Who is smarter? Sasuke or Shikamaru?

Uchiha Siame

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Its a hard one at best..long term and leadership wise shika is best but solo, realtime and zero prefight intel/meetings planning Sasuke sama beats Shikamaru kun by far..re reed/watch naruto for proof cos given same everithing(abilities training and expirience) Sasuke wins not so long after, but in terms of pre fight intel it goes on for long as Sasuke counters shikamaru's long planned strat by analyzing and formulating and or executing in realtime while shika's "what's he doin...won't he let up...need a time out...damnit is this the genius of the uchiha clan..wtf he knows our weakness?" and is Suusano/Sasuke-sama foder
u mad shika fans?
 

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Shikamaru-kun is longterm take time thinker while Sasuke-sama like Itachi-Senpai is a realtime strategic annalist who take time to annalise their opponent and their weakness then fomulate then execute or do both in part all in realtime
 

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Meaning shika can spend as many days as he wants strategising , but once Sasuke steps on the scene he will neutralise and nullify his strategy and show why he is called Lord Sasuke, same goes for Shikaku vs Itachi
"even the greatest of geniuses is mediocre when compared to an Uchiha"..learn frm that cos Sasuke used Orochimaru who is way better than Shikamaru in most fieldsof intelect. Yes shika plans better but its worthless when your opponent can see through it and yo weakness then counter..all in real time while you need time to think it through
 

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Shika...........Im not saying Sasuke's dumb but he couldn't figure out itachi's plan.
he's now acting a bit mature in the new manga that is!
First off Itachi is really smart and Sasuke told him to "stop bullshitting" him when he said "i killed them to test my skill" but afterwards he put him in shock by making him relive the moment(s) of the massacre then told him the big brother he loved was just a fascade..any one could be swayed by the circumstances cos till i saw those flash backs and itachi's speech on the mangekyou and madara i really wonderd why he killed his clan and my doubts of his 'evil intent' were elevetated at the time i saw how he used to be with sasuke..to me him being good made more sense and was accepted quicker than his 'villain' image
 

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Shikamura by every definition of the word is smarter, if the both played shogi he would win, if they both played chess he would win, if the both played checkers he would win, he is a strategic machine.

He would solve every riddle first.

In a battle, where defeating the opponent means to find a weakness that can only be found by strategic assessment and observation of the situation he would win first.

Intelligence of his level is known around NU, he is from a clan famous for intelligence.

As for who would win in a fight, Sasuke probably dominates, that is because of Sasukes raw power.


Give both Sasuke and Shika two days prep time and intel, Sasuke would be a fool to fight him

All of the battles that you mentioned are based upon Sasukes KG, his eyes see things that most can't, intelligence is how he uses that, which yes he has shown, but no it is nowhere near Shikas level.
Book smarts. Far different from battle smarts and overall intelligence. In a game of shogi, Shikamaru would only win because he's been playing it for his entire life. In just about every other category, Sasuke utterly shits on him. I notice you've given literally nothing to back up your claims when I posted back up, nor did you post support for what you claimed actually happened(because it didn't).

Two days prep? What could Shikamaru POSSIBLY do in that time that prevents Sasuke from utterly blitzing him? He couldn't even react to a fodder lightning blast from Kakuzu that Kakashi had to intercept to save him, his traps or plans aren't doing shit, he's nowhere near smart enough anyway.

I'd like anyone who blindly reads the manga and severely overestimates Shika's strength to re-read Shika vs Temari. Because Temari crapped on his intelligence in every way, while Asuma says he's a good leader and Kurenai agrees he's smart for a genin. He's fodder to the upper tiers of the ninja world, people who think he's actually intelligence in terms of the big time characters like Minato, Kakashi, Kabuto, Jiraiya, Itachi, Naruto, Sasuke, Tobi, Orochimaru, seriously need to learn to comprehend manga.
Sasuke is the better fighter and Shikamaru is the better tactician.You people forget who told sasuke about izanagi?Karin is the one who saved sasuke in that fight.A mere reverse genjutsu on a person who barely can handle the true power of a sharnigan?Danzo can be outsmarted by shikamaru...but that doesn't mean shikamaru has the strength to win?Your comparing combat strength vs intelligence.

Sasuke has Combat strength++++,Intelligence ++
Shikamaru has Combat strength +,Intelligence ++++

See the difference when you compare fighting towards Based Intelligence?A tactician is mainly a person that sits back and devises a plan more then a person who is a warrior that fights using that plan the tactician made.If that plan is successful the tactician gets his praise for being intelligent and the warrior gets his praise for being bad ass.

You rarely see a tactician with high combat strength because that is not their area of expertise.

Intelligence:

Shikamaru>Sasuke

Combat>
Sasuke>Shikamaru

Shikamaru can come up with a tactic to beat sasuke but that doesn't mean he himself can do it...that isn't shikamaru's fault that he didn't have that last bit of chakra to beat temari.He was born with low chakra so you can exclude that from your argument.
Not gonna lai, I lold like usual.

Shikamaru's too stupid, please if you will point out any strategy that Shika has pulled off that I simply can't top with a fodder intelligence feat. You can't, because Shika has shit intelligence compared to most characters who actually show it regularly.
 

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lol shikamaru took down hidan he tricked him during when oro tried to destory the leaf shikamaru used fake dog prints to trick the sound ninjas they were joinin their alot of them what are saying shikamaru is stupid and shikamaru's IQ is over 100 or at least one hurdred he became a chunin before all his classmates in the chuinin exams shikamaru is smart theres proof to back my statements
 

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Shikamaru's intellgence>>>>>> Sasuke's
Sasuke was stupid to charge into the five kage summit without devising a strategy on how to deal with them. Did he expect the kages would just let him fight Danzo without interfering when he commited lot's of crimes? Did he expect the Raikage to just leave him be when he thought that Sasuke Killed his brother? That's just plain DUMB!
 

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Shikamaru's intellgence>>>>>> Sasuke's
Sasuke was stupid to charge into the five kage summit without devising a strategy on how to deal with them. Did he expect the kages would just let him fight Danzo without interfering when he commited lot's of crimes? Did he expect the Raikage to just leave him be when he thought that Sasuke Killed his brother? That's just plain DUMB!
Shikamaru was stupid enough to try and use kage mane on one of the strongest Naruto characters and a bijuu, and openly blindly go to like 7 chunin and sacrifice himself to 'save his team' when he was too weak to do that. I like how you didn't list one positive think Shikamaru pulled off because there isn't anything impressive.
 

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Shikamaru was stupid enough to try and use kage mane on one of the strongest Naruto characters and a bijuu, and openly blindly go to like 7 chunin and sacrifice himself to 'save his team' when he was too weak to do that. I like how you didn't list one positive think Shikamaru pulled off because there isn't anything impressive.
When was that bijuu and one of the strongest characters thing, and what do u mean by 7 chuunin? And I didn't list a positive "thing" Shikamaru did because I thought it was obvious enough that there was no need to do so:shrug:
Does taking down an immortal count? Does helping to seal a 4 tailed kyuubi count?
 
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