The End All Debate on the SO6P

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Soo you're saying that IF there's at least one hole in your theory THEN you're completely wrong.
WELL my friend let me tellyou something about Karin. . . . . . . . . Itts a secret so don't tell anyone. . . . . . . . . (Whisper iin your ear) Kari isn't an Uzumaki its never even been hinted. . . . . . . . Aaaand guess what else. . . . . Your argument is invalid
 

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Well I wouldnt say that. He has Uzumaki blood, it would be unfair to label him as only a namikaze

Pretty much it's supposed to mirror the Uchiha/Senju rivalry, but Naruto is an uzumaki, so kishi gave him only the Yang chakra of the kyuubi, which is the same as the senju's body which makes it Uchiha/Psudo-Senju rivalry.
 

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I have only one thing to say, look at Nagatos flashback when he show how jiraya teach them ninjutsu, there you can see that nagato make a futon jutsu, so its bullsh...t that uzumakis cant use ninjtsus.

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Its stated in the Manga douring the fight between itachi, sasuke vs. Kabuto, that Karin is a Uzumaki
 
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Yes, yes, yes!! Thank you. I know you dont agree with me. But at least you see this notion that the Senju and Uchiha are all that hail from the Sage just doesnt seem to be factual.

how could SO6P master rennigan better than nagato that quickly i dont think that is possible
 

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*couch* *cough* gtfo with that wiki sh*t! show me in the manga wher gai uses ninjutsu....every one of his jutsus are based off of taijutsu....and it takes blood to do a summon and even if it did take chakra you still didn't counter my point because gai definitely doesn't have strong chakra...he barely has any at all

haha ... Then why couldnt naruto summon frogs at start ... It needs chakra... u are a dumba** ... coz gai has a 3 in ninjutsu and genjutsu
 

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Soo you're saying that IF there's at least one hole in your theory THEN you're completely wrong.
WELL my friend let me tellyou something about Karin. . . . . . . . . Itts a secret so don't tell anyone. . . . . . . . . (Whisper iin your ear) Kari isn't an Uzumaki its never even been hinted. . . . . . . . Aaaand guess what else. . . . . Your argument is invalid

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I have only one thing to say, look at Nagatos flashback when he show how jiraya teach them ninjutsu, there you can see that nagato make a futon jutsu, so its bullsh...t that uzumakis cant use ninjtsus.

Umm u never accept that
 
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Re: SO6p WAS An uzumaki..

hey so i dont believe that so6ps was in fact uzimaki, i believe you about the power distribution with eyes and powerfull body, also i dont think the sage had rennigon before fight with juubi i belevie he was a powerfull sealer type ninja with his tools sealed away juubi inside him and from that gains rennigon because hosts of tailed beasts can gain certain traits from there beasts inside and this is how he gain rennigon, uzimaki are decendents of senju says in magna so i say good job needs work 3 out 5
 

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show me the manga proof that the so6p didnt have reningan from birth

and not shown in the manga doesnt mean that a person cant do that ... n how many uzumaki are u talking about ?? 2?? n u think whole clan is like those 3

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out of all the pics they showed of him i find it funny how all of them were in the shadow and how they never showed his hair and how they only showed his eyes until after he defeated the juubi and even said he got a dramatic power boost after he sealed the juubi in him....

until shown that a pure uzumaki can do ninjutsu i don't believe it..


haha ... Then why couldnt naruto summon frogs at start ... It needs chakra... u are a dumba** ... coz gai has a 3 in ninjutsu and genjutsu

because he sucked at it dumbass and it takes time to perfect it :sy:
show me where it says gai has a 3 in nin and gin and where he uses chakra in the manga
 

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To start.

You completely failed, when you said they cannot use ninjutsu... So what you said would be that they cannot make a bunshin for instance. It's true they haven't shown any specific chakra affinities, which is probably it. But to say that they can't use ninjutsu is bullshit. You seem to base a lot of your theory on this fact, so it kinda blows...

Regarding the Juubis eye. It is not a rinnengan till Kishi says so. Thus stop making idiotic conclusions on this topic. It might as well be a completely different eye that we haven't heard of yet, and you can't overrule this possibility. So stop it please.

Regarding the seal Naruto "used", it was simply due to the way the seal was made. It is of course a pretty valid evidence that it was invented or used by the so6p, which strongly points towards him being from the uzumaki clan as well.

The sage could use ninjutsu, when he traveled the world as a monk, as Jiraya described it. It is clear that at this time he had rinnengan, since jiraya said that he had the same eyes at nagato, when he did this. You say he didn't teach them, but that is false as the manga says otherwise. You do, however, have an interesting theory about how they became able to use ninjutsu, however, ninjutsu have nothing in common with natural energy. Ninjutsu is a specific way of using chakra, and people didn't suddenly get chakra. They had it all the time. The sage just taught them how to use it.

All in all not a "perfect" theory, and there is too many flaws. We can always take the discussion as for whether they can use nijutsu or not, but what I think is the important factor regarding it, is that they have shown no chakra affinities, except for Naruto of course. You should focus on that instead.

As for last there is one more major flaw. Why don't you discuss or theorize how the rinnengan can be awakened by a person that has no juubi or jinchuriki sealed inside them? This is probably the most important fact that the rinnengan cannot be from the juubi. So unless you somehow make a theory that explains it, your entire thread is pointless.
 

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Soo you're saying that IF there's at least one hole in your theory THEN you're completely wrong.
WELL my friend let me tellyou something about Karin. . . . . . . . . Itts a secret so don't tell anyone. . . . . . . . . (Whisper iin your ear) Kari isn't an Uzumaki its never even been hinted. . . . . . . . Aaaand guess what else. . . . . Your argument is invalid

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Umm honestly bro what i think that makes me think that this theory is wrong is that it will make naruto way too OP .. the sage ... No copition ... N when there is no compition for him then no manga sales
 

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I have only one thing to say, look at Nagatos flashback when he show how jiraya teach them ninjutsu, there you can see that nagato make a futon jutsu, so its bullsh...t that uzumakis cant use ninjtsus.

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Its stated in the Manga douring the fight between itachi, sasuke vs. Kabuto, that Karin is a Uzumaki

Yes, I explained this. He has rinnengan, he can use ninjutsu.
 

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everything seems reasonable but i dont agree that uzumakis cant do ninjutsu...but your point is good
 

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out of all the pics they showed of him i find it funny how all of them were in the shadow and how they never showed his hair and how they only showed his eyes until after he defeated the juubi and even said he got a dramatic power boost after he sealed the juubi in him....

until shown that a pure uzumaki can do ninjutsu i don't believe it..




because he sucked at it dumbass and it takes time to perfect it :sy:
show me where it says gai has a 3 in nin and gin and where he uses chakra in the manga

uggh ... go read the 3rd data book it clearly states that ... u sir are purely f***ed up n have no full knowledge on the subject

N sir when kumara meets so6p he had reningan ... why isnt it shown ?? does that mean that sage never had reningan
 
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Re: Case Closed: So6p is DEFINETLY an Uzumaki

again man good points just need to get your facts straight Uzimaki are relitives of senju so6ps was not the so6ps before he sealed away 10 tails and only gained rennigon after the fact as a trait of the 10 tails. I get where your coming from but still make new thread with a little more clarity just to annoy the haters! gave a little more info on bottom thread within your thread lol (by the way i didnt mean fact i meant threoy lol
 
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Killer thread boss. You've obviously put lots of thought, time, and effort into this one. ***** for you my friend. Everything that you said makes sense. Some you can argue with, but to be honest this is your opinion, and you backed it so well I'm not gonna bother giving mine, because I'm way to lazy. I'll be looking for more of your threads in the future.
 
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