tobi = obito, is older than itachi but not ar apart in age. but for him to go kage level that fast as to fight the fourth?? im kinda comfused, only unless rin gave her life to save his, or madara saved his body, but for him to be stronger than orochimaru, idk, the next chapt should be fun, just leets hope it not a filler
[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions
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See!! I knew it...the only thing that concerns me is if thats obito, then who fought the yondaime? Its driving me nutz lmao Unless everything was written down in the uchicha tome...Kakashi must be daydreaming. I want to be right, but it just bothers me. Cant wait for next week.
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What if Tobi is just like Kakashi..? Wearing a mask that looks like Obito underneath his mask to mess with Kakashi in anticipation of his mask breaking during their battle? 
Obito's abilities were probably enhanced by the Zetsu parts used to save his life.
The real question is how did Madara live long enough to give Nagato the rinnegan and meet Obito since they apparently know each other.
The real question is how did Madara live long enough to give Nagato the rinnegan and meet Obito since they apparently know each other.
1. obito read the tablet
2. obito was older than itachi
3. kakashi was older than itachi
4. obito attacked the leaf one year after he died? can you kindly give me the link that says one year after obito died?
5. kakashi was already a jonin when the fox attacked the leaf...
I wonder why orichimaru is resurected and sasuke called him "The one who knows everething"
for my prediction "Orichimaru did a special ninjutsu to Obito's body (Like what he did to Yamato and Danzo) he use some cell of madara and put it to OBITO.
hahaha
... Nah, he resurrected Orochimaru to take him to "The one who knows everything". Somehow, I think Orochimaru has nothing to due with this plot.. o.o If he did, there wouldn't be any need to wanna steal Sasuke's body. Well... One Sharingan wouldn't really satisfy Orochimaru but yeah. :x
may be tobi has jutsu liked shape shifter (who knows) or may be tobi did used a body that he kept in what you called time dimension, when he fought with someone he just used the body that link with his opponent, liked when he fight with kakashi he just borrowed obito body. This will demolerized kakashi for sure. Why? because only kakashi could read his jutsu and beat him.
someone at work showed me a kishi interview the translation is a bit weird but it says he was drunk when he did this weeks chapter and it was all a mistake please someone conferm for me and if he's going to fix it some how because obito died before minato became hokage and now we have an obito flashback of minato on the stone faces as obito looks at him this contradicts a major part of the story that can't be ignored even if it is obito even if he was 14 years old that can be exsplaned but minato as hokage before gave his eye to kakashi can't
No duh, he was older than Itachi, Itachi isn't a factor in this part of the storyline.. Obito's seven months older than Kakashi.
It was one year, because the Nine-Tailed Fox's attack happened CURRENTLY 16 years ago. And at that time, both Kakashi and Obito would be 14. There's no page, it's simple calculation of the time of events and their age.
And yes, Kakashi was already a Jonin around the time Obito "died".
Obito wouldn't be able to read the tablet, his Sharingan wouldn't be advanced enough to decipher much of anything. Oh, and let's not forget he activated it the day he died... Even the most OP Uchiha: Sasuke, Madara, & Izuna didn't master theirs' to that degree in that short period of time, that'd just be asinine. And they were the Geniuses of the Uchiha including Itachi.. And what was Obito? A below average fodder of a failure Shinobi. There's no reasonable explanation for such a drastic change in power, height, and change in voice in less than a year..
Only excuse that could be given that's also asinine is that Obito mastered the first stage of Sharingan (Let's not forget he activated the Sharingan for the FIRST time the day he died), then totally obtained the Mangekyou Sharingan and Kamui'ed himself to safety... Which is also total bs.
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Interesting but has everyone forgotton what madara been saying though out his time in this part of the manga he been very much alive to a point of after the Nine tailed fox attacked the village.
couldn't the first mask man been a older madara it would make alot more sense to explain the first time we met the mask man or how he was able to sneak around the village and know where to find the hidden area where kushina was giving birth i very much doubt obito would of known about alot of the secert areas of the village since he wasnt very high on the chain of command.
than there the entire fight with minato i really doubt obito would of been able to gain that much amount of strenght unless he found some kishimoto instant power up jutsus.
but i all ways figured there where 2 masked men madara being the one that attacked the village and kill off his entire clan with itachi and tried to use the Nine tail fox to destroy it.
and obito taking on the role as the mask man and using madara name since everyone still fears the man and his name i believe that would atleast clear up some plotholes if madara and obito where working together than it just being obito by himself.
But we still have to see the next chapter for the final confirm if its truely obito
couldn't the first mask man been a older madara it would make alot more sense to explain the first time we met the mask man or how he was able to sneak around the village and know where to find the hidden area where kushina was giving birth i very much doubt obito would of known about alot of the secert areas of the village since he wasnt very high on the chain of command.
than there the entire fight with minato i really doubt obito would of been able to gain that much amount of strenght unless he found some kishimoto instant power up jutsus.
but i all ways figured there where 2 masked men madara being the one that attacked the village and kill off his entire clan with itachi and tried to use the Nine tail fox to destroy it.
and obito taking on the role as the mask man and using madara name since everyone still fears the man and his name i believe that would atleast clear up some plotholes if madara and obito where working together than it just being obito by himself.
But we still have to see the next chapter for the final confirm if its truely obito
MozillaEverer
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I figured Madara had to have a greater role of things during the beginning of the naruto seris since we never known when he died only known that he dead some years after the Nine tailed fox attacked the village.
when madara was revived he knew way to much of alot of event's that if he dead during his fight with the first hokage than he wouldnt of known who nagato was and knowing about the moon eye plan.
while we are waiting for Kishi to confirm if it the obito of the old team seven i all ways figured that the first time we seen the mask man it was madara fighting minato and it was madara going around the world causing all the chaos.
Still though Kishimoto would still have to fill in all the blanks since obito still doesnt make to much sense in the entire Naruto timeline.
your right about that but the real madara didn't reconize naruto or mention the forth hokage or kushina only mito the first's wife but itachi's flashback madara was taller and had the long hair same as the one at the mist village so at some point tobi took over for madara thats where the answer's will come when we find out when that happend
For the people who say obito couldnt control the nine tails...he has sharingan...which is how he could control him. Its been clear that sharingan can control the nine tails since the first episode of shippuden. Secondly, any ninja can make themselves look like another ninja, so he could have just used a simple justsu to look like madara. And lastly, It is a grown up version of Obito, so he had to have lived longer at least... Zetzu can take the form of anyone, but has never been known to create his own look, right?
I do not think that Tobi is obito if he is then kishi ****ed up pretty the story line he better have a really good explanation of y he choose to make tobi obito because Tobi s too old and too knowledge able unless he had some sensei on the sideline coachIng him OH EVEN THE resurrected madara uchiha seem like he knows who the masked man is keep that in mind too folks
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Well lets see um naruto has sage mode and since birth hes been a demon host. So he shoukdnt even count. But last i remember when naruto came back after 3 years of training he couldnt beat kakashi even with sakuras help. Even though he was trained by a j man. A sannin. He needed sage mode and help from frogs and hinata and the 9 tails to beat pein. But obito goes from below average to taking on the 4th freakin hokage. Yeah freakin right. Im not mad if tobi ends up really being obito. But that growth is ridiculous. Even sasukes growth comes from. Absorbing oro. Itachi implanting his MS techs. Taking itachis eyes.
Damn what a foolish chapter!
That masked guy is obito!
Kishi you must be kidding
as by following the story we know that it can't be him
because obito died before the fight b/t 4th and tobi
and at that time obito was just a kid so how can be him?
So even we assume that obito didn't die then how can he grew so fast and had a full control over kyuubi? and space time jutsu and such a superb combat ability?
That can't be so stop this foolishness come to the reality.
Hoping for a better chapter!
That masked guy is obito!
Kishi you must be kidding
as by following the story we know that it can't be him
because obito died before the fight b/t 4th and tobi
and at that time obito was just a kid so how can be him?
So even we assume that obito didn't die then how can he grew so fast and had a full control over kyuubi? and space time jutsu and such a superb combat ability?
That can't be so stop this foolishness come to the reality.
Hoping for a better chapter!
LaughingFace
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May be Obito had training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber:flaw: where kurama occassionally takes naruto for teaching him the FTGxd
hey everyone , i was thinking isn't it quite possible that the person who fought with 4th hokage was uchiha izuna(with the black and white mask) and he must've lead to konoha's destruction with help of kyubi . . .
And then he must've left his legacy to obito .
(just a thought no need of flaming)
And then he must've left his legacy to obito .
(just a thought no need of flaming)
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