Why people always seems to forget Itachis low stamina in every debate?

Bogard

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I know some Itachi fans would flame, but before flaming please read. I wanted to settle some things that i think people are forgetting highly :)

When i look at some Itachis threads, people seem to believe Itachi can just spamm his MS techniques without side effects. I find it funny the way people think he will just use Tsukiyomi, Amaterasu or Susanoo in a row without taking into consideration these aspects.

People seem to think that Edo Itachi and alive Itachi are the same, but it's wrong. You forget that alive Itachi didn't had infinite stamina live Edo Itachi. Alive Itachi is the one who had always side effects of his jutsus:

  • - Against Kakashi, here you can see that Kisame warns Itachi not to use Tsukiyomi cuz it's dangerous for him as well:
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  • You can even see on the next page some "symbols" near Itachi meaning he was tired, you can even see him sweating:
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  • Something that Kakashi noticed also when they met the second time in part2 and he even says it's the reason why he was looking for the retreat at that time(his body needed to rest a bit):
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  • - Again, against Sasuke again after Tsukiyomi, look at the side effect:
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  • - After Amaterasu(Sasuke even noticed it took a lot of him):
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So, it's not for nothing that Itachi didn't used MS a lot when he was alive. But people seems to think he can just spamm it without side effects. It's because it was dangerous for his body as well. He needs rest after each MS attacks, which could give opportunities for the opponent to strike. He is not Sasuke who has seemingly unlimited chakra boosted by hatred. Itachi has low stamina in comparison. That's why it's even stated in databook that he had 2.5/5 in stamina

Now, there are certain things that people always say when they talk about Itachis stamina: "he was sick". Firstly what i want to say is that personally i don't see where illness affect stamina. Illness makes you only weaker(that means your reaction, speed, or somethings are weaker), but it doesn't affect the chakra level. Proof is that Kimimaro who was sick has 4.5/5 in stamina in databook

And even if it affects, yes, he was sick, so what? Isn't Nagato crippled? Wasn't Kimimaro sick also? It's their current state. Kishimoto wanted them to be like that. We don't even know when Itachi caught his illness. Not even sure that in part1 for example, he was already sick. There are certain things we don't know. So if we don't know, i think we must consider his power level like it was stated by Kishimoto in the manga.

By this logic i can recreate my manga by giving Nagato his feets, making Kimimaro healthy, giving Kakashi Hashiramas or Uchiwa DNA. By this logic all of them would have been drastically stronger, but no, Kishimoto didn't wanted that cuz it's the fact. Itachi was sick at that moment, and we can't change that

Now you can flame if you want, i already said what i wanted to say :)
 

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He used 4 Mangekyo techniques against, Sasuke, (2x Amaterasu, Susano'o, and Tsukuyomi) and maintained susanoo on its highest form that he had available for a few minutes. Not to mention a fuiinjutsu he prepared and some genjutsu, crows, and a firestyle tech, ALL WHILE HE WAS ON THE BRINK OF DEATH, BLIND, not in his prime, and had a disease/illness. Your thread is invalid before Itachi's mighty feats.
 

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He used 4 Mangekyo techniques against, Sasuke, (2x Amaterasu, Susano'o, and Tsukuyomi) and maintained susanoo on its highest form that he had available for a few minutes. Not to mention a fuiinjutsu he prepared and some genjutsu, crows, and a firestyle tech, ALL WHILE HE WAS ON THE BRINK OF DEATH, BLIND, not in his prime, and had a disease/illness. Your thread is invalid before Itachi's mighty feats.

This is so true. The guy's stamina and chakra is insane.
 

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He doesn't have low stamina u fail if u observed the sasuke vs itachi fight u wud know that

He was fighting using purely genjutsu for half the fight u know how much chakra that takez?
Plus sussano
Us katon techs
He uses tysukuyomi
Shadow crow clones
Amaterasu

He has average or above normal chakra reserves

###FA THREAD
 

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He used 4 Mangekyo techniques against, Sasuke, (2x Amaterasu, Susano'o, and Tsukuyomi) and maintained susanoo on its highest form that he had available for a few minutes. Not to mention a fuiinjutsu he prepared and some genjutsu, crows, and a firestyle tech, ALL WHILE HE WAS ON THE BRINK OF DEATH, BLIND, not in his prime, and had a disease/illness. Your thread is invalid before Itachi's mighty feats.
Read my thread before posting please. I'm talking about side effects of his jutsus
 

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He used 4 Mangekyo techniques against, Sasuke, (2x Amaterasu, Susano'o, and Tsukuyomi) and maintained susanoo on its highest form that he had available for a few minutes. Not to mention a fuiinjutsu he prepared and some genjutsu, crows, and a firestyle tech, ALL WHILE HE WAS ON THE BRINK OF DEATH, BLIND, not in his prime, and had a disease/illness. Your thread is invalid before Itachi's mighty feats.

Lets gooooo
 

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He used 4 Mangekyo techniques against, Sasuke, (2x Amaterasu, Susano'o, and Tsukuyomi) and maintained susanoo on its highest form that he had available for a few minutes. Not to mention a fuiinjutsu he prepared and some genjutsu, crows, and a firestyle tech, ALL WHILE HE WAS ON THE BRINK OF DEATH, BLIND, not in his prime, and had a disease/illness. Your thread is invalid before Itachi's mighty feats.

this for the most part, but i agree people forget his low stamina and seem to think he has unlimited chakra when healthy :sy:. but he probably has great chakra control and can use ms techs to the bare minimum. he shouldt be underrated heavily because of it, people also seem to forget he doesnt always use ms techniques and can use less chakra taxing techs as well -_-.
 

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Thank you. Ive been stressing this for the longest on this site but the fanboys pretend it isn't there. His piss poor stamina would be his downfall in every battle he is involved in. +rep bogard
 

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I have never considered Itachi a low stamina guy. But it says in databook that his stamina is 2.5 which is pretty low and it crashes his stats.
 

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2.5 in the databooks. Says it all really.
 

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itachi may have low stamina, but its just like kakashi
 

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He used 4 Mangekyo techniques against, Sasuke, (2x Amaterasu, Susano'o, and Tsukuyomi) and maintained susanoo on its highest form that he had available for a few minutes. Not to mention a fuiinjutsu he prepared and some genjutsu, crows, and a firestyle tech, ALL WHILE HE WAS ON THE BRINK OF DEATH, BLIND, not in his prime, and had a disease/illness. Your thread is invalid before Itachi's mighty feats.
His thread is incorrect, he lacks low chakra not stamina. It doesn't matter anyway Itachi was still a great ninja even among uchiha. PERIOD :itachi:
 

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To be fair, the only time we've seen him seriously fight in Shippuden is when he was sick and when he was an Edo. Hard to base someone's stamina off of that.
 

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To be fair, the only time we've seen him seriously fight in Shippuden is when he was sick and when he was an Edo. Hard to base someone's stamina off of that.
You forget the mini fight against Kakashi in part1. You also forget that he said with 30% of his chakra, he can't use MS technique. That shows how his stamina is not that great.

But anyway like i've said, it's part of the character. We can't just forget his sickness and begin to imagine another Itachi
itachi may have low stamina, but its just like kakashi
Not really. Kishi said that Kakashi has greater stamina in his book
 

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Makes up for it with his chakra control. Even with such low reserves he still manages to activate his sharingan constantly outside of battle like a bawse and thats enough
 

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He has low chakra level than Kakashi, who has 3 in the databooks, while Itachi only has 2.5. However he has great chakra control but the MS side effects does not exactly help him.
 

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He turned off his sharingan completely after using ms techs 3 times in part 1. His clone with 30% of his chakra couldnt use ms techs at all,his databoook stats are a 2.5 in chakra,he died after using more than 3 ms techs against sasuke. I dont think there is much argument here,people just ignore it.
 

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Itachi used several Genjutsus, two Katon Jutsus, Tsukuyomi, 4x Amaterasu and Susanoo for about 10 minutes while being deadly sick. He even stopped using his essential medicaments which were keeping him alive, in order to reach his limit faster against Sasuke.

People who say that Itachi reaches his limit after two Amaterasu are stupid.
 

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Itachi used several Genjutsus, two Katon Jutsus, Tsukuyomi, 4x Amaterasu and Susanoo for about 10 minutes while being deadly sick. He even stopped using his essential medicaments which were keeping him alive, in order to reach his limit faster against Sasuke.

People who say that Itachi reaches his limit after two Amaterasu are stupid.
Bold part is total wrong. He used one genjutsu, 2Amaterasu and the Susanoo didn't took 10minutes, that's total BS. Not even sure it took 1minute

And again between all those jutsus, you forget the side effect(what i'm talking about here). He didn't reached his limits after the 2Amaterasu, but like Sasuke said, it took a lot of him. That's why he couldn't even dodge Sasukes katon after the 2Amaterasu:
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1. fanboy's be in denial
2. what edo itachi has done

Itachi has low stamina, records show it so no debate here.
 
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