[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions
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Other than the awful and abvious plot of Tobi being Obito. It prove my point for the last year(since Tobi told Kakashi after Sasuke fought Kakashi that his MS eye won't have a affect on him) that Tobi & Kakashi eye are a pair and each can perform one part of Kamui. Kakashi can transport people or items to that other dimension by shooting Kamui from a far and Tobi Obito can self absorb himself and who ever he touch to the other dimension. Not that any of the two are more advance than the other(outside of Kakashi not having enough chakra to perform Kamui as many time, unless he get the first Hokage cells or better yet Naruto the born power up cells).
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UchihaKiller
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Hey... That actually shows that Tobi was not Madara though it would be near impossible to guess that when chapter 401 came out.
Reason is that when Kisame was recruited first person to speak to Kisame was Mizukage and then Kisame realizes Mizukage was sort of puppet in the hands of Tobi with Madara's hairdo. But right after seeing Tobi without mask Kisame says, "I would never have guessed". If it was indeed Madara, I don't think Kisame would say that. Then Kisame goes on to say that "Mizukage sama OR Madara-san". Kisame is being sarcastic when he says that. Sort of amazed by how Obito kept his identity hidden.
I don't still believe Tobi is Obito although I have always supported the fact that Tobi is Obito but I am beginning to doubt it.
I think Tobi has d ability to switch faces... If u look at him against Minato, he was light skinned; and the against Konan when his mask was broken he appeared black. when he revealed himself to Kisame, he must have had a different face because Kisame called him Madara... Of which I also think Tobi started wearing masks like Madara to impersonate or resemble him. If u look at the Masked man while talking to Itachi about wiping the clan, he had Madara's long hair and when he control Mizukage, he also had long hairs. I think along the line Madara's time came and they both decided to give PAIN d rennigan since it needed senju chakra to work (uzumaki clan is part of senju and they have red hair so Nagato is an Uzumaki), after which Tobi took over the real Madara's mask as a reminded of his mission and to swap IDs.
I think Obito must have survived that crush somehow, and then he was found by Oro or Madara or even both because Oro seems to know a lot. So he must have been helped with Zetsu body and probably Madara or Izuna senjutsu was poured into him jet like Oro's curse seal, but I don't think its Madara because if it were Madara he wouldn't doubt if Tobi will accomplish his mission. However one thing is clear, Madara knew Tobi, probably trained him as well and discussed his plan for the future.
There is already a huge possibility that Tobi is trying to make Kakashi soft because without Kakashi d battle would be easy for him and he can teleport easily without Kakashi's Kamui interfering. So on that note, I would say Tobi is just pretending to be Obito to soften the confrontation. Tobi is a shape shifter
I believe Tobi still has a lot in his tank, unless there is a plot no jutsu because Tobi does have other powers and he knows so many techniques plus having Obito/Kakashi eye means he can easily copy techniques like Kakashi and we all know that; like Madara, Tobi probably has the Senju cells as well because its clearly planted there in their hideout and he has zetsu as well... so it is clear that Tobi hasn't even started using his powers, may be these guys (Naruto, Kakashi and Guy) are already in a genjutsu, that shouldn't be far fetched for a guy that profusely wants to use infinite tsukyomi (he must have strong genjutsu)
Kishi is just using his genjutsu on all his fans, but with time we will find out d truth
I think Tobi has d ability to switch faces... If u look at him against Minato, he was light skinned; and the against Konan when his mask was broken he appeared black. when he revealed himself to Kisame, he must have had a different face because Kisame called him Madara... Of which I also think Tobi started wearing masks like Madara to impersonate or resemble him. If u look at the Masked man while talking to Itachi about wiping the clan, he had Madara's long hair and when he control Mizukage, he also had long hairs. I think along the line Madara's time came and they both decided to give PAIN d rennigan since it needed senju chakra to work (uzumaki clan is part of senju and they have red hair so Nagato is an Uzumaki), after which Tobi took over the real Madara's mask as a reminded of his mission and to swap IDs.
I think Obito must have survived that crush somehow, and then he was found by Oro or Madara or even both because Oro seems to know a lot. So he must have been helped with Zetsu body and probably Madara or Izuna senjutsu was poured into him jet like Oro's curse seal, but I don't think its Madara because if it were Madara he wouldn't doubt if Tobi will accomplish his mission. However one thing is clear, Madara knew Tobi, probably trained him as well and discussed his plan for the future.
There is already a huge possibility that Tobi is trying to make Kakashi soft because without Kakashi d battle would be easy for him and he can teleport easily without Kakashi's Kamui interfering. So on that note, I would say Tobi is just pretending to be Obito to soften the confrontation. Tobi is a shape shifter
I believe Tobi still has a lot in his tank, unless there is a plot no jutsu because Tobi does have other powers and he knows so many techniques plus having Obito/Kakashi eye means he can easily copy techniques like Kakashi and we all know that; like Madara, Tobi probably has the Senju cells as well because its clearly planted there in their hideout and he has zetsu as well... so it is clear that Tobi hasn't even started using his powers, may be these guys (Naruto, Kakashi and Guy) are already in a genjutsu, that shouldn't be far fetched for a guy that profusely wants to use infinite tsukyomi (he must have strong genjutsu)
Kishi is just using his genjutsu on all his fans, but with time we will find out d truth
Naruto Boss
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otherwise from seeing tobi this is the worst manga that i have ever read or seen since there was not a lot of reading to be done
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It was kinda cool how there was no talking or thoughts or anything and that we had to infer what exactly everyone was thinking and what happened. It was nice.
Obito is Tobi (although I'd like a little more info). I Lol'd SO HARD! All the haters gonna hate. All the people who got it right are gonna brag and I'm gonna sit here and laugh at the flame wars. xd
Obito is Tobi (although I'd like a little more info). I Lol'd SO HARD! All the haters gonna hate. All the people who got it right are gonna brag and I'm gonna sit here and laugh at the flame wars. xd
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it can't be madara doesn't have obito ms, unless he implanted himself like itachi does to sasuke with the amaterasu!!!! or is it bye the bloodline they shared???
it can't be madara doesn't have obito ms, unless he implanted himself like itachi does to sasuke with the amaterasu!!!! or is it bye the bloodline they shared???
To all who are confused why tobi is obito let me explain. Yes he fought the fourth hokage, but many are wondering how could he gained so much skill. Well look at sasuke. He took on the kages with the fully mastered Mangyekyo sharingan. And look how much more power he gained when he unlocked the power of 1 eye. Then if you look at the battle of tobi and the fourth hokage would you really say that tobi was giving him a run for his money. the entire time it looked like minato was tapping that butt, and all tobi was doing was slipping through attacks. What im really trying to say is after the "death" of obito there was a lot of time for him to train and get better and the uchia as tobi said "have relentless bodies that can handle battle numerous times" kinda reminds me of the saiyans of dragonballz.
Well it'll be Epic if Obito turns to be THE bad guy from the very beginning and improvise his attack and death. Sounds crazy but nobody knows. And then his body is used as a vesel thanks to Orochimaru... If not I think the right side of Obito is white Zetsu and Zetsu is the guy pulling the strings from the start.
Another theory - there are two masked men ,one Obito and one "the real masked man" , we all know that for 16 years in narutoworld you can become all badass and genius in all aspects, not to mention copy of a persona... If not, for 16 years Zetsu has been brainwashing Obito turning him into fake Madara.
What you think guys? Totally crazy, maybe ,but dunno since today's chapter, Kishi closed one big chapter and opened one Bigger !! Peace \/
Another theory - there are two masked men ,one Obito and one "the real masked man" , we all know that for 16 years in narutoworld you can become all badass and genius in all aspects, not to mention copy of a persona... If not, for 16 years Zetsu has been brainwashing Obito turning him into fake Madara.
What you think guys? Totally crazy, maybe ,but dunno since today's chapter, Kishi closed one big chapter and opened one Bigger !! Peace \/
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Sentinelsgalore
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I want an explanation of allot of things:
1. obito wasnt alive to give nagato the rinnegan
2. why did obito have two sharingans when he faced Konan
3. How does Obito have all this knowledge about the ninja world
4. How was Obito old enough to fight the fourth
5. Did Obito control Yagura and help itachi during the massacre or was it someone else
6. How did Obito get his Mangekyou
7. Why did Obito change his feelings about scum abandoning teammates to the world is a cruel place where promises aren't fulfilled.
8. How did Obito even survive the boulder
1. obito wasnt alive to give nagato the rinnegan
2. why did obito have two sharingans when he faced Konan
3. How does Obito have all this knowledge about the ninja world
4. How was Obito old enough to fight the fourth
5. Did Obito control Yagura and help itachi during the massacre or was it someone else
6. How did Obito get his Mangekyou
7. Why did Obito change his feelings about scum abandoning teammates to the world is a cruel place where promises aren't fulfilled.
8. How did Obito even survive the boulder
Umari Senju
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you guys say you wont read Naruto anymore because Tobi is Obito but you know you're going to keep reading it ;-) besides...there is one simple reason it could very well be Obito. Something the real Madara said to Kabuto. upon his death his Sharingan developed into the RINNAGAN. Obito said it himself to Konan himself; he gave the Rinnagan to Nagato. meaning it was his to begin with. he probably didnt die when that boulder crushed him. he probably developed the Rinnagan and used that reanimation summon thing that one path of the rikudo had( i cant remember what it's called) to free himself. the events after that...well...thats up to kishimoto. im fine with it being Obito though.
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 600 Predictions and 599 Discussions
Anyway, the chapter itself was pretty lame imho.
Edit: One more thing to add to the list - why would Kabuto showing his "trump card" - aka edo tensin of Madara - be threatening to Obito?
This list sums it up for me. The plot holes are just too much. It might be Obito's body, but it certainly isn't Obito outright. Obito + Madara makes way more sense.
Anyway, the chapter itself was pretty lame imho.
Edit: One more thing to add to the list - why would Kabuto showing his "trump card" - aka edo tensin of Madara - be threatening to Obito?
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Umari Senju
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This is Madness.....
To the TOBITO people, :ice:
Can this be a posibility?
tobito is just edo? controlled by another scumbag, maybe izuna?
wachathink?
I know the title of issue 600. "Apologies" or "Retraction".
Yeah kishi, you either retract issue 599 or apologize for trolling so much.
To the TOBITO people, :ice:
Can this be a posibility?
tobito is just edo? controlled by another scumbag, maybe izuna?
wachathink?
I know the title of issue 600. "Apologies" or "Retraction".
Yeah kishi, you either retract issue 599 or apologize for trolling so much.
Umari Senju
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and you asume the tobi that fought the 4th was an adult. that might have been Obito in his late teens or early 20's. there were years between that incident and now. that's alot of time for obito to learn his history, he was, after all, impersonating Madara.
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