[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

[ucHiHa xyN]

Still, how does Madara manage to change Obito? ..by killing Rin?

 

[-Jiraiya-]

Madara loaned his sharingan to someone else..?
And Madara is connected to Hashi's cells via cables..? FTW...? Good chapter
Also did Obito used s/t jutsu using ms to escape the final crush of boulders...?!

 

[whtniels]

madara loaned his sharingan to someone else..?
And madara is connected to hashi's cells via cables..? Ftw...? Good chapter
also did obito used s/t jutsu using ms to escape the final crush of boulders...?!

hes connected to gedo mazo....

 

[-Jiraiya-]

hes connected to gedo mazo....

No he is connected to mazo (statue) made of hashi cells and using Hasi cells to repair himself.. Hashirama will feel soooooooooo violated...!xd

 

[RogueUchiha]

omg. is tat really madara or actually izuna considering he left his eyes to someone else. anybody passes themselves as madara nowadays . more questions and less results

 

[gensing]

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uh well doesnt that look familiar

 

[iamdsixth]

I thought the last 2 pages were intense.As madara stated "you need both eyes to unlock the sharingan's full potential",Obito's mentality was that,"together with Kakashi he will be stronger". (for Kakashi now has his other eye)It's a little hard to believe his change of idealogy after showing that kind of mentality.

Those pages looks like a set up for a TALK NO JUTSU.

 

[SEEDLESS]

- Was Madara following Obito somehow ?

NO

-How did he even know where he was ?

Madara said, obito was incidentally at the opening of his hide out.

-How did Madara 'save' him if he couldn't leave that place ?

Wood Release

-And Obito was so good and desperate to escape, yet he must of listened to Madara in the end .. I wonder what Madara did that completely changed him like that ?


*Therefore it states that OBITO awakened sharingan together with the ability of s/t jutsu

 

[Rayz3n]

From earlier chapters we know that obito turned evil after he found out that Rin died and Kakashi didn't kept his promise of protecting Rin but what I can't figure out is how did Madara saved Obito if he can't leave that damn cave???
Still from the looks of it , seems that madara and obito were good men... Madara fighting for his clansmen rights because the uchiha was one of the strongest clans and he couldn't stand idly and see them thrown away like garbage, and Obito just wanted to protect his friends and his village but in the end Life just disappointed them and they lost everything
After you think about it a little in the naruto series the battle isn't between good and evil its between reality and fairy tails

 

[airquis91]

Possible THEORY:
1. Reason why Obito was depicted as an adult fighting the 4th eventhough the timescale doesnt add up?
-Due to madara attaching the 1st hokages cells to obito, it caused rapid aging because obito could not control his cells yet. due to rigourious training he figured out how to supprese the 1st cells. (i.e. danzo)
2.Why was Obito Evil?
-before death did its part on madara, he casted izanami on obito putting him in a infinite gen justu until madaras plan has been fulfilled could that be why he lost an eye when obito first encountered him?

 

[noted]

Great chapter. Better than expected.

 

[iamdsixth]

From earlier chapters we know that obito turned evil after he found out that Rin died and Kakashi didn't kept his promise of protecting Rin but what I can't figure out is how did Madara saved Obito if he can't leave that damn cave???

Ever thought him controlling those roots to save obito?kage bunshin?summon? Or how far can those jumper cables on his back extend?
He never actually said that he can't leave the cave. He used the word "PLACE".
That cave was part of that "PLACE". make sense?

 

[RogueUchiha]

Page 15, the right Zetsu body looked like something you could "wear". Obito is probably wearing that "Zetsu suit".

yea, it looks amazingly similar to tobi with his mask. and there was a second tobi who fought minato and madara himself was in no condition to fight first hand. so, they may be similar to pain's six paths technique. we'll find out soon enough

 

[ucHiHa xyN]

Well this finally answered some questions but the answers were pretty obvious...

The explanation of "You survived by miracle" or something like that I still think it's not sufficient... Hope Kishi will properly explain HOW he survived being crushed by those rocks...
And if Madara couldn't move from that cave, how exactly did he give his eyes to Nagato?

Only Madara thinks it is a miracle. "..it's almost as if you were able to slip through it" meaning he slipped through it.. somehow he managed, maybe unconciously.
Maybe Nagato went there. Who knows.. Kishi will explain.

 

[Ahmy]

A question's though :
- Was Madara following Obito somehow ?
-How did he even know where he was ?
-How did Madara 'save' him if he couldn't leave that place ?
-And Obito was so good and desperate to escape, yet he must of listened to Madara in the end .. I wonder what Madara did that completely changed him like that ?


It was a really cool chapter , I enjoyed it, super informative and just awesome xd

Same as you i give this chapter 5/5 , IDK whats wrong with people complaining when the chapter is a basic flashback.
If we didn't see this flashback this chapter and kishi moved to sasuke for now , he will have to add this chapter later on , and i think the timing was right for this chapter.

About your question What i understood is that Madara found Obito by coincidence , He said that he was living in the underground , under the cave obito supposed to be dead in.
So he was able to save him because of this coincidence.

 

[RogueUchiha]

so if madara is connected to mazou and nagato summons the gedo mazou.................................... MADARA DIES INSTANTLY XD

 

[Maaggel]

From earlier chapters we know that obito turned evil after he found out that Rin died and Kakashi didn't kept his promise of protecting Rin but what I can't figure out is how did Madara saved Obito if he can't leave that damn cave???

Well, he needs the chakra to survive.. and gets it from the Plant statue.
But perhaps he got some kind of "traveling supply". He said he got tunnels, and that's where Obito landed. So he might need those to get around unseen.

 

[Maaggel]

so if madara is connected to mazou and nagato summons the gedo mazou.................................... MADARA DIES INSTANTLY XD

Mazou just means statue - he's connected to the "plant statue", that the hashirama clone is a part of - not the Gedo Mazou

 

[RogueUchiha]

Mazou just means statue - he's connected to the "plant statue", that the hashirama clone is a part of - not the Gedo Mazou

i see. thanks for the suggestion

 

[tejasomina]

Nice Chapter. Clarified some things
1. Madara wasn't hale and healthy in old age, but rather living on a kind of ventilator (the Hashirama Machine)
2. Madara awakened his Rinnegan and gave it to Nagato before he found Obito
3. Obito wasn't that easy to be brainwashed

But there are some things left unexplained
1. How did Madara happen to find Nagato, given that Madara was inactive and was confined to his lair?
2. Is there some story behind Uzumaki clan massacre?
3. Since it's clear that Madara cannot be any version of Tobi, how the hell did Obito become so strong that he could control Kyuubi? Obito is no genius like Sasuke or Itachi (let us spare comparing him to Itachi), he awakened his Sharingan very late. Also, Madara is not that energetic enough to train Obito, imo