SM Jiraiya vs Kakuzu

[silmarill]

Jiraiya his super rasengan was said to hollow out an ENTIRE mountain in databook
He rapes Kakuzo really...

 

[PretaPath]

wtf, why so many Kakuzu fanboys?

Jiraya low-mid diff...

Why so many idiots underestimating Kakuzu?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Writing a big paragraph doesn't change that Jiraiya's was superior, and since you're admitting right here that Jiraiya's strength feat was superior to Domu's, then I won the argument. That's the end of that one.

I think your anger and frustration determines how you want to read my post. Why are you so stress out over this. You come at me for not reading carefully and yet you come and change my words claiming that I said J-man breaks Domu? When my main point of the arguments is to show that physically J-man can't do it to Domu. J-man and needs frog song to disrupt the activation of this defense. Here let me shorten it for you see you have a problem with reading a paragraph (This was in the last sentence):" J man attempting to clash strength with Domu activate results to J man losing in Strength". Let me seprate the sentense for you since it became a paragraph:

" J man attempting to clash strength with Domu activate results to J man losing in Strength "


So in order to counter Jiraiya's incredible speed, you post a scan of Shikamaru(2.5 speed again FTR) REACTING to Kakuzu's "attempted" blitz,
This was exactly a page under strength, try reading post again
then when called out on that not actually being superior, you try and claim you just posted that scan "for the lulz" or for no actual reason since it has literally no relevance.
I'm gonna help you out again, try reading what section I post the image at

Lol, the scan of a kid with 2.5 speed reacting to Kakuzu's attempt at a punch proves he has better reaction than pain paths in which with half chakra can easily dodge FRS?
The scan was to show Kakuzu using Domu's physical attack (It was still under strength section), hardening his body makes him take J-man in a result of strength

Please don't tell me you're actually denying this. You even said the name of the thread in this post. Right.
Does not make sense: You can bump up the thread if you like. We both already conclude Kakuzu dies 1/5 from there/
Who else is relevant here but Hidan,
Hidan is relevant because I decided to go with the underdog of this thread?
Kakuzu doesn't exactly have all that many relations that could hint at you massively being biased towards a particular group.
Show me where I said/ show scan in my post (AFTER RE READING MY POST)

And you sound a little desperate to defend your points but hey that was already established that Jiraiya's are quite obviously superior based solely on just looking at them.If you were paying close attention to them why are you posting vastly inferior scans and pretending like they matter? It's very obvious with that said you're blatantly ignoring the truth to back up Kakuzu who may or may not be your favorite character, regardless. I only needed those 3 scans to turn any argument you could possibly form around those 3 categories useless, and I've been proven right, those 3 scans still stand completely legitimate and unscathed. Kakuzu simply can't compare.

This is like Sasuke vs Danzo they both have something that is superior to reach other and it now determines how they could use it.
-You still have no counter for Domu. Breaking through his defense first shows what kakuzu plans to do next.

actually when a match up has an obvious winner like this one, there is no need for a debate. kakuzu has nothing to be even compared to jiraiya in a match up (pointless) and in SM the j-man surpasses him in every aspect (you should already know this from reading/watching the series) so what were you even debating about ?? well .... its all good bro. HAPPY NEW YEAR

I'm sorry I didn't know they were up in stage trying to impress the audience what they can do better then one another (I hope you get it).

I recently made thread that if Jiraiya can beat Susano'o.
The most of people said he can (lower version but he can) and I think Susano'o > Domu no jutsu
So in my opinion, Jiraiya can break Kakuzu's domu.
Even Jiraiya has better speed, strength and Taijutsu in the base. In SM, all those stats are dramatically increased, so Jiraiya after active SM has speed and reflexes similar to Raikage, strength as Tsunade and Taijutsu on the same level or better than Gai..

Comparing Susano's defence is useless. Sasnano has better attack feats but no where was it stated to be as hard as diamond Sasuno is breakable with good physical strength, as for Domu you don't use physical strength to bypass this type of defense. Since people like to jump the boat just because "it's Kakuzu". Imagine trying to break Enma

 

[Joki]

I think your anger and frustration determines how you want to read my post. Why are you so stress out over this. You come at me for not reading carefully and yet you come and change my words claiming that I said J-man breaks Domu? When my main point of the arguments is to show that physically J-man can't do it to Domu. J-man and needs frog song to disrupt the activation of this defense. Here let me shorten it for you see you have a problem with reading a paragraph (This was in the last sentence):" J man attempting to clash strength with Domu activate results to J man losing in Strength". Let me seprate the sentense for you since it became a paragraph:

I don't know why you're ranting unrelated stuff for an entire paragraph, it doesn't sound like I'm very stressed out over this in comparison.

" J man attempting to clash strength with Domu activate results to J man losing in Strength

Still more than enough to your own admission yet again.

This was exactly a page under strength, try reading post again

Then don't spam irrelevant scans, that didn't actually exist or else you'd have posted it.

The scan was to show Kakuzu using Domu's physical attack (It was still under strength section), hardening his body makes him take J-man in a result of strength

Based on what? That you want Kakuzu to win with this wild fanfic idea?

Does not make sense: You can bump up the thread if you like. We both already conclude Kakuzu dies 1/5 from there/

Oh alright cool, I didn't know you admitted defeat and that Kakuzu actually lost that match, now I know.

This is like Sasuke vs Danzo they both have something that is superior to reach other and it now determines how they could use it.
-You still have no counter for Domu. Breaking through his defense first shows what kakuzu plans to do next.

Likewise, you have no counter for...literally every tech and statistic in Jiraiya's arsenal. In fact you admitted Jiraiya has far superior speed, strength and reflexes given the above. Your argument was reduced to basically nothing by those 3 scans, do you honestly read your posts and feel that it actually proved those 3 scans wrong, because they actually happened in the manga so I sure hope not.

Kakuzu also has no way to put Jiraiya down at all, I don't know where you got the crazy idea that Jiraiya simply "not breaking through Domu" equals Kakuzu beating Jiraiya.

 

[Fanta]

Why so many idiots underestimating Kakuzu?

oh am I?

from what I read, Naruto without sage mode was able to take out Kakuzu's body and 1 extra heart low diff.

TenTen was also able to take out 2 of his hearts as well...

What makes you think it will be hard for Jiraya who put up a great fight agaisnt 6POP?

Jiraya wins high diff w/o sage mode. Sage mode becomes an unfair stomp

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I don't know why you're ranting unrelated stuff for an entire paragraph, it doesn't sound like I'm very stressed out over this in comparison.


Still more than enough to your own admission yet again.
You obvious being a whiny ***** if you still want to read j man breaking Domu in my sentence. its obvious that you have no counter which results for you to continue repeating yourself

How about you admit J man can't break Domu Domu

Then don't spam irrelevant scans, that didn't actually exist or else you'd have posted it.
Seriously what the hell you are talking about? What I post was actually chapters in the actual manga do you need page reference with it?

Based on what? That you want Kakuzu to win with this wild fanfic idea?

Oh alright cool, I didn't know you admitted defeat and that Kakuzu actually lost that match, now I know.
You are so hard headed (makes sense since that you dodge the Kakuzu>Kisame thread after)

Likewise, you have no counter for...literally every tech and statistic in Jiraiya's arsenal. In fact you admitted Jiraiya has far superior speed, strength and reflexes given the above. Your argument was reduced to basically nothing by those 3 scans, do you honestly read your posts and feel that it actually proved those 3 scans wrong, because they actually happened in the manga so I sure hope not.
Because you ignore Kakuzu's feats makes him "far superior" LOL. This is all you all you got. Lets bring on other examples in how you are arguing: SM J-man is far superior in strength to Madara because Madara can't punch a summon 30 meters, therefore SM j man wins. And Btw why don't you say anything about J-man reaction to this:

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Ma's response upset/disappointed:

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Kakuzu also has no way to put Jiraiya down at all, I don't know where you got the crazy idea that Jiraiya simply "not breaking through Domu" equals Kakuzu beating Jiraiya.

-Kakuzu has wide radius of elemental bazooka's, that can come from different direction. Jingou will be a problem too. Taking out 5 hearts is not a simple task, Kakuzu will soon take his heart, with this.

-Not breaking Domu protects Kakuzu's 5 hearts (hearts have a safe base), J-mans raw strength will not deal damage to Domu Domu, without frog song, he has nothing in his arsenal to break it, deal with it

 

[PretaPath]

-Kakuzu has wide radius of elemental bazooka's, that can come from different direction. Jingou will be a problem too. Taking out 5 hearts is not a simple task, Kakuzu will soon take his heart, with this.

-Not breaking Domu protects Kakuzu's 5 hearts (hearts have a safe base), J-mans raw strength will not deal damage to Domu Domu, without frog song, he has nothing in his arsenal to break it, deal with it

I agree + rep.

 

[Fanta]

-Kakuzu has wide radius of elemental bazooka's, that can come from different direction. Jingou will be a problem too. Taking out 5 hearts is not a simple task, Kakuzu will soon take his heart, with this.

-Not breaking Domu protects Kakuzu's 5 hearts (hearts have a safe base), J-mans raw strength will not deal damage to Domu Domu, without frog song, he has nothing in his arsenal to break it, deal with it

Kakuzu's counter for this?

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[Steinbiz]

Is this a serious thread. SM not required.........

Jiraiya curb stomps if he's in SM.

You people underrate sage mode so much it's disturbing.

Jiraiya can defeat BOTH Kakuzu and Hidan without SM. That's why this thread fails.

 

[PretaPath]

Is this a serious thread. SM not required.........

Jiraiya curb stomps if he's in SM.

You people underrate sage mode so much it's disturbing.

His sage mode isnt as strong as Naruto's.

 

[Fanta]

His sage mode isnt as strong as Naruto's.

your point is?

Go reread his fight against 6POP..

Kakuzu gets stomped low diff at best

 

[PretaPath]

your point is?

Go reread his fight against 6POP..

Kakuzu gets stomped low diff at best

My point is sage mode will be no use here. Physical attacks? Won't do shit to Kakuzu.
Rasengan? It's useless as long as it's not raiton.

Kakuzu wins low-mid diff.

 

[Fanta]

My point is sage mode will be no use here. Physical attacks? Won't do shit to Kakuzu.
Rasengan? It's useless as long as it's not raiton.

Kakuzu wins low-mid diff.

How does he tank Massive rasengan...?

he gets swirled apart and made into crumbs.

 

[PretaPath]

How does he tank Massive rasengan...?

he gets swirled apart and made into crumbs.

It's a chakra based attack, there's no element in it, Domu would tank it rather easily

 

[Fanta]

It's a chakra based attack, there's no element in it, Domu would tank it rather easily

you must be mad..

proof of this?

 

[PretaPath]

you must be mad..

proof of this?

I'm perfectly alright, however you seem mad that most people know Kakuzu would rape Jiraiya.

 

[Fanta]

I'm perfectly alright, however you seem mad that most people know Kakuzu would rape Jiraiya.

/case closed due to unprovided evidence

so many Kakuzu fanboys it's not even funny..

 

[PretaPath]

/case closed due to unprovided evidence

so many Kakuzu fanboys it's not even funny..

Proofs have been shown already. Now can you prove how Jiraiya would beat Kakuzu? Probably not.
Didn't you read my reply on the other thread about you and your fanboy obsession? I'm sure not, so I suggest you go take a look at it and stop making a fool out of yourself.

 

[Fanta]

Proofs have been shown already. Now can you prove how Jiraiya would beat Kakuzu? Probably not.
Didn't you read my reply on the other thread about you and your fanboy obsession? I'm sure not, so I suggest you go take a look at it and stop making a fool out of yourself.

you just got mad and said Kakuzu defeats him..

show me that Kakuzu can tank a massive rasengan

 

[PretaPath]

you just got mad and said Kakuzu defeats him..

show me that Kakuzu can tank a massive rasengan

Can't you read? I told you to show me how he can kill Kakuzu.
Show me the manga page where oodama rasengan destroy Domu. You just can't