An extremely friendly question to athiests. ^_^

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I guess I can be considered an athiest but I still have hopes, you do not need a religion to hope. You simply have to hope O_O
 

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Atheists don't live without hope, they learn to make their own hope rather than relying on an imaginary friend to make their hopes come true. I am kind of atheist-ish I guess, and I hope for a lot of things, but I accept that for them to happen I have to make them happen, just relying on god to do it for me is never going to make any of my hopes come true. As for hope after death or whatever, I hope that when I die I don't make too big of a mess or crap my pants in front of anyone.

+rep, I'm with you on that.
 

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Have hope for the good things in life before you meet your untimely end. The end is the end, it's not so bad not having an afterlife. It's just as before you came into this world. No dreams, no memories, no you, but that doesn't necessarily make it bad. I will not say that I am not scared of death, I am completely terrified, but that is merely because I don't completely understand it. You can't imagine the feeling of death or what comes after. I cannot know the feeling of non-existence and that is what terrifies me the most. None of this means that we can't still hope, we just hope for a good life while it lasts. I hope this answered your question and helped you understand a bit more.
 

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That is where there is a difference between theist and atheist; We(I) aren't looking for some "Divine Power" who can change things or make things better, we(I) want to take the initiative and make things better ourselves, one can say, we(I) believe in the divinity within us.

We(I) have "Hope" and we(I) have "Faith" except they aren't the same things that a theist would define them as.

Thanks, you've confirmed my theory...which I won't state due to people not understanding. ^_^
 

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Hope is not strictly a religious concept. I personally tend to look at the world in a scientific approach, considering that everything eventually comes down to a probability. I like to think that the actions we make have an effect on the outcome. It all comes down to how much you want something and how much you're willing to give to make something happen. Hope comes in at the end for me, once I've done all I can to realise my goal, I hope that all my efforts are enough. I hope that the 5% chance of something happening comes true. To me, if there was a god who decided to just "give" me what I wanted, what would be the point of life if it's (the god's) influence could be seen throughout my life. I don't like the idea of my life being comparable to that of a 5 year old playing in a sand box, deciding which toy gets broken and which gets to be the favourite.

On a side note, I "hope" there is an afterlife, simply for the fact that I would be granted an eternal existence, but I simply do not believe it to be true. As an atheist I am open to the idea of a god, but I will continue to not believe there is one until there is substantial proof, which there most likely never will. Either because one does not exist or that proving the existence of a god is a paradox.
 

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Well.....

If u 'hope' that u will survive if u jump off mount Everest naked . . . . then ur a utter *insert proper advective*

But if u work hard for an exam and then 'hope' for a good result . . . . . then it has good chance to happen, though there are many of probabilities depending on thousands of variables but they are all independent of what a person believes. U dont need a deity to 'hope' for something.
 

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I really don't even think about it. Just live life everyday doing what one must do. If death comes then it will just be a surprised to what happens after that. I am aware of the christian way of how one must live life and to achieve eternal life in heaven but still not to fully convinced. Sometimes i tend to win arguments when it comes to religion even though I and not into it. But like i said earlier, just live life, enjoy it. If it comes to an end then you will know what happens then.
 

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I do say the word 'I hope I get that PS3 model one day" but it's not out of religious belief. I just never give the word hope any real credit. Just like me using other words. It fits xd
But seriously, I was thinking about it and hopes not all that drives people though. In some cases it can be but it's not the same for everyone. To be honest, my purpose in life is find the answers to all my questions. Maybe God or Jesus will be the only ones to answer. Do I believe in heaven? maybe, hell? maybe I'm always in between but do tend to fall back into christians beliefs. Just that at the moment, hope hasn't done much for me. Maybe one day hope will help me, who knows but even so, it doesn't mean I will just sit there and hope all day until my prayers are answered. I will keep moving forward. You cant expect god to do everything for you in life, you have to find your own ways to push the impediments away from your life on your own.
Just wanted to say that theists dont just sit around doing nothing and praying. I believe in god but I dont expect him to do anything for me. All I can do is ask for help. Nothing is just going to fall into my lap you have to get up and do it ur self. The reason I believe in god is because I was brought up in it but also because of personal experiences so I cant say for anyone else. In the Quran it even says that God helps those who help themselves.
 

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I am sad!
Why?
I don't want to talk about it!

Ya' know, you can really be an ass at times. xd

Fine, I'll explain it:

one can say, we(I) believe in the divinity within us.

Atheism = humanism = religion. Atheism is a religion, but the deity is humanity itself. They go to church too...every time they step in their institutions or clinics or whatever you want to call it. Atheistic science is a religion, no matter how you slice it. ;)

Alright, you can flame me now...but it would be strange to flame me for speaking the truth. :rolleyes:
 

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Ya' know, you can really be an ass at times. xd

Fine, I'll explain it:



Atheism = humanism = religion. Atheism is a religion, but the deity is humanity itself. They go to church too...every time they step in their institutions or clinics or whatever you want to call it. Atheistic science is a religion, no matter how you slice it. ;)

Alright, you can flame me now...but it would be strange to flame me for speaking the truth. :rolleyes:

Honestly, who could possibly flame you for that? I m an atheist and everything you said was correct. Atheist's typically believe in things that are or can be proven by science and what they believe is logical ties in with what is scientifical.
 
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I agree with the final observation too and I don't find it offensive at all.
It's just that atheist is too much of a heavy word [can't think of a better synonim] if you consider that most people when in extremely tense and challenging situation turn to God for help...
 

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Excuse me but why can't Atheists hope? it's bullshit. Not believing in man written book about how world was created in 7 days etc all other shit combined has nothing to do with not believing nor hoping.

I agree with the final observation too and I don't find it offensive at all.
It's just that atheist is too much of a heavy word [can't think of a better synonim] if you consider that most people when in extremely tense and challenging situation turn to God for help...

wow.. and doe's it help?
 
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wow.. and doe's it help?

Probably not,but that doesn't mean you dont say 'Oh god please help me get out of situation X' when you feel like you cant do anything.
Don't tell me you have never done it >.>
 

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Probably not,but that doesn't mean you dont say 'Oh god please help me get out of situation X' when you feel like you cant do anything.
Don't tell me you have never done it >.>

There's nothing you can't do at any situation. Just think you're way out of it, pray to god...is waste of time.

But I may said few times things like howly shit, ****ing god or jesus :3
 
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I'd like to emphasize that this question is purely out of curiosity. It is not meant, in any way, to be inflammatory. This is just something I cannot comprehend on any level, so asking for an explanation from those who do understand is the most logical course of action.

Those who have belief also have hope. Hope in something greater that happens after death. Hope that they will be spared something aweful during life. Hope that their choices make a difference in the long run.

Those without any faith, pure atheism, do not have this hope. It's completely out of their range unless they accept some belief. To me, this lack of hope is worse than death. I'd have commited suicide a long time ago actually if I did not have hope. It's the hope that has allowed me to live as long as I have, otherwise I wouldn't be making this thread right now. ;)

So my question to atheists is: how do you live without hope?

I'd rather not have this thread shut down too early, so try not to troll. Thanks. ^_^

Atheism, being more of a philosophy that a theology — since it's the absence of theos, is a philosophical stance that doesn't support or deny hope in the way you are posing.

For instance, since our universe can't be said to have an observable 'supernatural' aspect to it due to the fact that all of observable reality is in fact called reality. There for even in the position of atheism one can hope for an after life — reincarnation, the transformation of consciousness, the transmigration of mater & energy, levels of consciousness, conscious being as multidimensional entities, etc..

After all, depending on your definition of the divine an atheist can also be a pantheist.
 

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I'd like to emphasize that this question is purely out of curiosity. It is not meant, in any way, to be inflammatory. This is just something I cannot comprehend on any level, so asking for an explanation from those who do understand is the most logical course of action.

Those who have belief also have hope. Hope in something greater that happens after death. Hope that they will be spared something aweful during life. Hope that their choices make a difference in the long run.

Those without any faith, pure atheism, do not have this hope. It's completely out of their range unless they accept some belief. To me, this lack of hope is worse than death. I'd have commited suicide a long time ago actually if I did not have hope. It's the hope that has allowed me to live as long as I have, otherwise I wouldn't be making this thread right now. ;)

So my question to atheists is: how do you live without hope?

I'd rather not have this thread shut down too early, so try not to troll. Thanks. ^_^

i have plenty of hope in things that are actually possible

personally I think the worse thing that can happen to a living being is to exist for ever, ever been really bored? i bet you have, but in one life span you have things to do so you ignore those times youre really bored and frustrated

ok now try to comprehend the meaning the word ''infinite'' holds, even if you cant imagine it (no human can btw) if you understand certain aspects of it you see that to live for ever would suck ... well, infinitely :)
 

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I'd like to emphasize that this question is purely out of curiosity. It is not meant, in any way, to be inflammatory. This is just something I cannot comprehend on any level, so asking for an explanation from those who do understand is the most logical course of action.

Those who have belief also have hope. Hope in something greater that happens after death. Hope that they will be spared something aweful during life. Hope that their choices make a difference in the long run.

Those without any faith, pure atheism, do not have this hope. It's completely out of their range unless they accept some belief. To me, this lack of hope is worse than death. I'd have commited suicide a long time ago actually if I did not have hope. It's the hope that has allowed me to live as long as I have, otherwise I wouldn't be making this thread right now. ;)

So my question to atheists is: how do you live without hope?

I'd rather not have this thread shut down too early, so try not to troll. Thanks. ^_^

I don't. I hope that there's life after dead, but I don't believe in God. I was never taught to. Atheism doesn't limit hope at all.
 

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well hope in something soon because jesus christ said that you are either with him or against him .... hope to choose wisely xd
 

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I'd like to emphasize that this question is purely out of curiosity. It is not meant, in any way, to be inflammatory. This is just something I cannot comprehend on any level, so asking for an explanation from those who do understand is the most logical course of action.

Those who have belief also have hope. Hope in something greater that happens after death. Hope that they will be spared something aweful during life. Hope that their choices make a difference in the long run.

Those without any faith, pure atheism, do not have this hope. It's completely out of their range unless they accept some belief. To me, this lack of hope is worse than death. I'd have commited suicide a long time ago actually if I did not have hope. It's the hope that has allowed me to live as long as I have, otherwise I wouldn't be making this thread right now. ;)

So my question to atheists is: how do you live without hope?

I'd rather not have this thread shut down too early, so try not to troll. Thanks. ^_^

Well, the way I see it is eventually we will all die. I do not have any hope for a better life after death, I only hope that in some way I have made a memorable contribution to society. This involves me having to put a lot of work in so that I can find my path in life and provide something to be remembers for. In a way I see death as an encouragement to achieve, not as something to look forward and start a new 'life'. The way I see it while I may be out of range of your hope in a new life, you won't be able to fully commit yourself to the hope I hold thus making you out if it's range.

This is my answer and I think many atheists would answer you question in this way.
 
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