Do you believe in God?

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  • I Believe In God

    Votes: 375 67.3%
  • I Am An Agnostic

    Votes: 55 9.9%
  • I Am An Atheist

    Votes: 127 22.8%

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Dr Dark Knight

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If you are going to claim to be doctor ( an expert in other terms) please refrain from silly suggestions like a lady having se with chimp caused this. :sy:

Sorry Tsuchi ma'm that was a theory that is believed worldwide. how else could it have transmitted from the chimps to humans? I thought I needed to say that, and I wasnt trying to be funny.:)
and.. that link doesnt work..:confused:
 
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Sorry Tsuchi ma'm that was a theory that is believed worldwide. I thought I needed to clarify.
and.. that link doesnt work..:confused:

Nope. It is one of the speculations among many. You chose the one which sounded kinky and left others. :p
 

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Nope. It is one of the speculations among many. You chose the one which sounded kinky and left others. :p

the others.. well. imagine having blood donated from a chimp, or sharing a needle when both need to get high. or maybe, a chimp mom feeding Tarzan milk!:p

anyways, leave it ma'm. you are the baws here. anything you say. :)
 

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Sorry Tsuchi ma'm that was a theory that is believed worldwide. how else could it have transmitted from the chimps to humans? I thought I needed to say that, and I wasnt trying to be funny.:)
and.. that link doesnt work..:confused:

It is working for me. :shrug:

here is another-

Some researchers say that virus related to HIV is found in monkeys in Africa. Many scientists believe that the first humans got the HIV virus from monkeys by eating them as food or being scratched or bitten by them. It is possible that during preparation of the food or butchering the meat the infected blood could have entered the human body through a cut.

A Canadian flight attendant, nicknamed "patient zero" dies of AIDS as he had sexual connection with several of the first victims of AIDS. It is believed that he is responsible for introducing the virus into the general population. By 1984 there are almost 8000 confirmed cases in the US, with 3700 confirmed deaths.

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And here I quoted you an expert:

When we are talking about the origin of the AIDS Virus, your question regarding sexual contact between monkeys and humans is actually a very common one.

All evidence indicates that the monkey AIDS virus (also known as Simian Immunodeficiency Virus or SIV), and even the cat AIDS virus (also known as Feline Immunodeficiency Virus or FIV) have been in existence long before the HIV virus first infected humans. Both SIV and FIV cause diseases very similar to human AIDS, and can sometimes be fatal to monkeys and cats (but these viruses are harmless to humans). In addition, all of these viruses are transmitted in very similar ways (sexual contact, mother-to-baby, blood-to-blood contact, etc.). Evidence strongly indicates that HIV had originated from the SIV virus (based on genetic similarities between SIV and HIV). This most likely occurred by humans being directly exposed to monkey blood. There is no significant evidence that HIV was derived from the cat AIDS virus (FIV).

Realistically speaking, it would be highly unlikely that SIV could have made it's way from monkeys into people through sexual contact. The chances of a person being capable of having *** with a monkey (through intercourse, giving oral ***, etc.) is highly unlikely. If you see the size difference between humans and monkeys, and the behavior of monkeys (either in zoos or in nature), you would see quite well that the possibilities of sexual intercourse or oral *** with monkeys is realistically very unlikely. In addition, humans having *** with animals (also known as bestiality) is very uncommon.

In regard to HIV being derived from FIV, this would be quite unlikely based on all available evidence. I also find it realistically very unlikely for cats to be having *** with humans! The link between SIV and FIV is less clear, although I also find it very doubtful that cats would be having *** with monkeys! But somewhere in the evolutionary past, there had to be some sort of link between AIDS in monkeys and AIDS in cats; this could have occurred either by a direct blood-to-blood exposure (for example by fights between these animals or through predator-prey interaction), or a through a common viral "ancestor".

In summary, it is realistically extremely doubtful that HIV first entered humans through any form of sexual contact with monkeys, cats, or any other animal for that matter.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to call the Centers for Disease Control at 1.800.232.4636 (Nationwide).

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I find humans contacting it via some cut when encountering a chimp in some way much more belieivable rather than a sleezy theory.:shrug:


the others.. well. imagine having blood donated from a chimp, or sharing a needle when both need to get high. or maybe, a chimp mom feeding Tarzan milk!:p

anyways, leave it ma'm. you are the baws here. anything you say. :)

I am surprised that you ignore more plausible and logical explanations like some human getting in to contact of chimp blood while having open wound themselves rather than the ones you are claiming. :rolleyes:
 
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im a christian so yes
 

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Nope. It is one of the speculations among many. You chose the one which sounded kinky and left others. :p

It is working for me. :shrug:

here is another-



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And here I quoted you an expert:






IMO I just find humans contacting it via some cut when encountering a chimp in some way rather than a sleezy theory.:shrug:

you got me.U_U
 

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I'm an agnostic. I don't know the answers to the ever-encompassing question of what happens after you die, and i don't care to know until I die. Personally I'm more inclined to the atheist's explanation of things because there's certainly much more evidence to back it up, but until it's proven, like gravity, I stand my ground as an agnostic. Though personally I HIGHLY doubt the whole cosmic jew theory.
 

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Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...


Anyone??...​
 

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that was an example meant for toothpaste. nothing for you to get so much worked up. and i did not criticize you.


OK. I can give you proof about God. fine? how about that? eh? you must then listen patiently and carefully. AND I will give you references, that you will yourself confirm. does that sound good?

I'm not worked up. I am being unabashedly clear on my position with atheism/theism.

As for proof, go for it. I highly doubt that anything you're about to say counts as evidence.
 

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I would think, that's Dark Knight trying to be funny. >_>

Actually I was joking when i said that, but u settled the matter. I wld rep+ u if u actually needed it.
 

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aids is a cured now anyway as long as it is caught in time so that is an invalad point



Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world... sadly this will never happen
 
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Who knows? I'd like to, so I do, but I'm not sure - and no one can be.
 

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there is no god anyway!
u should believe in your self
 

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I believe in God simply for a fear of burning in Hell.
 

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I dont wana interrupt but actually HIV and its symptoms were first recorded in history in about 1980 . . . . it is supposed to be evolved from a strain of SIV endemic in chimps . . . it is unlikely that man created it (well people say they saw UFO . . . ) . . . also HIV can spread not only from *** but any form of body fluid contact like blood transfusion, common needle etc.... even children can be born HIV positive. So personally i dont think God had a hand in it. . But i can agree more or less with the others: religion is for unity, but humans dont unite because of the very religious difference. Its sad.

All viruses need enzymes from RNA so it can mutate and infect more animal groups and possibly in time humans. Viruses do not evolve since they require a external source of information to mutate into. It is not just mutating and then it can infect humans. It needs the information first which would mean a human would need to come in contact with the virus so the virus can get the information needed to mutate.
 
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All viruses need enzymes from RNA that are from animals to humans so it can mutate and infect more animal groups and possibly in time humans. Viruses do not evolve since they require a external source of information to mutate into. It is not just mutating and then it can infect humans. It needs the information first which would mean a human would need to come in contact with the virus so the virus can get the information needed to mutate.

In short- if there is a creator he made both- the humans and the AIDS virus, along with some othher million bacterias, viruses, bugs, animals and so on.U_U
 

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No, unfortunately, that's true, man:) It's about 4.6 billion years.

@S. Train- Amenxd

Ha Ha, Have Ever Even Researched The Facts?? No?? Didn't Think So, So, You Can Believe A Wiki As Absolute Truth, I Can't Change Your Mind About That, And, I'll Believe Something More Factual, :)
 
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