Do you believe in God?

[Scooby Doo]

Yet scientist have theories that aren't fact and people accept that it's true and say God's existence is false, yet people cannot prove that God doesn't exist. A little hypocritical in my opinion

Same with religions...They expect me to believe just because they say this and if I dont I'm a bed person and burn in hell. So at least scientists dont say that religious people will suffer for their sins...etc. Besides modern science is max. 300 years old if we count it from Newton, and it achieved and proved much more than religions in 3000 yrs...

 

[HadouKage]

Same with religions...They expect me to believe just because they say this and if I dont I'm a bed person and burn in hell. So at least scientists dont say that religious people will suffer for their sins...etc. Besides modern science is max. 300 years old if we count it from Newton, and it achieved and proved much more than religions in 3000 yrs...

Sounds like this is appealing from emotion. It's the truth, if you sin... well you know, it's just like jail, you do wrong you go to jail. You get free will it's up to you whether you do good or evil. Just look at people who think they don't have to follow the law, where do they end up?

And no one has yet to answer my question

 

[Chakra Wizard]

Same with religions...They expect me to believe just because they say this and if I dont I'm a bed person and burn in hell. So at least scientists dont say that religious people will suffer for their sins...etc. Besides modern science is max. 300 years old if we count it from Newton, and it achieved and proved much more than religions in 3000 yrs...

It hasn't "proved" anything. Space-time is still just a theory. Black holes are just a theory. The Big Bang is still just a theory. And religion is just a theory. Nobody can prove that any of them are fact or that they're false, therefore, it's up to every individual person to decide what to believe in.

 

[HadouKage]

It hasn't "proved" anything. Space-time is still just a theory. Black holes are just a theory. The Big Bang is still just a theory. And religion is just a theory. Nobody can prove that any of them are fact or that they're false, therefore, it's up to every individual person to decide what to believe in.

How's religion a theory? I'm interested in your thought about it

 

[AP2k]

It hasn't "proved" anything. Space-time is still just a theory. Black holes are just a theory. The Big Bang is still just a theory. And religion is just a theory. Nobody can prove that any of them are fact or that they're false, therefore, it's up to every individual person to decide what to believe in.

No, religion is not a "theory". A theory is something that has significant scientific backing and is generally regarded highly by the scientific community. Religion isn't remotely close to a theory.

 

[EliteKakashi]

And this is exactly where religious discussions get you..

667 posts and not a single person has changed their opinion, and everyone keeps spouting the same bullshit over and over and over, probably to the point where you could all just save yourselves some time and just copy and paste previous posts.

 

[OneOfTheNine]

I belive religion to be one of the greatest flaws of mankind.

 

[Chakra Wizard]

How's religion a theory? I'm interested in your thought about it

No, religion is not a "theory". A theory is something that has significant scientific backing and is generally regarded highly by the scientific community. Religion isn't remotely close to a theory.

A theory in its simplest definition is a proposed idea that gives an explanation for a certain phenomena. Therefore, all religions are theories as to how the universe came into existence, as well as theories as to what happens after death. It just fills in that blank.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Sounds like this is appealing from emotion. It's the truth, if you sin... well you know, it's just like jail, you do wrong you go to jail. You get free will it's up to you whether you do good or evil. Just look at people who think they don't have to follow the law, where do they end up?

And no one has yet to answer my question

But spending a few years in jail is better than eternal torture and people created the state/government/and rules so it was their choice but I dont reall have a choice when it comes to god: I believe him and live or if not I'll suffer (or just simply die). Besides then god's sense of justice and his morals are not better than humans'...And one more thing: you say that we cannot prove that god doesnt exist but it doesnt work lke this. You state something you have to prove it. For example if i say that werevolves exist you cannot prove that they dont. People actually got executed in the past for they were believed to be werevolves. But just because you cannot prove that werevolves dont exist I cannot say that:"So they must exist because you just cant disprove it"

It hasn't "proved" anything. Space-time is still just a theory. Black holes are just a theory. The Big Bang is still just a theory. And religion is just a theory. Nobody can prove that any of them are fact or that they're false, therefore, it's up to every individual person to decide what to believe in.

So the telescopes and the instruments all fail and we dont live in space time...But the equations and leading theories can describe how things work quite well so thats why we can chat now...And the cosmic radiation from the big bang was measured and detected.

 

[AP2k]

A theory in its simplest definition is a proposed idea that gives an explanation for a certain phenomena. Therefore, all religions are theories as to how the universe came into existence, as well as theories as to what happens after death. It just fills in that blank.

No, it's not. A theory is a hypothesis that can and has been physically tested numerous times to the point where it is commonly regarded as true, but is still left open to debate. You can't just come up with something and call it a theory.

 

[Chakra Wizard]

No, it's not. A theory is a hypothesis that can and has been physically tested numerous times to the point where it is commonly regarded as true, but is still left open to debate. You can't just come up with something and call it a theory.

No, that's a "scientific" theory. And in regards to testability, nothing can truly be certainly proven, so what difference does testing make? It only shows what could possibly be true. In contrast, anyone would be a fool to say that EVERY single proposition can be tested at all, so what are all these other "theories" going to be called? No one can prove black holes exist, at least not in one lifetime, so I guess it's not a theory. No one can prove that stars become black dwarfs at the end of their "lives", so that's not a theory. And no one can prove that the universe ends at some point, so where are all these "theoretical" models coming from? Just like nobody can prove that one of all these religious deities exists, but we all choose what we want to believe.

 

[TheLostEden]

For me religion is like the placebo effect.

 

[AngryRock]

No, religion is not a "theory". A theory is something that has significant scientific backing and is generally regarded highly by the scientific community. Religion isn't remotely close to a theory.

A theory does not have to have significant scientific backing or higly regarded by some scientists.

Theory - A supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained

 

[AP2k]

No, that's a "scientific" theory. And in regards to testability, nothing can truly be certainly proven, so what difference does testing make? It only shows what could possibly be true. In contrast, anyone would be a fool to say that EVERY single proposition can be tested at all, so what are all these other "theories" going to be called? No one can prove black holes exist, at least not in one lifetime, so I guess it's not a theory. No one can prove that stars become black dwarfs at the end of their "lives", so that's not a theory. And no one can prove that the universe ends at some point, so where are all these "theoretical" models coming from? Just like nobody can prove that one of all these religious deities exists, but we all choose what we want to believe.

No, we have observed stars going supernova and black holes where super novas have been. These are all observable. One doesnt need to observe a star from birth to supernova to make that hypothesis. Black holes can theoreticallly be observed, but i am not a scientist and could never explain the reason begind any of it, nor can most people.

 

[AP2k]

A theory does not have to have significant scientific backing or higly regarded by some scientists.

Theory - A supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained

Theory - *a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena.

All you had to do was click the first link in that google search, you were to lazy to do that.

 

[Chakra Wizard]

No, we have observed stars going supernova and black holes where super novas have been. These are all observable. One doesnt need to observe a star from birth to supernova to make that hypothesis. Black holes can theoreticallly be observed, but i am not a scientist and could never explain the reason begind any of it, nor can most people.

Okay, take that argument out of it and my statement still stands. Not all theories are "scientific" theories.

 

[Devils advocate]

I was gonna post a George Carlin video... not my best idea. I used to be Christian but I got skeptical.
How are you going to tell super powers are impossible , but some man that we can't see, can't be proven exist? Religion is the worst thing to ever happen to mankind. Honestly if we are the best he can do is use. He REALLY ****ed up

 

[HadouKage]

But spending a few years in jail is better than eternal torture and people created the state/government/and rules so it was their choice but I dont reall have a choice when it comes to god: I believe him and live or if not I'll suffer (or just simply die). Besides then god's sense of justice and his morals are not better than humans'...And one more thing: you say that we cannot prove that god doesnt exist but it doesnt work lke this. You state something you have to prove it. For example if i say that werevolves exist you cannot prove that they dont. People actually got executed in the past for they were believed to be werevolves. But just because you cannot prove that werevolves dont exist I cannot say that:"So they must exist because you just cant disprove it"

I never stated that God could not exist, it's just that it's useless explaining it because I'll just be wasting my breath. What about the people that do demented crimes and end up in a straight jacket, in a small room, for life? That isn't torture? I'm just saying just like we have consequences for our will so does God. The government rule over us no? If that's not the case then I'm sure people would love the whole new law that Obama just put in about being a convicted of being a terrorist. How isn't a divine being's judgement not better than any human?

 

[HadouKage]

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You cant prove a flying spagetti monster doesnt exist. You can't prove i dont have super powers. You cant prove that any of that doesnt exist. That doesnt mean it does.

Ok, so explain to me, can something come from nothing? That's basically what scientist say

 

[Chakra Wizard]

I was gonna post a George Carlin video... not my best idea. I used to be Christian but I got skeptical.
How are you going to tell super powers are impossible , but some man that we can't see, can't be proven exist? Religion is the worst thing to ever happen to mankind. Honestly if we are the best he can do is use. He REALLY ****ed up

Of course you can't PROVE it, that's where the concept of faith comes in. Human beings are weapons of mass destruction in it of themselves. What'll stop them from trying to take over heaven the day they have proof that it exists? Besides, human beings are the reason the world is on the brink of Hell, not God. Even if I didn't believe in him, I would still say that.