Orochimaru was always the Strongest of the Sannin

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

According to what suigetsu said, sasuke has 0 chance of beating orochimaru if his arms weren't sealed. It also seems that sasuke accepted this somewhat. So by that, I do believe Oro>J-man.

No don't twist words thats not what they said they were used to re- establish oro's hype take into consideration how easily itachi beat him it would be jus as easy for sasuke

Orochimaru >>> jiraiya because talent & intelligence

 

[UzumakiNaruto20]

Yes, this is true. But here's the problem with THAT point. You're acting like Orochimaru is just going to sit there and tank everything. The main advantage that Orochimaru has over Jiraiya is that Orochimaru can recover from a seemingly fatal blow. Jiraiya can't. Orochimaru has just as many offences as defenses. Sword of Kusanagi, his ability to contort his body in unnatural ways, Snake summons, his ten thousand snake creation jutsu, his extendable tounge, Striking shadow snakes, Eight Branches, etc, etc.

Alright, at this point i'll concede that they are even, with edo tensei and SM being trump cards.

That's only because there are A LOT of irrational people in the world. If you look at Canada all the people who vote for the NDP are irrational and that is a lot.

And I could also say that our Republicans are irrational. For every one of them you call irrational I'm sure there is one that would call YOU irrational. We all pick our sides.

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

That is not the only way he can win. Orochimaru has chakra levels just like everyone else. He had to break off his fight with Naruto because they were getting low. As long as Jiraiya can force him to keep fighting he will eventually run out and die while Jiraiya has SM chakra to fall back on.

False orochimaru chakra is both powerful & happens to be large against kyubi that wasn't the reason he stopped his body started rejecting him not low chakra he literally played around with four tail kyubi

 

[DevonV]

Alright, at this point i'll concede that they are even, with edo tensei and SM being trump cards.



And I could also say that our Republicans are irrational. For every one of them you call irrational I'm sure there is one that would call YOU irrational. We all pick our sides.

I dont know much about the USA political system but all I can say is that based on my political views the only people who would find me irrational are basically any one on the left hand side of the political spectrum.

 

[SatchiZurake]

Alright, at this point i'll concede that they are even, with edo tensei and SM being trump cards.

Congrats on being my first debate on the forum, it's been nice debating with you.

I think the flame war should stop. UzumakiNaruto20 didn't at any time make a point without backing it up. He had reasonings behind all of his statements.

 

[UzumakiNaruto20]

Congrats on being my first debate on the forum, it's been nice debating with you.

I think the flame war should stop. UzumakiNaruto20 didn't at any time make a point without backing it up. He had reasonings behind all of his statements.

Cool, nice debating with you. Watch out for fanboys and trolls, they'll give you a headache.

 

[Michael Phelps]

Like hell hes the strongest sannin, his snakes are nothing compared to his frogs, if their used together even alone they can whoop most of his snakes.
While in SM jiraiya is well to equipped to use frog song which will pawn orochimaru

 

[SatchiZurake]

Like hell hes the strongest sannin, his snakes are nothing compared to his frogs, if their used together even alone they can whoop most of his snakes.
While in SM jiraiya is well to equipped to use frog song which will pawn orochimaru

I just finished having the frog song debate and I really don't feel like having it again.

As far as the frogs and the snakes, Gamabunta was as good as dead if Tsunade hadn't saved his ass. And considering Gamabunta is the most powerful of the Giant frog summons, the same would go for the rest of them. Manda easily took on Katsuyu and Gamabunta at the same time.

 

[BlackMomba]

This is very debatable but I on one hand can agree with your claim Oro is a f**king beast
While on the other I would say J-man he is also a beast
One thing I think we can all agree on.....ok most of us can agree on all,though Tsunade is hella strong she is the weakest sannin

 

[Michael Phelps]

I just finished having the frog song debate and I really don't feel like having it again.

As far as the frogs and the snakes, Gamabunta was as good as dead if Tsunade hadn't saved his ass. And considering Gamabunta is the most powerful of the Giant frog summons, the same would go for the rest of them. Manda easily took on Katsuyu and Gamabunta at the same time.

Yeah tsunade saved his ass by taking his sword he could have done the same thing she did in the situation, in addition the only way manda got the jump on him was them creating a smoke screen for mandaJ(not that it matters with sage mode sensing), what argument did you give he has nothing to counter frog song.

 

[BloodSeed]

jiraiya>oro

if you disagree oro has a chance to beat pain :rofl:



sneaky uchiha fanboy: im going to say oro>jman since itachi > oro heheheheehehhe!

 

[SatchiZurake]

Yeah tsunade saved his ass by taking his sword he could have done the same thing she did in the situation, in addition the only way manda got the jump on him was them creating a smoke screen for mandaJ(not that it matters with sage mode sensing), what argument did you give he has nothing to counter frog song.

Go back and watch the episode, Manda was controlling the entire fight. It went something like this.

Katsuyu uses Acid Slime, Manda dodges, constricts Katsuyu
Manda goes to strike Tsunade, Gamabunta goes to stab Manda.
Manda reacts and catches the sword in his mouth.
Katsuyu splits herself, and regathers, Gamabunta jumps back.
Manda throws sword at Bunta, Bunta dodges, sword lands in front of Katsuyu and Tsunade.
Jiraiya and Bunta use Fire Style: Toad Flame Bomb on Manda, Manda substitutes out of it and goes underground.
They FEEL him coming underground, but he fools them with his tail, and strikes from behind.
Tsunade comes out of nowhere with Bunta's sword and finishes the battle of the giant summons.

Manda easily dodged or countered every attack and easily got the jump on them.
Kishimoto stated himself, Snakes beat Frogs. It's just the natural order of things.

Also, as far I've seen there is no character in the series at any point other than Tsunade depicted to be strong enough to lift a giant sword a hundred times larger than his or her self.

As far as Frog Song, my argument was that the only way it can work is in a situation like the one with Nagato, in a setting that's basically a giant maze. The only reason it worked is because Jiraiya was able to hide from them. If Orochimaru and Jiraiya are in an open battlefield like where the three sannin fought, then Frog Song just can't work, because Orochimaru isn't going to sit there and just let him activate it. It requires too much prep time. And as far as any distractions, be real, do you think a Shadow Clone will hold Orochimaru for more than a few seconds? For every one of Jiraiya's frogs, Orochimaru has a giant snake waiting. So whether or not Frog Song is Orochimaru's achilles heel all depends on the setting of the fight.

 

[sulanis]

I wouldn't say that he is the absolute strongest, but I do know for sure that he is the coolest sannin. I like Jaraiya as well, but i find he's not as intricate as Ororchimaru. If your speaking in intelligence, Ororchimaru is way ahead of the other two.

+rep

 

[Narutoisgodly]

No don't twist words thats not what they said they were used to re- establish oro's hype take into consideration how easily itachi beat him it would be jus as easy for sasuke

Orochimaru >>> jiraiya because talent & intelligence

sasuke is smater than naruto but that doesn't make him stronger

 

[Third Sage]

Orochimaru would have to attack because he knows Jirayia's technically got infinite chakra, something what he doesn't. If he wouldn't succeed in quickly beating him, what I believe he wouldn't, he loses. That's pretty much of the story.

 

[AARB]

well, for me there is nothing to debate about because based on information gathered throughout the series it is very clear that jiraiya is the strongest sannin.He is probably the only sannin who attained sage mode and could effectively use it in battle. Orochimaru even admitted that itachi strength surpassed his own with itachi admitting he would not stand a chance against jiraiya.this is a clear testament to the difference in power jiraiya has over orochimaru.the only advantage orochimaru would have is the fact that he is probably the hardest person to kill in the show.it would be a long and drawn out fight but the outcome still puts jiraiya on top. Bear in mind, that i am not taking anything away from orochimaru. he is without a doubt an extremely powerful ninja but when a man like itachi speaks of jiraiya so highly stating that himself and kisame would face deaths door should they ever combat the legendary sannin jiraiya,going even further to say that even if they had reinforcements the results of them dying would remain the same.itachi even took precautions by casting genjutsu on a woman to lure jiraiya away from naruto.truly, jiraiya is deserving of the title "Strongest Sannin."

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

orochimaru>jiraiya>tsunade
tsunade>orochimaru>jiraiya
jiraiya>tsunade>orochimaru

 

[MorphyRulez]

Toad > Slug, Slug > Snake , Snake > Toad. It's right, but you are wrong about Orochimaru>Jiraiya, Jiraiya > Tsunade, Tsunade > Orochimaru. You can not compare them like animals. For example; Raikiri > Chidori but guess what Sasuke's Chidori rapes Kakashi's Raikiri. Maybe Kakashi has advantage in base but Sasuke is too OP for him. If they'll fight. Shinobi like Orochimaru won't let Jiraiya's Sage Mode activation. Jiraiya wont able to do that. Why people always think about that why? Because he escaped from a crepy bird and rhino? Really? Plus even in SM Jiraiya has not any powerful jutsu for killing Orochimaru. If you Remember when Naruto go into 4-tailed(or maybe 6 cant find page), Jiraiya nearly going to die. But Orochimaru toy with him at first. His endurance is insane level. I'm not counting True Form ( White Snake Form/ Incompelete White Snake Sage Mode) Paralayzing Venom etc. Jiraiya can not counter them all. Jiraiya's best chance is summoning MA & PA but again, Orochimaru wont let it. It's too much time. Orochimaru is the most powerful sannin. I rested my case U_U thx and sorry about bad grammer :ice:

 

[Genkaku57]

hmm could be the strongest, I've always felt

Sasuke=Orochimaru
Naruto=Jiraiya
sakura=Tsunade

and since Sasuke= Naruto in strength
that would mean Orochimaru=Jiraiya


and since Sasuke or naruto >>>>> Sakura
then Oro or Jiraiya >>>>> Tsunade

This^may not be entirely accurate. First of all
Naruto>Jiraiya
Sasuke<Orochimaru
Sakura=Tsunade

I believe that Jiraiya was the strongest of the Sannin

 

[gameove]

girly boy all the way