Tobi possibly has the MS/EMS?

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First of all, I'd like to start off by saying that it's been a while since I've made a serious thread. Lately I've been trolling several people by repetitively mentioning Itachi :izuna: but it got boring, so, I decided to make this thread.

There are a few reasons as to why I think Tobi possibly has the Mangekyo Sharingan, and maybe even the EMS.

Let's take a look at this page shall we?

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This image is basically saying that when you get the EMS you gain the power to control the Kyuubi. This is confirmed when Madara used it against the Kyuubi:

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Now what I personally believe is that you can control the Kyuubi when you get the MS/EMS, BUT you do not have to have the MS/EMS active when you do so. This is indeed possible, and was demonstrated here by Itachi, you can CLEARLY see his 3T active, not his MS. So basically, perhaps you can use MS techniques without having your MS active.

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Here, we CLEARLY see Tobi controlling the Kyuubi with his 3T:

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As you can see he's controlling it without the MS/EMS active, something I mentioned earlier in the thread.

Now, there's 2 possible outcomes;

1.) Itachi was lying about having to control the Kyuubi with the MS/EMS. This is less likely to be true since Sasuke read it himself that you DO need the MS/EMS whilst visiting the Naka Shrine.

2.) Tobi somehow has the MS/EMS but has not shown it being used.

Now, one thing we've blatantly been ignoring is the fact that Tobi can teleport:

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It has been said TIME and TIME again that when one awakens the MS they all get unique powers. Is it not obvious that Tobi has gotten this as his power? It makes sense considering that he's ONLY used this technique with ONE Sharingan, so we can assume that the Sharingan he uses to teleport is the one with the MS ability. Also, when he warps he warps DIRECTLY in his eye. Hasn't Kishi made it blatantly obvious that this ability must stem from his Sharingan?


So basically, what I believe is that Tobi has the MS/EMS but has never activated it because he doesn't have to.

Thoughts?
 
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Air

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What happened to only posting about itachi c:?
 

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No. The most logic thing showed so far in the manga is that Tobi is the elder son. He have 3 tomoe, not MS

What happened to only posting about itachi c:?
Hahah, lmao
 

realobito1

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Dont care if he does or does not.
 

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I agree with this theory, i honestly believe he has one of Madara's Sharingan as one of his eyes but he eventually used it on Izanagi

Nice thread man, i was wondering when you would make one

+Rep for it
 

Naruto N. Uzumaki

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discussed ton's of time's by other's he has ms not sure ems
 

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Nah I really don't think so. It's possible he once awakened MS/EMS but he definetly does not have it now.
 

Hattake Ryuzaki

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i agree hes prolly reserving it for something or cant use ems currently :shrug:
 

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Good theory +rep

Never noticed the Itachi one!
 

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Now your showing your -Logic- ;), good theory
 

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this was already discussed, and many people said he has ms, but maybe he has ems since he uses the teleportation so many times and he didn't go blind yet or shown any signs of getting blind, but how would he get ems? that's what's confusing me.
 
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