Is there any proof that Tobi gave Nagato the Rinnegan?

[nj tandi]

I've been reading in threads that Tobi gave Nagato the Rinnegan like it's established fact.When was this confirmed?Did Tobi,the guy who lied about so many things suddenly become trustworthy?Am I missing something?

 

[Sasuke Ninja Way Reborn]

Tobi lied about the part where he gave Nagato the Rinnegan........it's Madara who gave Nagato the Rinnegan.

 

[MisterMario]

No he meant the sharingan unlocking the rinnegan, not literally giving him the rinnegan eyes.

 

[Flowland]

He told Konan that yes, and he also said to Kabuto afterwards. So we don't know for sure, but if it was anyone who gave Nagato those eyes it was Madara or someone entrusted by Madara alive at that time...

 

[teravita9]

Am I seeing threads that were made countless times...yes i do.

 

[MisterMario]

No he meant the sharingan unlocking the rinnegan, not literally giving him the rinnegan eyes.

i think...

 

[nj tandi]

I meant is there any proof that Tobi or anyone else gave any eyes to Nagato.Is it prove that Nagato didn't unlock the Rinnegan on his own?

 

[Gooner4life]

Logically speaking by what we know in the manga, it is impossible for Nagato to unlock his own rinnegan, that is proof enough.

 

[serpiente clan]

i will said this againd nagato rinnegan are his eye madara was dead went nagato was born

 

[nj tandi]

Logically speaking by what we know in the manga, it is impossible for Nagato to unlock his own rinnegan, that is proof enough.

And why is that?He is of Uzumaki descent,who are of Senju descent.He has red hair and it says so in Narutopedia.

 

[Marz001]

Madara was the only one with the Rinnegan since the Sage of 6 Paths eldest son. Nagato is a member of the Uzamaki due to his red hair. He's not an Uchiha only they can awaken those eyes. So that makes Madara the one who gave them to him. He even knows who Nagato is.

 

[Gooner4life]

And why is that?He is of Uzumaki descent,who are of Senju descent.He has red hair and it says so in Narutopedia.

The Uzumaki don't unlock the rinnegan, they get the sages body, Kabuto said himself, the rinnegan is the next stage of EMS, something given to the sages elder son, the Uchiha. Nagato is on the wrong side of the sages bloodline to obtain the rinnegan.

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

What I don't get is, some people say that madara gave Nagato the rinnegan, almost like he confirmed it. Plus they say you don't need senju blood to unlock rinnegan, like he confirmed it. What we do know is tobi told konan he gave nagato the rinnegan, but we know that's a lie and kabuto said that rinnegan is the evolution of sharingan, but we never got a confirmation that you don't need senju blood to activate rinnegan. Well we know that madara got senju dna after the fight with hashirama and he activated the rinnegan before he died wich was long after the fight. But some people keep saying it's a natural evolution of the sharingan...
Now we don't know much about the uzumaki clan, besides being distant relatives of senju and all we can do is speculate. So saying that uzumaki can't activate rinnegan can't be confirmed. We haven't been givin much information about the uzumaki clan, a clan wich our main character belongs to. Think about it, Kishi must be holding information back for some reason. But we know about the rinnegan, an ocular power that makes it's appearance when the world is in choas, wich means, you've got to experience some kind of trauma to activate it and we know Nagato experience pain when he's parents got killed, plus it was during war. So saying nagato couldn't of activated the rinnegan, is not a fact.

 

[Sasuke Ninja Way Reborn]

And why is that?He is of Uzumaki descent,who are of Senju descent.He has red hair and it says so in Narutopedia.

In order to unlock the Rinnegan you must have an Uchiha DNA and some people say you need Senju DNA to unlock it too, but that's not the case because Kabuto himself said the Rinnegan is the evolution of the Sharingan and Madara already had the EMS so after his fight with Hashirama he unlocked the Rinnegan throw some unknown ways, but i think Kishi may reveal to us how Madara gave Nagato the Rinnegan in later chapters.

 

[jt1891]

Uhm. You guys are making a big assumption, one that is obviously flawed; That the only way to awaken the Rinnegan is through the evolution of the Sharingan. The Sage of Six Paths did not start with the Sharingan, and none of his children had it either. In fact, the Elder Son had a totally different Doujutsu. My guess? You simply need the right combination of genes. Nagato had an Uzumaki mother and if I had to guess, an Uchiha-related father. While having parents from both clans wouldn't guarantee the Rinnegan, it provides a chance. One that Nagato obviously managed. There is no reason, aside from Tobi's words to Konan, to believe that Nagato's Rinnegan wasn't entirely natural.

 

[iSpeak]

Tobi was still talking from Madara's perspective at that time. Madara is the one who gave Nagato the Rinnegan.

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

I know everybody says that the uzumaki has the sage's body, but all facts that we really got is that senju has the sage's body and uchiha has the sage's eyes. But we never really got a confirmation that it also applies to the uzumaki clan. Well we can speculate that because they are relatives of senju and so it also applies to uzumaki. We got a remark from tobi that naruto resembles hashirama and so he is the body, while sasuke is the eyes. But the fact of the matter is, we don't know what the uzumaki are capable of or where they originated from.It hasn't actually been confirmed if the senju's inheritance of the sage's body also applies to the uzumaki, all we do is speculate, so saying Nagato couldn't of awakened the rinnegan can't be confirmed exactly... But that just my point of view.

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

We don't know if it's a natural evolution of the sharingan, all we know is that madara got hashi's dna and later unlocked rinnegan. He must of read the tablet and saw the way to unlock rinnegan, why else would he steal some of hashi's dna?

 

[jt1891]

Tobi was still talking from Madara's perspective at that time. Madara is the one who gave Nagato the Rinnegan.

Uhm, no. Tobi lies like he breathes to manipulate people. Most likely, he simply said that to provoke Konan. Until Madara tells us with his own lips that he gave Nagato the Rinnegan, there is no reason to believe that.

 

[iSpeak]

Uhm, no. Tobi lies like he breathes to manipulate people. Most likely, he simply said that to provoke Konan. Until Madara tells us with his own lips that he gave Nagato the Rinnegan, there is no reason to believe that.

Tobi said it to Kabuto when they were alone aswell. Why would he say it to Kabuto even though he already knows Tobi isn't Madara? Plus there are a million hints that his Rinnegan was implanted, such as not being able to deactivate it and Kishi covering his eyes before his Rinneganw as revealed. It has been stated that the Rinnegan is the final stage of the Sharingan (which is why the Rinnegan can decipher all of the Uchiha monument) so if you believe he unlocked it, you must also believe it is possible to unlock MS or EMS straight away aswell. Which obviously isn't true.