Hashi=Gaara 1 on 1?

[DeadManWonderLand]

You actually provided a decent argument for gaara i would give the battle to hashi any day of the week but Gaara would not go down quietly.

 

[Mizukage88]

Hashi all day eurrry day

 

[genii96]

People just keep using hype as a way to make a character win without even considering their abilities.

We saw what hashi could do against hiruzen which wasnt really impressive,gaara can easily fly above hashi's trees,we have no idae what happened with madara,but just becaue hashi beat madara dosent mean he bats everyone weaker than madaa,this isnt dbz,his moukton was perfect to counter susanoo as it supresses pure chakra. Gaara's abilities are very suitable for taking hashirama,as he can also control the environment,has high chakra reserves,can fly,can sense very well,has a way to kill hashi hile ignoring healing jutsus,can summon large waves of sand in one panel.

Gaara had the right skill set to counter joki boy,wile muu even with jinton couldnt all his life,does that automatically mean gaara>muu?,yamato could supress the 4tk naruto,but kakashi couldnt,does that mean yamato>kakashi?,and how do we know hashi's mouktin is far better than what madara showed?,madara was an edo,he could put large amounts of chakra without flinching,tsunade made no mention of it being far weaker than hashirama's version.

Hashirama's hype is very high,but his actual showings against hiruzen were very low.

Flight renders moukton near ineffective,and gaara can attack from his sand sphere easily,his sand burial will make healing useless,until we see more of hashi,gaara wins high diff.

excellently said. Madara dosent fight like gaara,gaara can actuall fly over the moukton to avoid it and use his sand techs from above,ABC logic in naruto is useless if you are reffering to fights,each character has an ability that is strong against some things and weak against other things,moukton was strong against the susanoo and kyubi as they are basically living pure chakra which moukton easily supresses,moukton is also weak to raiton,as it goes through wood easily,just like the ground,also,elements that are of little mass but change shape,like smoke which can easily move around moukton and get it's use,but that it weak against water and so on and so on,so if a smoke user beats a wood user who beats a water user,does that make the smoke user stroner than the water user?,gaara beat joki boy because his skillset allowed him to,muu couldnt do it all his life cuz his own skillset didnt let him,but that dosent mean gaara>muu does it?

Gaara's ability to fly,sense,use third eye,use sand which is almost like smoke,sand burial,have an automatic and very strong defence which took susanoo swords,sand armour which took cs2 bones of steel and barely cracked,all allow him to face hashirama,IMO. Madara claimed that anyone who saw PS died,hashi lived after VOTE,hashirama didnt really show well against hiruzen,but i guess kishi nerfed him to show off hiruzen and oro.

I am not bashing anyone here,everyone has their opinions,i a just saying not to decide a match on hype and ABC logic.

 

[dildobaggins369]

correct. gaara can fly to avoid pollen and hashi has nothing he can do about that. then gaara can transform the ground into a desert while he uses gourd sand to block wood attacks. yamato hasnt shown he can use wood as a projectile. i doubt hahisrama can.

show me this magical fight and scans where he did all of this. wait...wait..you cant...and gaara has shown to be strong enough to fight and capture 3 legendary immortal kages, AND take on madara who had 5 susano clones all trying to kill him and couldnt.

how do you know he faced perfect susano? show me proof he has done this backed up with manga pages. and show me gaara crying vs madara.

large scale sand tsunami and quicksand quickly makes mokuton useless, combined with flight, sand clone feints, sand hail, sensing, and defensive outer armour leaves all attacks on him useless. hashiramas featless regeneration is literally helpless against being crushed inside a sand prison.

the auto sand defence was from his mother's will and the fight with 4th kazekage showed he still has it.

really? show me the manga page he has done this.

gaaras superior feats have spoken

yet kisame and mei did the exact same thing

irrelevant. as madara =/= hashirama. and gaaras shown he can turn a grassland to a desert in a few minutes as well as superior intelligence, skill, versatility and flight

tsunade warned them when they were ALREADY IN THE AIR

despite the fact someone far stronger was unable to...

it tanked a nuke. it will handle wood

larger =/= more effective and strong

how do you know? show me some pages of him fighting and physically taking down PS. whats that? you cant? so why bring it up if its worthless?

how does those trees penetrate sand thats harder than goddamn steel?

You sir, know how to put together an argument.

+reppage coming your way

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Lmfao then gaara has shown disrespect to everybody he's faught including madara

 

[RufusSerano]

Gaara got beaten up by Deidara who mixed his bombs with Gaaras sand. Hashirama doesnt need to, he can simply grow wood on Gaaras sand. And Hashirama not beeing able to make projectiles like Yamato? R u kiddin me? Yamatos Mokuton is very limited, it cant be compared to Hashirama. Yamato got completely exhausted after creating 5-6 houses, Hashirama created entire forests and continue fighting like nothing happened.
Also Hashi has his Regeneration Justu that will instantly heal his wounds and unlike Tsunades Jutsu, his doesnt have those negative side-efffects.
Oh, and the plant-clones are there as well. Madara said he was the only one ever to be able to detect them!

I dont understand why ppl are even trying to give Gaara a chance on this one, just because Edo-Madara was having some fun playing around with him.

If you still are not convinced:

Hashirama had Tailed-Beasts as PETS!!! So you rly want to tell me Gaara vs Mokuton & Tailed-Beasts would be going in Gaaras favour? Dont make me laugh!

 

[psukkar]

what the hell is this thread?

can u add gaara gets owned and hard for the vote and then give 10 votes on that.

 

[thepizzaguy]

Yes and people shouldn't use a>b>c logic saying that gaara can't beat madara so he that doesn't mean he can't keep up with hashirama.hashi may have healing powers but that doesn't mean he could avoid being crushed by a full scale sand burial.

 

[TobisPawn]

This is a joke, right? Last I checked, Gaara went down from one of Hashi's techs.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

.And no, Madara said the ONLY person he has admired is Hashirama, that's all

is that a battle feat? if not what is it doing here? your suppsoed to be proving how hashirama defeats gaara.

Madara mocking the Kages by saying they are nothing before him

nothign before him, not shodai

who keeps trying to make fun of everyone he faces.

actually he praised naruto and indirectly itachi/sasuke for ending ET

if hashi could beat madara then he can beat gaara

until we see him fight madara we cant say gaara loses

Gaara got beaten up by Deidara who mixed his bombs with Gaaras sand. Hashirama doesnt need to, he can simply grow wood on Gaaras sand

and this will accomplish what? gaaras sand is harder than steel

And Hashirama not beeing able to make projectiles like Yamato? R u kiddin me? Yamatos Mokuton is very limited

he said he cant use the bijuu supression as well. nothing about him having trouble using the basics of mokuton. he even used advent of a world of trees

Yamato got completely exhausted after creating 5-6 houses

after attempting to supress 8 tailed naruto

Hashirama created entire forests and continue fighting like nothing happened.

really? show me proof

unlike Tsunades Jutsu, his doesnt have those negative side-efffects.

how in gods name do you know? did you email kishi?

Madara said he was the only one ever to be able to detect them!

and considering sensor nins were definitely rare back then as were ms users thats not saying much. they are still rare.

I dont understand why ppl are even trying to give Gaara a chance on this one, just because Edo-Madara was having some fun playing around with him.

hed have fun playing with hashirama too. meteors, preta, etc. considering he called tsunade weak and ugly and boring, i doubt hed have fun unless his enemy was strong,.

Hashirama had Tailed-Beasts as PETS!!!

and yet cant use them in battle

Last I checked, Gaara went down from one of Hashi's techs.

he went down because a giant ass susano knocked him down.

 

[thepizzaguy]

Gaara got beaten up by Deidara who mixed his bombs with Gaaras sand. Hashirama doesnt need to, he can simply grow wood on Gaaras sand. And Hashirama not beeing able to make projectiles like Yamato? R u kiddin me? Yamatos Mokuton is very limited, it cant be compared to Hashirama. Yamato got completely exhausted after creating 5-6 houses, Hashirama created entire forests and continue fighting like nothing happened.
Also Hashi has his Regeneration Justu that will instantly heal his wounds and unlike Tsunades Jutsu, his doesnt have those negative side-efffects.
Oh, and the plant-clones are there as well. Madara said he was the only one ever to be able to detect them!

I dont understand why ppl are even trying to give Gaara a chance on this one, just because Edo-Madara was having some fun playing around with him.

If you still are not convinced:

Hashirama had Tailed-Beasts as PETS!!! So you rly want to tell me Gaara vs Mokuton & Tailed-Beasts would be going in Gaaras favour? Dont make me laugh!

Uhm yu can't count the fight with deidara as he had to use his remaining chakra to save his villagers like any good kage should so he had tactical disadvantage. I'm not too sure but healing would be rendered useless against being crushed and ground into pieces by let's say a sand burial. As the title indicates I'm sure this is 1 on 1 matchup so no tailbeasts allowed or compare shukaku gaara

 

[Rozzy]

Good read, but I'm still for Hashi mid-high diff :scorps:

Note: Gaara doesn't have the automatic sand defense anymore. He had that because of the Shukaku that was sealed in him, which is the original reason why Gaara even had the ability to manipulate sand.

His automatic sand defense was the blessing of his mother when he was born.

 

[phats1231]

no chance
hashi>madara
madara>5 kages (don't think edo would have mattered here)
gaara=1/5th of a kage

 

[IDunno]

Troll thread maybe?

 

[Schwarzen Blitz]

Since when did Hashirama become stronger than Tsunade?

he has always been stronger than tsunade. I cant believe that there is any question about that

 

[Schwarzen Blitz]

And gaara doesn't stand a chance against Hashirama. Even if Gaara had his tailed beast, hashi could just subdue it without breaking a sweat. Hashirama FTW easily

 

[genii96]

no chance
hashi>madara
madara>5 kages (don't think edo would have mattered here)
gaara=1/5th of a kage

hashi>EMS madara
EDO madara=ems madara hashirama rinnegan unlimited chakra and immortality
edo madara>>>hashirama
edo madara>anyone aside from maybe tobi,kabuto and his edos and then SO6P.
Ems edo madara was taken by half dead onoki weakened gaara base naruto clone.

Gaara 1/5th of a kage?,is this a joke?,hashirama is sitting in the death god's stomach,what does that make him?,he barely made a forest against hiruzen as an edo,he was beaten by taijutsu and paper bombs,for someone who was a fairy tail,that was weak!

 

[6pathofpain]

Im glad to see that some people who actually look at the facts of the ninja's abilities are here these other niggas is stupid, and are all say the same thing. You cant compare madara vs hashi and hashi vs gaara because gaara's fighting style and madara's are completely different. Madara has no way to escape a forest created by hashi, gaara on the other hand does.

 

[-Jiten-]

Hashi pawned Gara

 

[Rooniqalz]

people should stop using Hashi vs Hiruzen as an advantage.the power rating during the Naruto series were low,plus oro did not PERFECT the tech.