Why is Itachi always compared to the Top Tiers?
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TheGr8Uchiha
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you are the fanboy brotha :sy: ,,,, "Itachi just cannot defeat any of the characters listed above. Also Itachi never defeated any character of significance without a decent amount of help, along with his poor stamina I don't really see how he can make top tier." so u mean itachi never defeated nagato,naruto,kabuto
ya right!!!! my to ten list for now is going to be like1.Madara
2.Tobi
3.Naruto
4.Itachi/Nagato
5.Sasuke
6.Kabuto
7.Minato
8.Bee
9.Muu
10.Onoki
I agree about my top five but the rest arent that strong.,.,.,
Uchiha boii
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ll BL4CKM00N ll
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Kabuto wasn't holding back anything against itachi,
his objetive in that fight was to bring Sasuke to his side, also Itachi being edo doesn't grant him infinite chakra, the only edo that has unlimited chakra is Madara. When itachi was fighting Sasuke he was on the brink of death not even being able to maintain a basic katon. If anything edo itachi is performing at a lvl itachi would have without the sickness.
OT: I personally think for itachi's age and with the handicaps he had he would do very well against any ninja, being able to hold his own against any shinobi (note I said do very well) he may not be able to defeat top tier shinobi but he's definitely not out of their league.
Why do people compare him to Top Tier Shinobi?
Because everyone is trying to find a reason to make him look weaker than the Top Tier Shinobi when he's not hahaha.
He owned his clan at a VERY young age (with a little help though)
He could have owned Kakashi, Azuma and Kuranai if he wanted to WITH EASE
He owned Kabuto with ease (Sasuke didn't do that much)
Orochimaru was afraid of him and admitted that Itachi was stronger than him (and he's a bloody Sannin Jiraiya and Tsunade wouldn't stand a chance against him aswell since Orochimaru fought against Jiraiya and Tsunade together and gave them a hard one)
Tobi admitted that he would have been dead if he didn't keep some secrets from him
He sealed Nagato and found the Rinnegan's blindspot within no time.
He has a Sasuno'o with the most powerfull weapons out there...
He outbrains everyone, he said that there's a weakness for every jutsu well if you know that there's a weakness for every jutsu and with Itachi's intelligence it shouldn't be a problem for him to find it besides he has the right tools/jutsu's and yes intelligence for it to do so.
He dodged Kirin with his Sasuno'o probs the fastest attack in Naruto...
He could have owned Naruto in 2 secs in his encounters with him
He could have owned Sasuke if he wanted to...
Zetsu called him invincible...
Kabuto said he was on a different level than the other Shinobi
He was free from the Edo tensei (with help of Katoblablabla though but still he managed to do it)
And he stopped the Edo tensei...
Hell he even scared the shit out of Danzo and all the other elders because he would kill them if they did something to Sasuke...
Even amongs his Clan he was probs the best...
FUNNY FACT IS: HE HAS NEVER SHOWN HIS FULL POWER IN ANY OF HIS FIGHTS hell not even HALF his power (because he never wanted to kill anyone because he's one of the good guys) yet owned the shit out of some well respected Shinobi and he was what? 13/14 maybe 15? and in Shippuuden not older than 23...
Hell he owns everyone...
Because everyone is trying to find a reason to make him look weaker than the Top Tier Shinobi when he's not hahaha.
He owned his clan at a VERY young age (with a little help though)
He could have owned Kakashi, Azuma and Kuranai if he wanted to WITH EASE
He owned Kabuto with ease (Sasuke didn't do that much)
Orochimaru was afraid of him and admitted that Itachi was stronger than him (and he's a bloody Sannin Jiraiya and Tsunade wouldn't stand a chance against him aswell since Orochimaru fought against Jiraiya and Tsunade together and gave them a hard one)
Tobi admitted that he would have been dead if he didn't keep some secrets from him
He sealed Nagato and found the Rinnegan's blindspot within no time.
He has a Sasuno'o with the most powerfull weapons out there...
He outbrains everyone, he said that there's a weakness for every jutsu well if you know that there's a weakness for every jutsu and with Itachi's intelligence it shouldn't be a problem for him to find it besides he has the right tools/jutsu's and yes intelligence for it to do so.
He dodged Kirin with his Sasuno'o probs the fastest attack in Naruto...
He could have owned Naruto in 2 secs in his encounters with him
He could have owned Sasuke if he wanted to...
Zetsu called him invincible...
Kabuto said he was on a different level than the other Shinobi
He was free from the Edo tensei (with help of Katoblablabla though but still he managed to do it)
And he stopped the Edo tensei...
Hell he even scared the shit out of Danzo and all the other elders because he would kill them if they did something to Sasuke...
Even amongs his Clan he was probs the best...
FUNNY FACT IS: HE HAS NEVER SHOWN HIS FULL POWER IN ANY OF HIS FIGHTS hell not even HALF his power (because he never wanted to kill anyone because he's one of the good guys) yet owned the shit out of some well respected Shinobi and he was what? 13/14 maybe 15? and in Shippuuden not older than 23...
Hell he owns everyone...
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Ghostofthewind
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Tsukuyomi > Naruto, Hiruzen, Kabuto, Nagato, possibly Minato and HashiramaI don't really see how you fans can compare Itachi to the all-time greats. He just does not have enough power. In my opinion the Top Tier characters are:
Itachi just cannot defeat any of the characters listed above. Also Itachi never defeated any character of significance without a decent amount of help, along with his poor stamina I don't really see how he can make top tier.
- Nagato(if one path can see Tsukuyomi can they all see Tsukuyomi?)
- Tobi
- Naruto(Tsukuyomi)
- Hiruzen Prime(Tsukuyomi)
- Madara
- Hashirama(Tsukuyomi?)
- Minato(borderline) [Agreed]
- Kabuto(without edo borderline) [Kabuto without a cave, an army of Edos, and plot no jutsu Itachi would have won in a landslide... Kabuto
Discuss, no fanboyism.
I've posted too many times about Tsukyomi I'm sick of it. Just know Tsukuyomi is stupid and should have never been made that strong.
Itachi, for some reason, has a list of stupid moves that are too strong to make sense:
- Yata Mirror: It can reflect any attack. Any attack? Even a hit from Madara's perfect Susanoo?
- Sword of Totsuke: in the manga it hits before most people notice it and seals quickly.
- Izanagi: nuff said.
Sick vs. Healthy Itachi.
Everyone knows that Itachi was sick. So what would healthy Itachi be like? If you speculate about "Prime Hurizen" then I'll speculate about Healthy Itachi, and even better, propose "Prime Itachi."
Healthy Itachi:Everyone knows that Itachi was sick. So what would healthy Itachi be like? If you speculate about "Prime Hurizen" then I'll speculate about Healthy Itachi, and even better, propose "Prime Itachi."
In order to get an idea of healthy Itachi let's compare him to a healthy, similar ninja: Sasuke.
Pt 3
Sasuke
:nin:5,Tai:3.5, Gen:4, Int:3.5, Str:3.5,SP:4.5 sta:3.5, HS:4, Total:31.5Pt 3 Itachi (sick):Nin:5,Tai:4.5,Gen:5, Int:5, Str:3.5, Sp:5, Sta:2.5, HS:5, T:35.5
Notice Itachi is > or = to Sasuke in all stats but Stamina. This makes it reasonable to believe that if Itachi were healthy Itachi's Stamina would be > or = to 3.5. We'll call this Modest Healthy Itachi or MHItachi for short.
On avg. Itachi is about 1/4th (.26) stronger in every category but stamina. So if Itachi's sickness effected more than his stamina then it is possible that all of Itachi's stats would rise by 26%. We'll call this average healthy Itachi or
AH Itachi
.
Or we could raise Itachi's stats by 1 because Sasuke's stamina is 1 point higher. We'll call this
Itachi +1
.
MH Itachi: Nin:5, Tai:4.5, Gen:5, Int:5, Str:3.5, Sp:5, Sta:3.5, HS:5, Total:36.5
AH Itachi: Nin:>5(6.3), Tai:>5(5.67), Gen:>5(6.3), Int:>5(6.3), Str: 4.41, Sp:>5(6.3), Sta:3.15, HS:>5(6.3) Total:>40(44.73)
Itachi+1: Nin:6,Tai:5.5,Gen:6,Int:6, Str:4.5, Sp:6, Sta:3.5, HS:6. Total:43.5
"Prime Itachi"
A healthy Itachi is starting to look OP. Let's even it all out a bit by averaging them.
(MH+AH+Ip1)/3=:Nin:>5(5.7), Tai:>5(5.2), Gen:>5(5.7), Int:>5(5.7), Str:4(4.13), SPD:>5(5.7), Sta:3(3.38), HS:>5(5.7) Total:>40(41.21)
I disagree with sta:3(3.38) because Itachi's stats are all >or= to Sasuke's so I'm notching Itachi in at 3.5. It's .12 of a point higher. So...
Prime Itachi: Nin:>5(5.7), Tai:>5(5.2), Gen:>5(5.7), Int:>5(5.7), Str:4(4.13), SPD:>5(5.7), Sta:3.5, HS:>5(5.7) Total:>40(41.33)
Itachi exceeds the max in 5 categories and even the total amount of points allowed. Prime Itachi is closer to the level of Hashirama and Madara than pt 3 Kakashi(34.5).
Did Prime Itachi ever exist in the series?
Yes. Right before, during and right after the Uchiha Massacre Itachi had the MS and no signs of being sick. Yes, Itachi did catch the disease while with ANBU but there were no symptoms during that time. If Itachi had all of his MS techniques is a different story. However, judging by how fast Itachi learned (graduate at age 7, sharinagan master:8, Chunin:10, Captain of ANBU:13) Itachi probably did.
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ohhh you suck.. Just read the manga. Plus watch th series. First of all look what he did to kabuto,.!!!!! Second itachi is the only uchiha that can cast a genjutsu of of his finger nails. Think about it......think about it
Ghostofthewind
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The reason why many people, including myself, consider Itachi a Top Tier ninja is because he reserves alot of power that we never got to see. Unfortunately, we will never see the extent of his true power. We have never truly seen Itachi fight someone will all his strength, essentially with killing intent