My definition of a "Double Mangekyou". (Read this sasugay fans)

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My definition of a "Double Mangekyou". (Read this sasuke fans)

Sasuke stated that in order for one to achieve the power of susanoo, he must have a "double" mangekyou.

Observe:
Have you all noticed that all other MS users besides Madara and Itachi and Sasuke, have the SAME abilities in BOTH eyes? For example Obito has Kamui in both of his and the power of his eyes do not differentiate at all. Same goes Shisui who has only KA in both of his eyes....

Interpretation:
To have susanoo you DON'T need amaturasu and tsykiyomi, but you rather must have different MS techniques in EACH eye. I believe that is why sasukay never said you must have amaturasu and tsykiyomi. That also adds on to why sasuke can't use tsykiyomi, but rather than a generic MS sharingan like Madara. Go read the fight with kabuto again. He never said Tsykiyomi when he genjutsud Itachi while Itachi did say it. Even more proof is that Itachi was able to control kabuto with the same technique that sasuke used on a hidden cloud village when he was trying to find bee. Itachi did not use Tsykiyomi, but rather a generic MS technique, same as what sasuke and Madara have. He used his eye that posses the ability of amaturasu to control him. Makes sense no?

The reason Sasuke has Susanoo though:
Sasuke does have ANOTHER ability in his right eye. That's the power to CONTROL the amaturasu flames. That's his other ability that granted him susanoo. So Sasuke doesn't have Tsykiyomi but still a rather powerful MS genjutsu.


It all ties in perfectly.

Notice: When Itachi crippled Kabuto, he was blind in the eye which possessed his ability to use Tsykiyomi. Yet he still was able to control Kabuto without it. Why? Because every MS user has a generic MS sharingan genjutsu, which can be used to control other people or the kyubi, but not as big as the scale of Tsykiyomi and KA. Tobi didn't have Tsykiyomi, but still controlled the kyubi.
 
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Er no. Also - rep for being childish.
Fed up of seeing sasugay
 

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so your taking what sasuke saying as a real prove? man that char dont know his right from his left >_>
good point btw
 
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No, you need tsukoyomi and ameterasu. Its been explicitly stated.
 

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I dont get why you had to call him Sasugay...But Yea it makes sense. Good Analysis.
 

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Unnecessary title.
 

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After I read sasugay...stopped readingU_U
 

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If you had any brain you would know you need Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi to unlock Susanoo and stop this childish names.
 

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So what Sasuke says over what Kishi directly states in the databook. Seems legit xd

PS: Don't stoop to fanboy level, this thread would have been taken seriously if you didn't start it like that because it is good.
 

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Using sasugay shows your biased and destroys the professionalism of your post

As for the Double Mangekyou, it is possible but no Obito's Eyes use Tobi's abilities and Kamui which counts as 2 the last time i checked
 

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I don't think this is right. Unlocking the different eye techniques has to do with whatever is written on the shrine. Some people are destined for some techniques, others are destined with Kamui and KA. It really has nothing to do with whether or not you have Tsuki or Amaterasu.

Personally, I believe that people who are related closely enough (father, son, brother, grandfather, great grandfather, etc.), basically those who have passed down the genes in their respective families, can unlock the same techniques that their predecessors once had. That's why Shisui and Obito had completely different MS techniques, whereas Sasuke and Itachi had the same techniques. But then, this also means that sasuke and Itachi could potentially be related to Madara (which doesn't seem so far fetched).
 

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So what Sasuke says over what Kishi directly states in the databook. Seems legit xd

PS: Don't stoop to fanboy level, this thread would have been taken seriously if you didn't start it like that because it is good.

I was fed up with Sasuke fan boys claiming crap that don't make sense.
 

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Indeed, only those who have two mangekyo techniques are able to awaken the third power Susano'o. Sasuke has never used tsukiyomi, they only refer it as a illusion. Madara hasn't used amaterasu even though it would have been useful in many situation.

Also you make yourself look childish when you call Sasuke as ''sasugay''. I'd -rep you, but I'm not in bad mood so you're lucky this time.
 

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I'll take what the databooks have to say rather than your word.
 

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I don't think this is right. Unlocking the different eye techniques has to do with whatever is written on the shrine. Some people are destined for some techniques, others are destined with Kamui and KA. It really has nothing to do with whether or not you have Tsuki or Amaterasu.

Personally, I believe that people who are related closely enough (father, son, brother, grandfather, great grandfather, etc.), basically those who have passed down the genes in their respective families, can unlock the same techniques that their predecessors once had. That's why Shisui and Obito had completely different MS techniques, whereas Sasuke and Itachi had the same techniques. But then, this also means that sasuke and Itachi could potentially be related to Madara (which doesn't seem so far fetched).

Okay but this kinda goes with my point.
 

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If you had any brain you would know you need Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi to unlock Susanoo and stop this childish names.
Then how did Madara awake Susanoo? That is possible for Itachi.

Susanoo is rare, not everyone gets it. I believe you need to have dark chakra (that's why Sasuke got Susanoo in his most 'evil' time)
 

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Okay but this kinda goes with my point.

No. People who unlock susanoo MUST have tsukiyomi AND amaterasu. It has been stated in the manga AND databook. What I'm saying, is that not all uchihas with MS can unlock those three techniques. Im saying that based on how closely related you are to the uchiha founder, you get different techniques. And basically, no one can state anything at this point, because NO ONE knows whats written on the tablet.
 

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You people here are becoming a bit too obssesive over a fictional characters name..... Lol the Base is in fact going down hill since I've been here.

Every time......
 
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