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okay.. bt the fact that a sharingan genjutsu can affect a rinnengan user just makes the rinnengan seem weak

so does that mean itachi can beat nagato??

lemme make this simpler.. would itachi's genjutsu work on nagato??

its never been done.. a sharingan user fighting a rinnengan user... this all came up while contemplating an itachi VS nagato fight hahahahha

i would believe that since rinnengan is a higher stage of ocular power than the sharingan then the sharingan's genjutsu shouldnt affect the rinnengan user... plus its important to note that jman's sound genjutsu is a very high level genjutsu

For a while now i have had the idea that only sound genjutsu (jman's toad genjutsu) can work on rinnengan users... is that true?? and if not can sharingan genjutsu and other forms work on rinnengan users??

u didnt have to be so rude... i thought abt that... they still have to fight again.. i think this is when madara leaves the uchiha and they for the village

i believe the 1st gave his life for the village... its something u would expect him to do

if he did die there.. that means hashi is undoubtedly the greatest hero of the hidden leaf

so maybe i am right :D.... thread not failed as yet...

rele??? i forgot that.. thread fail then

I think most of u guys have thought of this already bt i just wanted to get it out there... at the end of the last manga we saw hashi in a dilemma... kill himself or kill his brother?? and thus i think that hashi died then and there.. he sacrificed himself for the village's sake.. this is a...

kamui has never been used on susano.. they are both sharingan based jutsus so as far as we can tell they dont affect each other

minato can counteract it too

what if his finger gets burnt with ameratsue b4 it makes contact.. raikage doesnt have the strongest defence

let me make this simpler.. if these 3 guys had to fight the 10 tails who would survive?? or last longer?? they are just standing there taking attacks.. who would last longer??

bt kakashi has already found out its weakness..

we already know gaara sand is stronger

ask yourself.. has any of these ever been penetrated?? or has their weaknesses been identified.. give itachi a break lets say he is in edo

1. Gaara's shikaku ultimate defence (or the thing with him mom) 2. Itachi susano's yata mirror 3. Madara's ultimate susano which is the strongest.. sry if i forgot any.. ill go with itachi susano's yata mirror.. cuz gaara's sand can be slow.. and madara's susano took some hits from raikage...