Tsunade is stronger than Danzo

[usag]

danso is old bag

 

[Chatte]

1. Not the same strength but like I said enough to tank a few hits. Danzo only needs 1 intance to grab her and she is sealed. If Danzo has izangi activtaed he wouldn't care about taking a hit from Tsunade. If she is sealed Danzo can effortlessy cut her head off.

The rest of what you wrote is just your utter bs opinion. Tsuande was not praised as the best taijutsu user. She was praised as the strongest person. Sharigan will make all that strength useless. You think Tsuande can break out the seal before Danzo will cut her head off? Lolololololoololol

She has good analyzing skills she has noo feats that put her on a higher pedestal than Danzo. Tsunade is famous and a top tier ninja from Danzos village. You don't think Danzo will all his resources won't know what she can do? Serious. I know you try to defend all the girls on Naruto but don't kid yourself.

Ka could have ended Tsunade for some reason Danzo never made his move.

1. The only time we have seen Tsunade getting hit was when she did it on purpose. You forget the fact that her primary skills are evasion skills.

2. Ah, no, it's not utter bullshit, go into Tsunade's stoy and you will see I am not. And no, Sharingan has its own weaknesses and against Tsunade, being a medical nin won't have advantage. What makes you believe that Tsunade will just stay in the area to get caught by the seal?

3. I try to defend every character in Naruto, not just the girls. Watch my posts around and you'll see that. Tell me, what feats does Danzo have to put him higher above Tsunade, that Tsunade couldn't counteract? I am not kiding myself. Stating facts.

4. If he would have been that strong, he would've made his move against Sandaime too, against Tsunade too, yet all he did all his life was sneaking around, stealing never had the gut to challenge none of them. When you're sure on your own strenght, you're ready to prove it and don't do malevolent things around the back.

Someone said that Danzo's from Sandaime's time who was praised to be the strongest Hokage of them all, yet you forget that the third was the sensei of the Sannins, which include Tsunade as well.

 

[Tsunadehokage]

There are 3 characters Tsunade have stood up against. Orochimaru, Pain and Madara. If thats not badass already, I dont know. She would pulverize his old body in a minute.

True story ^^
She'd beat him but it wouldn't be easy.

 

[DanzoFan32]

1. I thought he can preserve an eye as long as it doesn't reach its 60 second limit. I might be wrong though so I will have to search for an answer.
2. I usually assume he does because without it, he isn't that great. The eye will buy him 60 seconds to unscrew the seal so that he gains access to the izanagi arm. Tsunade doesn't really have any one shot super fast attacks like Sasuke does. IMO Danzo would have been far more impressive if he had fought anyone other than Sasuke.
3. He doesn't have to spam. He is capable of using those jutsus strategically but we will never know since he himself had to fight a spammer.

1. Tsunade's punches do far more damage than Sasuke's sword so he will be in extremely bad shape. You know what, I actually don't know if Danzo would have energy to make seals for izanagi since Tsunade's punches are actually ridiculously OP. The thing is, I don't think Tsunade can make Danzo run out of all ten eyes because she lacks super fast one shot kills but if she manages to kill Danzo when Danzo decides to conserve izanagi, she's got the match. I just don't know if she is capable of doing that.

But Blaze is supposed to be a genius. Oh well so you don't think Baku is that huge? Anyway do you think that attack Danzo used to open up Sasuke's susanoo will cut Tsunade in half?

Sasuke has susanoo, Tsunade doesn't. On the other hand, Tsunade has much more physical strength and better chakra control. She'd be in a pretty bad situation though, wouldn't you agree. Wait doesn't Danzo also get sucked in or is he immune to the suction for some reason?

No, what I mean is what if Danzo unsummons Baku before Tsunade kills it.

1. She decided to tank susanoo attacks so I'm not so sure.
2. Izanagi.
3. Mifune's speed, reach and speciality in battle means that Tsunade won't do much good in preventing Danzo from forming handseals. Firstly ninjas usually don't do that and so they don't train in doing so. Mifune is the leader of the samurai therefore he is highly trained in the art of attacking the enemy head on and preventing them from doing anything.

KA is a cheap jutsu but I am leaving it out of the discussion for various reasons. I don't want to turn this into a KA GG argument but a more interesting in how the fight will play out.

No, Sasuke's will power rivals that of Naruto. They are the two main characters so their drive will be much stronger than others. Also keep in mind that Tsunade is supposed to be an older version of Sakura who doesn't exactly have the strongest will power. Yeah I think she'll be stuck in the seal. You mention that Danzo can't counter her attack. Wrong, izanagi.

Also isn't Tsunade scared of Danzo even though she has no knowledge on izanagi?

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Nicely put. I agree with this^^

 

[uchiha asuku aliyu]

i think tsunade takes this, firstly tsunade's summon has proven to be one of the strongest, clearly danzo has futon but tsunade can easly heal herselve and about the head cut off it's not as easy as you make it sound, about the wood release jutsu if danzo could use them well he'd have depended on them against sasuke, and clearly tsunade is faster than danzo which gives tsunade the chance to counter and attak danzo.. So i surpot tsunade wins this

 

[kakashi isboss]

Sorry bro, but when I read : He has Izanagi which gives him 60 seconds of immortality, 10x60s=10 minutes. I knew your post was bias as F**K. He might have Hashi's DNA but due to the fact of him not being an Uchiha his chakra levels drop hard for each eye activating Izanagi. So yes, Izanagi grants him 10 minutes of immortality, but it also wears him down, where Tsunade has a more constant flow of chakra. It would probably last to the moment either Danzo cuts Tsunade's head off, or she's able to outlast his izanagi's and clob him to the face. I'd give this to Tsunade due to sick regeneration.

Edit: Where has it ever been told that beheading Tsunade would kill her? All I know is that both Mitotic Regeneration and Byakugō heal any injury done to the one using it.



Read the damn topic, it's said without KA (=Kotoamatsukami).
(/NaziPatrol: Shisui* Tsunade* Experiences* Stabbed* She's*)
Read before you blabber utter nonsense next time.

but in a real battle he would have Shisui's(happy now) eye thats like saying someone could beat saskue without sharingon

 

[Shouten]

Let's get real, Tsunade specialty is being the support. Her being the support increases the winning chances of whichever team she's in from nothing to 99%(exaggeration only, but some truth in it). That is also the reason why she proposed that Konoha's teams should have one medical ninja with them.

But Danzo is the aggressive type. He uses barrages of fuuton jutsus. We have seen that from his fight with Sasuke. Sasuke won that one because he excels in defense and he also has tsukoyomi.

A one on one fight between a support type and aggressive/attack type will always be one sided. The attack type has the total advantage.

We have seen that when Tsunade tried to go one on one with Pain and Madara. She could've died in both of those fights.
Orochimaru is the intelligence type.Not that aggressive but still a dangerous opponent, however. Tsunade and him are somewhat evenly matched plus she has Jiraiya with her in that fight so she got the better of Orochimaru.

Tsunade's skills are at its full potential if she has teammates with her. A kage's duty is to serve his people. Tsunade is fit for the job. Tsunade serves well with her medical/support specialties. We have seen the epitome of the service when she protected every villager when Pain destroyed Konoha. Now we are seeing her service by being at the aide of the other kages so her fellow kages can last the fight against Madara.

The bottomline is: Danzo wins this.

 

[Chatte]

Let's get real, Tsunade specialty is being the support. Her being the support increases the winning chances of whichever team she's in from nothing to 99%(exaggeration only, but some truth in it). That is also the reason why she proposed that Konoha's teams should have one medical ninja with them.

But Danzo is the aggressive type. He uses barrages of fuuton jutsus. We have seen that from his fight with Sasuke. Sasuke won that one because he excels in defense and he also has tsukoyomi.

A one on one fight between a support type and aggressive/attack type will always be one sided. The attack type has the total advantage.

We have seen that when Tsunade tried to go one on one with Pain and Madara. She could've died in both of those fights.
Orochimaru is the intelligence type.Not that aggressive but still a dangerous opponent, however. Tsunade and him are somewhat evenly matched plus she has Jiraiya with her in that fight so she got the better of Orochimaru.

Tsunade's skills are at its full potential if she has teammates with her. A kage's duty is to serve his people. Tsunade is fit for the job. Tsunade serves well with her medical/support specialties. We have seen the epitome of the service when she protected every villager when Pain destroyed Konoha. Now we are seeing her service by being at the aide of the other kages so her fellow kages can last the fight against Madara.

The bottomline is: Danzo wins this.

Ill have to dissagree with you for a bit.
Ok, she's support type (taking this into consideration and leaving asside other feats that she has regarding her offensiveness).

You stated that the attack type has the total advantage, let's take this into consideration too. But for what the attack is good if the defensive is hard and you cannot penetrate it?
She could've died, yet she didn't. In both of the fights she showed enough intelligence to counteract powerul enemies.

 

[Shouten]

Ill have to dissagree with you for a bit.
Ok, she's support type (taking this into consideration and leaving asside other feats that she has regarding her offensiveness).

You stated that the attack type has the total advantage, let's take this into consideration too. But for what the attack is good if the defensive is hard and you cannot penetrate it?
She could've died, yet she didn't. In both of the fights she showed enough intelligence to counteract powerul enemies.

That's exactly what happened when Danzo tried to get the better of Sasuke. He underestimated the young Uchiha and his arsenal of defense jutsus, aswell as offensive jutsus.

Yes she could've died, and she didn't, but she also have not landed any significant strike against her opponents which would make her get the advantage. Against Madara, she did. However, her opponent is outnumbered by her team, which proves that Tsunade is best for support. One on one bouts against cream of the crop ninjas is not best for her.

On the other hand, Danzo has the upper hand when in comes to jutsus. Long ranged piercing fuuton. If tsunade gets too close: izanagi.

 

[Bijuu Kage]

fuuton would cut tsunades boobies off

 

[Chatte]

That's exactly what happened when Danzo tried to get the better of Sasuke. He underestimated the young Uchiha and his arsenal of defense jutsus, aswell as offensive jutsus.

Yes she could've died, and she didn't, but she also have not landed any significant strike against her opponents which would make her get the advantage. Against Madara, she did. However, her opponent is outnumbered by her team, which proves that Tsunade is best for support. One on one bouts against cream of the crop ninjas is not best for her.

On the other hand, Danzo has the upper hand when in comes to jutsus. Long ranges piercing fuuton. If tsunade gets too close: izanagi.

Sometimes depending on the situation it's best to do it like this.
What would she accomplish if she would've gone directly to Pein? All her villagers would've been dead therefore no winning on a bigger scale even if she would won over him.

Sorry but the comparison with Madara is a bit improper. Kishimoto has stated that he is on another scale and no shinobi alive in Narutoverse could possibly win against him, that includes the most powerful shinobi at this time, Naruto.

Plus, Madara has abilities that can outnumber all the five of them so this is a somehow fair fight. It it wouldn't have been in EDO state, he would've been in quite some trouble right now.

You took out Tsunade's offensiveness, yet, that offensive moves she had made an open for the others to attack so she has proven herself to be not only a support character. She can do both of her parts at the same time. Being offensive and defensive in the same time (got into a fight with Madara and in the same time she healed the others). Therefore she has shown a great feat regarding "multitasking". Another proof of hers is that with her offensive skills she managed to pierce through one of the best defensive jutsus in the Narutoverse, meaning Madara's Susanoo.

One on one takes it to another level as she doesn't have to worry for the others to be taken care of and she can fully concentrate on her own offensive and defensive moves. Look for example at the battle of Naruto and Pein.

He asked everyone else to stand back as it would be difficult to have to take care of them and fight Pein in the same time.

 

[uncle sam]

It could either way. Danzo has alot of powerful techs;please don't underestimate him folks.

 

[killer1]

you joking right there is no way sundae can beat danzo

 

[SIGFOR]

Well Tsunade defiantly is "stronger"

But Danzo has so much shit up his sleeve, I can't see Tsunade coming out of this one alive.

 

[UzumakiNaruto20]

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[Dantee]

1. The only time we have seen Tsunade getting hit was when she did it on purpose. You forget the fact that her primary skills are evasion skills.

2. Ah, no, it's not utter bullshit, go into Tsunade's stoy and you will see I am not. And no, Sharingan has its own weaknesses and against Tsunade, being a medical nin won't have advantage. What makes you believe that Tsunade will just stay in the area to get caught by the seal?

3. I try to defend every character in Naruto, not just the girls. Watch my posts around and you'll see that. Tell me, what feats does Danzo have to put him higher above Tsunade, that Tsunade couldn't counteract? I am not kiding myself. Stating facts.

4. If he would have been that strong, he would've made his move against Sandaime too, against Tsunade too, yet all he did all his life was sneaking around, stealing never had the gut to challenge none of them. When you're sure on your own strenght, you're ready to prove it and don't do malevolent things around the back.






Someone said that Danzo's from Sandaime's time who was praised to be the strongest Hokage of them all, yet you forget that the third was the sensei of the Sannins, which include Tsunade as well.

You realize the seal I'm talking about is the one he used to freeze Sasuke. All it requires is a touch. Tsunade who specializes in close combat will be shitted on. A combination of sharigan,freezing seal and Izangi will end Tsunade. Again you post more of ur bs opinion. A medical ninja is renders the sharigan at a non advantage? What lmaol

Stop writing all that extra that really has nothing to do with the fight. Danzo never made his move towards hokage by force. Doing so would make him lose respect of the villagers. Even so this has nothing do with the discussion. S

 

[Chatte]

You realize the seal I'm talking about is the one he used to freeze Sasuke. All it requires is a touch. Tsunade who specializes in close combat will be shitted on. A combination of sharigan,freezing seal and Izangi will end Tsunade. Again you post more of ur bs opinion. A medical ninja is renders the sharigan at a non advantage? What lmaol

Stop writing all that extra that really has nothing to do with the fight. Danzo never made his move towards hokage by force. Doing so would make him lose respect of the villagers. Even so this has nothing do with the discussion. S

Yes I am realising that. If he's close enough to touch her, she's close enough to touch him. How will he be able to do the signs if she derranges his pathway? Excluding the fact that she can finish him off with a blow.

You're talking about a combination of the 3 yet Danzo has never showed multitasking skills. How can he do all the signs needed for all 3 of them?

Ah yes, can be rended as useless against it. You forget that in order to get her into a genjutsu or Tsukuyomi he needs to look into her eyes. If she doesn't look into his eyes, how can he trap her?
Izanagi only helped Danzo to resist for 10 minutes. Every time he used a sharingan he lost "a life".
Tsunade's feats show clearly that she can over come him. A punch and it will be enough to break all the sharingans in one blow therefore he will be unable to use this technique.

You say that I only speak bullshit just because I can show you she can counteract his moves? Sorry, flawed logic.

Yes, he would lose the respect of the villagers, villagers that knew why they didn't chose him to be a Hokage in the first place.

 

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[Dantee]

Yes I am realising that. If he's close enough to touch her, she's close enough to touch him. How will he be able to do the signs if she derranges his pathway? Excluding the fact that she can finish him off with a blow.

You're talking about a combination of the 3 yet Danzo has never showed multitasking skills. How can he do all the signs needed for all 3 of them?

Ah yes, can be rended as useless against it. You forget that in order to get her into a genjutsu or Tsukuyomi he needs to look into her eyes. If she doesn't look into his eyes, how can he trap her?
Izanagi only helped Danzo to resist for 10 minutes. Every time he used a sharingan he lost "a life".
Tsunade's feats show clearly that she can over come him. A punch and it will be enough to break all the sharingans in one blow therefore he will be unable to use this technique.

You say that I only speak bullshit just because I can show you she can counteract his moves? Sorry, flawed logic.

Yes, he would lose the respect of the villagers, villagers that knew why they didn't chose him to be a Hokage in the first place.

Sharigan allows you to predict movements. Tsunade isn't fast she is just strong. Danzo clearly has the advantage. What do you mean he can't use all 3?

Izangi activated
Sharigans activated
Use touch seal.
Proceed to cut her head off

Tsunade can't hit a 3tomoe sharigan user point blank by herself. She is slow. She is is not gai or lee in taijutsu.


Really nothing else you are saying is relevant. What you're saying is that she was picked over hokage than danzo so she must be stronger. :sy: what kind of shit logic is that. There are a million reasons to pick someone over hokage than just strength alone.

A punch will break all the sharigans only if izangi isn't activated already. That's also assuming she can hit someone with 3tomoe sharigan. Which she cant


J

 

[Chatte]

Sharigan allows you to predict movements. Tsunade isn't fast she is just strong. Danzo clearly has the advantage. What do you mean he can't use all 3?

Izangi activated
Sharigans activated
Use touch seal.
Proceed to cut her head off

Tsunade can't hit a 3tomoe sharigan user point blank by herself. She is slow. She is is not gai or lee in taijutsu.


Really nothing else you are saying is relevant. What you're saying is that she was picked over hokage than danzo so she must be stronger. :sy: what kind of shit logic is that. There are a million reasons to pick someone over hokage than just strength alone.




J

I never said people chose her because of her strenght so your type of picking logicness is shitty, therefore your statement is shitty itself (If you want us to use those type of words).

You still didn't counteracted all of what I say.

She has shown to be fast enough (Sannin battle where she blitzed Kabuto in deteriored state, was able to protect Naruto in the same state before Jiraya could do a seal, , Pein invasion when in the same state she overcame an anbu, Madara time when she intercepted his Katon before Mei did her hand seals) and intelligent which combined can overcome everything you said.
You still forget that the Second shinobi war was won because of her abilities, intelligence and combat type.

Yes, there are another reasons to pick a hokage not just strenght, yet she was picked. See where I'm aiming?