"Kabuto can't use Edo Madara?" Don't be stupid to think Madara isn't Kabuto's Bit**!

[AirYeezy]

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nice thread

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

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For what ever reason People believe Kabuto isn't number 1 because "Madara can break Edo". -___- Let me school the noobs with Facts!

There is a misconception (because noobs dont read the manga) that Kabuto cannot use Madara as an edo, but that is entirely False and has been proven that he can already!

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As you can see here Madara Uchiha has indeed been Summoned Via Edo and is in fact staring his partner OBITO/TOBI in the face and is 100% fully controlled! My question is if "He can Break Edo",why didnt he break it here??? Why didnt he do anything for that matter? Ill explain why!

There are 2 different Talisman Too use when fully controlling Edo Tensei!

Orus version:

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Which makes them Obidient Killing Machines. But by doing this they lose their train of thought too execute strategies the way they would if they were "alive", in other words they are mindless puppets!

Kabutos version:

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Kabuto's version makes them keep their personality and mind in tact, which in turn allows them too utilize there powers 100% as if they were alive! But by doing it like this the summons pose a chance of getting talked into losing their souls like Sais brother and Sasori.

Those are the major difference. But!... Kabuto can use both methods any given moment! =) This is what makes him better then Oru!

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As you can see, all he has too do is make a hand sign to turn you "Off" so to speak.

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Kabuto can fully control his summons any time he please! Thus eliminating their mind completely and also using them like a "toy" one could say. Madara is no different then the others. The only reason Madara Was able too do what he did is because Kabuto Allowed him too because he wanted too see the true power of Madara Uchiha!

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As you can see he allowed madara too do what ever he pleased! And he and madara is on the same side as well Btw.
Madara was only able too break free from Edo tensei because Kabuto was out of commission and couldn't control any one for that matter because of IZANAMI!

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And as you can see here, it took him a short while too break the contract, but it takes kabuto less then a second too completely Bind you! So in other words, If kabuto was using madara and aware of the fact he was trying too break edo or might, he simply makes the

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He can instantly Unsummon them at the drop of a dime and time he please!

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So Please SHUT THE FUQ UP ABOUT HOW "MADARA CAN BREAK EDO"! Its a fact that kabuto doesnt even have too keep there personality in tact, can turn them "off", and can unsummon them almost instantly! Plus the fact that, they are on the same team and Madara agreed too work with him testing his new powers. Only against Obito would Madara even want to "break Edo" because they are on the same team. Against any other ninja, madara would work with kabuto!

There is no such thing as Edo Madara! He is a product of kabuto and nothing more! Fact of the manga!​

+ rep he left the minds of people intact so he can mess with his opponents psychologically.He let madara go because he was more useful that way plus at that time he had everything he needed to fight against the sharingan.Though he did end up underestimating him as madara previously stated this was not his power and proved it by releasing himself.This would of not transpired if the talisman was used to subdue him.

 

[killerman82]

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Agreed

 

[apple pie of doom]

Re: "Kabuto can't use Edo Madara?" Don't be stupid to think Madara isn't Kabuto's Bi

Kabuto is not the best at all.

I do not count summoning jutsus such as edo tensei to be fitting on a 1 vs 1 duel.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

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For what ever reason People believe Kabuto isn't number 1 because "Madara can break Edo". -___- Let me school the noobs with Facts!

There is a misconception (because noobs dont read the manga) that Kabuto cannot use Madara as an edo, but that is entirely False and has been proven that he can already!

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As you can see here Madara Uchiha has indeed been Summoned Via Edo and is in fact staring his partner OBITO/TOBI in the face and is 100% fully controlled! My question is if "He can Break Edo",why didnt he break it here??? Why didnt he do anything for that matter? Ill explain why!

There are 2 different Talisman Too use when fully controlling Edo Tensei!

Orus version:

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Which makes them Obidient Killing Machines. But by doing this they lose their train of thought too execute strategies the way they would if they were "alive", in other words they are mindless puppets!

Kabutos version:

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Kabuto's version makes them keep their personality and mind in tact, which in turn allows them too utilize there powers 100% as if they were alive! But by doing it like this the summons pose a chance of getting talked into losing their souls like Sais brother and Sasori.

Those are the major difference. But!... Kabuto can use both methods any given moment! =) This is what makes him better then Oru!

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As you can see, all he has too do is make a hand sign to turn you "Off" so to speak.

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Kabuto can fully control his summons any time he please! Thus eliminating their mind completely and also using them like a "toy" one could say. Madara is no different then the others. The only reason Madara Was able too do what he did is because Kabuto Allowed him too because he wanted too see the true power of Madara Uchiha!

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As you can see he allowed madara too do what ever he pleased! And he and madara is on the same side as well Btw.
Madara was only able too break free from Edo tensei because Kabuto was out of commission and couldn't control any one for that matter because of IZANAMI!

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And as you can see here, it took him a short while too break the contract, but it takes kabuto less then a second too completely Bind you! So in other words, If kabuto was using madara and aware of the fact he was trying too break edo or might, he simply makes the

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Also!
He can instantly Unsummon them at the drop of a dime and time he please!

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So Please SHUT THE FUQ UP ABOUT HOW "MADARA CAN BREAK EDO"! Its a fact that kabuto doesnt even have too keep there personality in tact, can turn them "off", and can unsummon them almost instantly! Plus the fact that, they are on the same team and Madara agreed too work with him testing his new powers. Only against Obito would Madara even want to "break Edo" because they are on the same team. Against any other ninja, madara would work with kabuto!

There is no such thing as Edo Madara! He is a product of kabuto and nothing more! Fact of the manga!​

I agree with you in arguing about Kabuto in his prime, that Madara should be accounted for.

Of course now at the moment, Madara is free and will never come back under Kabuto's control. But rep for actually making a thread about what I've been trying to tell a few people.

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

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im tired of the talk on both sides...i hope something makes kabuto come out of his loop right now and then everybody will see if madara gets bounded or not....geez

 

[shinobu sensui]

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You're the one that must not read the manga, madara could break free from kabuto at any time.

 

[Zato]

Re: "Kabuto can't use Edo Madara?" Don't be stupid to think Madara isn't Kabuto's Bi

I'm pretty sure Madara can only break it if he performs the hand seals to rewrite his own Edo contract. This is all situational though. If Kabuto fully controls him out the gate then there is nothing he can do. If Kabuto allows him to use a % of himself then there is a good chance that he will break it. Madara didn't see Kabuto as a enemy so I don't think he really had a need to try and break the control when he didn't know if he was being controlled in the first place.

The reason why Kabuto had to be controlled to stop the Edo Tensei is because he is the caster. They are bounded to him. Madara knew the seals to break the contract with the user(Kabuto) and make him self free. This means that he can break the Edo Tensei. The only way he cannot is if he was being 100% controlled from the gate.

Anyway, Madara clearly states that he broke the "contract" with the caster of the Edo Tensei. This means that Kabuto(contract) had no control over Madara's body and mind anymore. Madara basically created a new contract by performing the Edo Tensei hand seals allowing him to break any hold Kabuto had over thus allowing him to stay in the living world because Kabuto(being controlled by Itachi) ordered the Edo Tensei to end.

Aslo, Kabuto already hinted at Madara possibly knowing the hand seals to Edo Tensei. He wasn't sure but it crossed his mind. Thus why he made that statement to Itachi about if he stopped Kabuto then he may not be able to stop someone else. The point I'm making is that he still let him roam free because he wanted Madara to prove something to him. Now WHY would he do that if he could control Madara from the get go? Remember, Kabuto was shocked that Madara had the Rinnegan which mean he never gave Madara a test drive for some unknown reason... If he suspected Madara had the Rinnegan then why didn't he test out his powers to find out that and Hashirama's powers?

 

[Draegod]

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Logical thread once again, nice work Draegod, you're the new DrProof xd.

Lmao Never be like Dr. Who! I dont beg too be liked or crave attention!

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Debatable; thematically, abutment was Masashi's primary focused in this battle.​

True it would be a good fight. That was just my way of saying Kabuto will win more often then lose 7/10 with out edo. With Edo its 20/10 kabuto's way. lol

Don't compare that muppet to Draegod. Draegod's been providing good arguments and manga facts way before him, plus he brings the Uchihatards back down to Earth. xd

Thanks man! lmao

 

[Draphsin]

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It's no wonder why Kabuto never tried to resurrect the Uchiha Clan. He couldn't even handle the two he summoned.

LMAO This ^ but in all seriousness, kabuto f***'d up by not fully controlling madara, that was the reason he was able to break free. Oh and if madara was fully controlled then it would be another nagato situation where the fight would only last about 2 chapters (point being, kabuto cant harness the rinnegan the way madara/nagato can, FACT).

 

[Guildmage]

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Actually madara just broke out of it, because in the moment genjutued kabuto released edo tensei, all edos were allowed to move at free will (proof: dan when he used his technique freely). Madara happened to be the same case as Dan Kato, he recovered his movement at own will, this way allowing him to release the seal from edo and gaining back his freedom (Madara)

So yes, Madara is Kabuto's b**** unless somebody takes kabuto down and allows madara to release the seal of edo, until then, he is a subordinate of kabuto.

Don't flame me madara fans, but this is a fact.

 

[Draphsin]

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Actually madara just broke out of it, because in the moment genjutued kabuto released edo tensei, all edos were allowed to move at free will (proof: dan when he used his technique freely). Madara happened to be the same case as Dan Kato, he recovered his movement at own will, this way allowing him to release the seal from edo and gaining back his freedom (Madara)

So yes, Madara is Kabuto's b**** unless somebody takes kabuto down and allows madara to release the seal of edo, until then, he is a subordinate of kabuto.

Don't flame me madara fans, but this is a fact.

No this is not true there have been many occasions where the edos were able to use techniques on their own free will. Madara chose that time to release himself because he was gonna go back to the pure world and ofc he wouldnt want that. Madara was able to break free at literally any time as soon as he was given consciousness because kabuto didnt fully control him, and even if he did the fight would be over in an instant because...kabuto sucks at using the rinnegan.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

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Nice thread man i agree completely. Kabuto haters will deny it but its blatanly obvious that its true.

Draegod actually provides good arguments and manga evidence. DrProof was a theory buff and highly overrated.

It's actually a bit funny though how Dr.Proof was banned. Overall all he was though was in essence an attention *****.

But like I said, this thread is pretty much pointless. Kabuto is out of operation, and Madara is a free man.

I cant tell if you honestly hate Kabuto that much or are just trolling. Kabuto didn't have intent to kill Sasuke, and Itachi was an edo with unlimited chakra. If Itachi wasn't an edo he would have been killed by Kabuto. Re-read the fight and realize that if was alive Itachi vs SM Kabuto, Kabuto would have won.

Not only that but Itachi being an edo saved Sasukes ass too. Sorry man, face the facts. Kabuto > Itachi. He is perfectly suited for fighting a sharingan user like Itachi.

 

[jm2oo9]

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Haha lets put it this way Kabuto already knew about edo tensei weakness but told everyone else there was none...now remember back to when he started his fight with itachi he warned itachi that if he was impatient he might be unable to stop..even things that could be stop and cause the opposite to happen" manga chapter 578 and kabuto noted him self that he was able to even use the itahia sharigan and pains rinnigan ...with oro chakra it help him utilize edo Tensei to its fullest witch meant Madara was kabuto little toy on the field ...kabuto is rank #6 in my favorite even before the war..oh and a side note binding them completely dose not mean they cant fight or utilize there moves correctly he did that on purpose so it would mess with the heads of the ninja's who knew some of the dead..and he could not bind them all at once..he said im just gonna collect data from this war..when he took complete control of the A's father he was able to use his ultimate move..sames goes for oro when he summed the first he was able to use the wood style

 

[Kumomi]

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Haha I actually skipped that part of the manga, and just automatically assumed that Madara truly broke Edo because everyone and their mother said so. I guess won't do THAT again! Great find and plus rep!

 

[sorablade33]

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Lol, yes I think it's known that Kabuto could have controlled Uchiha Madara as he's controlled Itachi before he broke out of the spell via genjutsu. Though it probably would have been considerably more difficult.

Or he could have locked away Madara's personality and free will with the talisman that also subdued the legendary Hashirama and Tobirama.

Either way, Kabuto isn't using his own technique. He's using a technique that was pioneered by the Second Hokage and Orochimaru. He's also using Orochimaru's powers in the first place. He's pretty much simply a leech who never forged his own legacy.

Furthermore, Kabuto is no longer relevant; he's more or less out of commission at this point and presumably powerless. Let's please end the argument and cliche that "Kabuto is the greatest of all time." Because he isn't, period.

I agree buddy. Kabuto couldn't even handle itachi. He was using borrowed power from orochimaru. And even ms madara before he became edo can take on sage kabuto. Also even before they are fully controlled by the user of edo the summons have their memories etc. The talismans are just used for more control. Marra would have broken the technique no matter what it was only a matter of time.

 

[zeuspater]

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maybe , you're right

 

[maddog38]

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Kabuto wanted to see the true power of Madara? I guess he would be a bit too bunny-hearted for this action. Besides, if I'm not wrong, as I'm a newb, Itachi owned Kabuto implementing izanasomething, so do us a favour, don't commit the mistake all the smarties make, stop thinking that you're the one who knows everything.

 

[Kurushimi Mugen]

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you don't even listen to what other people are saying and just spout your opinion in their face like you are right. YOU ASKED "why didn't madara break free from the edo when kabuto summoned the coffins?" and based your entire thesis on that question but then when people answer the question you dont even take the time to realize they are doing what you asked. Now so to answer your question, its because madara hadn't been activated, you see the eyes change when the jutsu is complete and the when the desired strength is applied. so he couldnt break the edo because his body was still just an empty doll, with an incomplete jutsu..

You just proved my point! =) He gives them the option! **Case Closed**



lmao why would he want too revive scrubs???? Only Itachi, madara, and shisu was worthy too even be mentioned! Others are scrubs (except Izuna)! lmao

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

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lmao Expected nothing less from you! I wont even bother trying too persuade you, because you ignore all facts and except what you want too except.

Madara >>>>> Kabutos Edo Control
Itachi >>>>> Kabutos Edo Control

Whatever the circumstance or details, TWO Uchihas were able to break free of being Edo Controlled.

Therefore

Uchihas >>>>> Kabutos Edo Control