Orochimaru was always the Strongest of the Sannin

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Tsunade> Orochimaru> Jiraiya> Tsunade> Orochimaru> Jiraiya etc.

 

[cyco22]

ya he is strongest of all time:ice:

 

[Kikki]

Like in every team, all three of them have their unique specials and abilities. None of them is worthless or weak so I won`t join with the people who call Jiraiya or Tsunade weak.

I found it sad I`ve never seen Jiraiya at his prime. I`m sure he was alot more impressive than when he fought Oro or Pain. Also Tsunade tanking Madara`s hits impresses the hell out of me. Her sheer will makes her one hell of a character.

But to answer to the question of this thread, yes, Oro is probably the smartest and hardest to beat of the sannin. Physically not the strongest but probably overall the most powerful one of them all. Must be because he has badguy-Bonus.

His variety of skills and attacks is just amazing and he is probably unbeatable in general when he is at full health. Only reason he got defeated was because a person that he trusted took their chance to kill him when he was weak and helpless. And even when he was helpless, he probably could have stood against alot of average people in the story.

 

[shadowcage]

Their not weak we all can agree but out of all of them one has to be the strongest and i think its orochimaru

 

[GreenV]

Quoted from Narutopedia.

The world wide game "scissors, paper, stone" originated from China during the Eastern Han Dynasty (25-220), invented by the warlords of that period. Except instead of paper, they used the open palm symbol to represent cloth, so it's "Scissors, Stone, Cloth". The game reached Japan in the early 1640s and one variation of the game was the "Slug, Snake, Frog" variation. In this variation, the Frog is afraid of the Snake, the Snake is afraid of the Slug, and the Slug is afraid of the Frog. This is influenced by the Sansukumi way of thinking where it keeps the three objects in a deadlock. The fact that the Sannin use these three animals as summons may be the author hinting that there is no stronger one among them, and that their strength is more or less equal.

 

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[Narutoisgodly]

oro is stronger he can never die as long as he plants the curse marks on people but there is a 50% chance of them dying though

 

[ucHiHa xyN]

I think it's obvious. With all these forbidden jutsu. He was (almost or idk) on par with the four-tailed version of Kyuubi, while Jiraiya hardly handled the same Kyuubi with a sealing technique which he had already prepared before but still got a severe injury.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Quoted from Narutopedia.

The fact that the Sannin use these three animals as summons may be the author hinting that there is no stronger one among them, and that their strength is more or less equal.

This^^

 

[rakwan uzamaki]

Fanboi this thread had been many times Jman solos all cry at home if u dont like

 

[ChakraThreadz]

i agree with that..the most fascinating thing with oro he's a escape artist able to counter hiruzen' demon seal. well as qouted the man who knows everything..

 

[genii96]

Obviously Jiraiya is the strongest. When Orochimaru's disciples start blowing up villages in one attack then we can start comparing.

kabuto with edo tensei will beat all of them together,and he was oro's student.
Oro already beat jiraiya,and again while he was armless,hiruzen claimed noone could beat him at the time while jiraiya was still there.

 

[Uchiha Siame]

Likewise but Many member's disagree, or say there on the same level, i could see why though, Jman's pretty powerful but i think oro has a slight edge over him.

Lets just put it thus way..if Oro faced pain, he would have discoverd th secret real fast, swallowed up all summons(with his), puked a new body when his arm got cut, and healed his wounds real fast

 

[soulreaper11]

Have you read the Japanese novel Snake,Toad, and Slug. Snake>Toad,Toad>Slug, and Slug>Snake which makes them equal.

manga not a novel Nauto not snake,toad,slug we go by what we read in the manga not by outside books. oro with edo > tsunade and jiarya. it was evidence that jiaraya could of defeated oro back then from what he say but we do not know if oro had sage mode at the time so to say jiraya is stronger we need to know if oro had sage mode when they fought so until then jiaraya=oro. tsunade I think could of been stronger if she had wood style but she does not and their is a limit to how much she can heal so jiraya and oro> tsunade.

 

[blazekev90]

Who many times does Orochimaru have to **** Jman up in order for y'all to know Oro owns him. There's more than enough info and hype that proves/supposes the idea of Oro being superior to Jman, whether it was the 3rd favoring him, being choosen for Hokage, being called a genus once every decade (or whatever it was) them both basically admitting how Jman was inferior, snake>toad legend or seeing Oro completely own him with NO USE OF ARMS LMAO

 

[eevy]

orochimaru is Boss!

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Orochimaru is the most resilient(Bastard just won't die)

the most determined, is Tsunade

the most tanacious, was Jaraiya

 

[KyuubiUzumaki]

Go back and watch the episode, Manda was controlling the entire fight. It went something like this.

Katsuyu uses Acid Slime, Manda dodges, constricts Katsuyu
Manda goes to strike Tsunade, Gamabunta goes to stab Manda.
Manda reacts and catches the sword in his mouth.
Katsuyu splits herself, and regathers, Gamabunta jumps back.
Manda throws sword at Bunta, Bunta dodges, sword lands in front of Katsuyu and Tsunade.
Jiraiya and Bunta use Fire Style: Toad Flame Bomb on Manda, Manda substitutes out of it and goes underground.
They FEEL him coming underground, but he fools them with his tail, and strikes from behind.
Tsunade comes out of nowhere with Bunta's sword and finishes the battle of the giant summons.

Manda easily dodged or countered every attack and easily got the jump on them.
Kishimoto stated himself, Snakes beat Frogs. It's just the natural order of things.

Also, as far I've seen there is no character in the series at any point other than Tsunade depicted to be strong enough to lift a giant sword a hundred times larger than his or her self.

As far as Frog Song, my argument was that the only way it can work is in a situation like the one with Nagato, in a setting that's basically a giant maze. The only reason it worked is because Jiraiya was able to hide from them. If Orochimaru and Jiraiya are in an open battlefield like where the three sannin fought, then Frog Song just can't work, because Orochimaru isn't going to sit there and just let him activate it. It requires too much prep time. And as far as any distractions, be real, do you think a Shadow Clone will hold Orochimaru for more than a few seconds? For every one of Jiraiya's frogs, Orochimaru has a giant snake waiting. So whether or not Frog Song is Orochimaru's achilles heel all depends on the setting of the fight.

Well I reckon they are pretty even but I am tending towards Jiraya, from what I have seen. This debate has a lot of opinion, and however much you feel that the others are just downright wrong, if they think that Orochimaru is stronger, or Jiraya is stronger, then that is their opinion, not much can be done.

Anyway, the reason I am slightly tending towards Jiraya is because:
Firstly, we know that Itachi beat Orochimaru pretty comprehensively on more than one occasion. However, the same itachi was unwilling to go face to face with Jiraya, claiming at best, he could only stalemate. Even though ABC logic does not always apply in Naruto, there is some sense here, and I don't want to go into detail into an Itachi vs Jiraya debate. Also, we know that Jiraya gave a really impressive fight against Pain, and Nagato states that with prior knowledge, Jiraya might have won. Quite a statement, from someone who is equal to or greater than itachi, once again not getting into an argumentative flame war on who is better. Facts are facts, but we can see what we want to see.

Also, about Orochimaru not standing there and taking it, I think this is an extremely valid point, and there is a lot of truth in that. However, remember, in SM, Jirayas speed is drastically increased, along with tai jutsu techs, like the super strength etc.

About the sword lifting business, remember when naruto lifted that gigantic statue with natural energy? Yea, JMan can as well I am guessing. And that fight, was really not the best indicator on anything, as Jiraya was drugged by Tsunade, which prevented him from using his chakra well.

 

[piemaster102]

orochimaru took on 4 tails naruto way better than jaraiya did, while orochimaru wouldnt have won, i think its safe to say he did a better job than jaraiya, but i would still say they are pretty even, just orochimaru has a slight advantage.

 

[LifelessKyuubi]

In my opinion jiraiya=orochimaru SM Jiraiya > orochimaru with difficulty