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So what are you trying to say here exactly? They are faster than Sasori and his puppets? Are you really going to ignore how the 3rd Kazekage puppet literally fought them to a draw in a 2v1 moments later? The only thing I can take away is that they are faster than the *retraction* speed of the...

Not particularly IMO. It’s fair to count the summons as part of their total arsenal and abilities, but it’s not particularly impressive on the part of the user (depending on how it’s used). It’s not like Kakashi has any control over the speed and power of the summons, he just needs enough chakra...

Kakashi had the harder objective. - has to protect the bridge builder - has to protect the kids - was technically ambushed (Zabuza sort of wasted that advantage) but I’d say Zabuza has the more impressive combat showing overall. + Hidden Mist style is actually incredibly effective + Zabuza...

I mean, I probably like Chiyo and her puppets more than the next guy but I don’t see how this is a fair match. Chiyo herself would probably do better. Bringing the puppets to life is cool and all but I don’t see how you can rank them anywhere near as impressive as a high Kage level ninja of...

Kisame has no counter to multiple Edo Tensei summons. Orochimaru frankly has better scaling regardless, even when his chakra and jutsu were sealed away. Not to mention stuff like his 8 Branches and White Snake body which would eventually come out to wreck Kisame. Orochimaru doesn't even have to...

Choji's mistaken opinion on who he thinks he can and cannot fight are irrelevant. Especially when he's proven wrong like you so kindly pointed out with your gif. Choji ran from the Asura Path because it was shooting a missile at him. He hid from Kakuzu's AoE as well. Not to mention the context...

lol, I don't think posting a gif of Choji getting absolutely casually wrecked by Kakuzu is evidence for Choji being on Kakuzu's level. Kakuzu could tank swipes from the fully transformed 2-Tail Jinchuriki. Even if the Asura Path has the damage output to actually hurt him, it's very unlikely he...

Eh, I don't think Danzo was a poor fighter - he just got robbed because obviously he wasn't ever going to be allowed to win against Sasuke. But if you break down the fight, you'll notice that the only reason Sasuke was able to kill Danzo was because Sasuke had (at the time) extremely overpowered...

Oh come on, Mizuki was literally only in the one episode (well, until that other filler later), lol he barely counts Zabuza was the first serious, relatively powerful villain for all of the main cast (Sasuke, Sakura, & Kakashi). I was highlighting how Zabuza came from a really early point in the...

No, nor do I think he could but that wasn't my point. My point was that the bird doesn't have an overwhelming range advantage due to flight because neither the 3rd Kazekage nor the Iron Sand are limited to a short range - in other words, Sasori has a very large effective range of offense/defense...

I think you misunderstood, I don't think Zabuza is weak. In fact I think he's highly underrated. I think people use the scaling to say Zabuza is weak because he was the first villain and "lost" to Kakashi and Team 7 before they got much stronger in the later arcs. My point is that trying to do...

Gozu and Meizu are actual fodder no matter how you look at it. They are kind of irrelevant. Haku is cool and all but his only reasonable claim to power is his ice mirrors but... Well basically none of those 3 even showed off the power to get through Hiruko. Haku's senbon just aren't going to...

Of course it matters you dunce. Hinata isn't stronger than Pain just because she could hypothetically stop him with a single blow. If Sakura is incapable of landing a winning attack on her own then she is incapable of winning, ergo she's not 'stronger' than him. Frankly I'm pretty sure you're...

The explosions counter the regular puppets, sure. They don't counter Iron Sand. Deidara's strongest attacks can probably can get through Satetsu but... that's assuming Deidara actually has a chance to do it (which he very well might if he gains enough range). Not to mention Sasori has way more...

Well to start let's look at what the giant bird can do and how it could actually win vs Sasori: 1. It's a really big and strong bird so it can... I dunno, try and crash into Sasori with its beak or whatever. 2. It can apparently drop some sort of explosives? They aren't incredibly impressive...

Ah yes, a random gif of Sakura punching Sasori. Completely invalidates my argument, you're right. Totally fair point, of course we can ignore literally everything else that happened in the fight. I concede. /s A: I never denied Sakura can punch really hard. B: Sakura on her own was incapable...

A few points: Point 1. Sasori was not having difficulty with defeating Sakura. Sasori was having a ""difficult"" time against Chiyo. - Sasori literally blitz'd Sakura a handful of times with extremely casual attacks that Chiyo had to save her from. Sakura would be incapable of dodging Hiruko's...