hundreds of chapters in the manga.

What makes you think this movie will be any different?
The last movie is canon. So if a character is in the movie, we can be sure that he's gonna be alive.
Even the movies that werent canon, the characters who were already dead didnt come back to life solely for the movie.
 

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Hopefully while minato was a host he left some of his chakra with the yin kyubi and kushina as well. To me kishimoto just hasn't solved some of the counter moves when it comes to naruto, in the past naruto has been able to escape just by his enemies giving up after a change of heart or getting help of some sort but now sasuke is well developed and they are fighting alone 1 on 1 sasuke has edge naruto on speed unless naruto now has FTG, naruto wind abilty is wack, but naruto did show improvement some, forming rasengan with one hand and forming all kinds of elemental rasengan that's not enough in my opinion
 

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Hopefully while minato was a host he left some of his chakra with the yin kyubi and kushina as well. To me kishimoto just hasn't solved some of the counter moves when it comes to naruto, in the past naruto has been able to escape just by his enemies giving up after a change of heart or getting help of some sort but now sasuke is well developed and they are fighting alone 1 on 1 sasuke has edge naruto on speed unless naruto now has FTG, naruto wind abilty is wack, but naruto did show improvement some, forming rasengan with one hand and forming all kinds of elemental rasengan that's not enough in my opinion
Are you done fanboying Sasuke?

I almost flipped when I read that Sasuke has edge in speed over Naruto. Didnt you read the last chapter? Both Naruto and Sasuke reach the Final Valley at the same time and remember that Naruto was in base. Sasuke doesnt have any more forms, while Naruto in base who was equal in speed with Sasuke, has KCM, BM, Sage mode and SO6P's Sage mode. And you have the balls to say that Sasuke edges Naruto in speed?

And Naruto has all kinds of Chakra nature, not just Wind. he can form every elemental Rasengan. He's just too strong for your puny little Sasuke.

Sorry, Sasuke's getting a beating. You know the reason why Sasuke didnt actually stab Sakura? It was because he was scared of Naruto.
 

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I wish sasuke actually killed sakura, i guess naruto probably could have healed her but if he actually cut out her heart that would have been perfect!
I wonder if the S06P brother will be discussed or appear in the last second or something, I still wonder what happened to him.
 

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I wish sasuke actually killed sakura, i guess naruto probably could have healed her but if he actually cut out her heart that would have been perfect!
I wonder if the S06P brother will be discussed or appear in the last second or something, I still wonder what happened to him.
I think he might appear. I donty know but he's been one character whom Kishi hasnt put any emphasis on. He might appear at the end of the manga.
 
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