[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 594 Discussion and 595 Predictions

[girya]

About this chapter
1. Gedo mazo is 10 tails container is conformed
2. We saw what the tobis fan can do
3. There is something in tobi's right hand

Nothing more was revealed new in this chapter. The identity of tobi is still in darkness there is no new info about it. He can be anybody. I still think there is possibility that tobi can even be danzo.

I know people will say he is dead in that fight however, you never know. he can fake his death and the tobi watching from distance might just be some kind of advanced clone jutsu. We have seen naruto fake the white dog in part 1. And in the entire danzo fight, all that he used was izanagi and no other extraordinary cap jutsu... why? and then tobi takes danzos body comfortably with his space-time.

Oro in the last episode says I and tobi used sasuke....!
Where did this happen?
I point to talk between itachi and danzo; why is danzo so concerned about saving sasukes life. thats so unlike danzo. This is where the manipulation of sasuke starts in the true sense and then oro taking advantage of that hatred. Plus, when nagato happened to summon gedo the first time; danzo happens to be right there with hanzo and escapes unscathed(as a proposer of this theory i will say space-time jutsu or pre-knowledge of things).

Now look at danzo's objective at kage summit. He supposedly is using shishui's eyes to save the ninja world from chaos. we go back and look at danzos motives at nagato's episode. He is there to sabotage a force of then akatsuki( yahiko) that is trying to bring peace among nations. Either this is some flawed plot or small picture of larger scheme.

Bringing kagami uchiha or unknown somebody as tobi will be convenient for kishi becoz we hardly know abt these characters and their abilities. I think it is simply too late to bring some character that we haven't seen even 2-3 pages of manga come and become the most wanted of naruto verse(that will be story killer to me). The only reason i read this manga is to know who tobi is and how well can kishi connect the dots..

 

[madali]

What did Kakashi mean by:

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"I'd like to do something before its revived if possible".

was he referring to a new jutsu, I hope so because it's about time he got a new upgrade. I wish Kakashi could somehow obtain Susanoo, that would so make my day.

im wondering too what kakashi has up his sleeve he talked like he can do sumthin. kakashi usually dosent just talk out of his ass

 

[10th hokage]

i wish there would be more fighting between the jubi and naruto. I have a feeling the guy will die.

 

[Omningan]

Obito is dead deal with it. Tobi is the older son of rikudou. Minato knew when he fought tobi that no one could have done what he did. Minatos best guess was madara. But he was wrong as we now know. Which means that tobi predates madara. He refers to the rinnengan as his. Does that sound like obito or danzou or kagami? No. Its an original character who defies death time after time. And he knows the most intimate secrets of everyone and everything. He talked about the battle of senju and uchiha beginning with the rikudous children. How would he know that story unless he were there? He thinks its funny that hashirama and madara and now sasuke and naruto are just playong out the roles that he and his brother started at the beginning. He knows it all and is using everyone like toilet paper. Kabuto, nagato, akatsuki, sasuke, etc. He is the oldest person alive and he wants what ue thinks was his birthright. Control, power, domination. The younger brother thought love was the greatest power. The older brother thought power. What better way to get back at daddy rikudou than to bring back the beast he died protecting the world from and robbing everyone of love and freedom? Make no mistake tobi is the sages first born son.

 

[~Dream~]

Re: Tobi is smart.

Yes, he is smart. Kabuto wasn't scared of him, he just didn't want to get injured or anything.

 

[synkross]

As far as speculation goes, what you say is possible but highly unlikely.

It would be hard to explain how a low level ninja like Obito, who barely even managed to unlock one tomoe before his supposed death, is able to have enough visual prowess to control the Kyuubi, bypass Konoha's barrier undetected, have powerful teleporting abilities, and fight on par with Minato all after three years. We have yet to see any ninja achieve such a high level of power and skill in that amount of time.

Also, we know Tobi has wrinkles on his face, implying that he is a older aged man. If he is indeed Obito then he would still look young, seeing as his age is close to Kakashi's.

understadable but at the bolded part...i was thinking that it could be a misguiding hint to lead us astray from guessing the right identity...just cuz we saw some part of his face ...it could be due to surgery or anything ,not likely because he's old....thats just what i think :shrug:

 

[akimofnevis]

go to my tobi versus tobi thread and cast your vote for who you think tobi really is

 

[yondaime4]

Obito is dead deal with it. Tobi is the older son of rikudou. Minato knew when he fought tobi that no one could have done what he did. Minatos best guess was madara. But he was wrong as we now know. Which means that tobi predates madara. He refers to the rinnengan as his. Does that sound like obito or danzou or kagami? No. Its an original character who defies death time after time. And he knows the most intimate secrets of everyone and everything. He talked about the battle of senju and uchiha beginning with the rikudous children. How would he know that story unless he were there? He thinks its funny that hashirama and madara and now sasuke and naruto are just playong out the roles that he and his brother started at the beginning. He knows it all and is using everyone like toilet paper. Kabuto, nagato, akatsuki, sasuke, etc. He is the oldest person alive and he wants what ue thinks was his birthright. Control, power, domination. The younger brother thought love was the greatest power. The older brother thought power. What better way to get back at daddy rikudou than to bring back the beast he died protecting the world from and robbing everyone of love and freedom? Make no mistake tobi is the sages first born son.

Mind Blown:sy:

 

[Valerie Uzumaki]

Loved this Chapter!! Finally got to see more Naruto again;D Hopefully next week more fighting between Naruto and Tobi And some more hints about who the f*** is Tobi!

 

[Plox2str0]

Tobi is obito...Reason one, the obvious name similarity, same eye obito gave to kakashi tobi Is missing, kakashi got mangekyo sharingan because his eye is still linked to tobi..same reason why he was able to WARP pains rocket just like how tobi eye specializes in time and space. So even though kakashi has his eye it still kept its original traits. Also now we see in the most recent chapter tobi makes a comment about kakashi living his life full of regret, a remark that would insist that tobi and kakashi once knew each other VERY WELL. The proof is in the pudding minimotto purposely put guy and kakashi there with naruto to fight obito because they're the two that have history with him.....OBITO- TOBI.....they've been leaving signs for forever!

Ps Orichimaru ties sone way into the grand scheme....they never elaborated on his time with the akatsuki and exactly how he "betrayed" them. But think about it tobi always says he is incomplete and we see when he fights konen and he is injured how his body looks like clay...and now all of a sudden Orichimaru is revived and back into the scheme

 

[YouAreAllMyMFSlaves]

Awesome With A Capitol "A"

 

[YouAreAllMyMFSlaves]

& Tobi Is Definitely Obito Take A Look At Pg.8

 

[Ndias17]

Obito is dead deal with it. Tobi is the older son of rikudou. Minato knew when he fought tobi that no one could have done what he did. Minatos best guess was madara. But he was wrong as we now know. Which means that tobi predates madara. He refers to the rinnengan as his. Does that sound like obito or danzou or kagami? No. Its an original character who defies death time after time. And he knows the most intimate secrets of everyone and everything. He talked about the battle of senju and uchiha beginning with the rikudous children. How would he know that story unless he were there? He thinks its funny that hashirama and madara and now sasuke and naruto are just playong out the roles that he and his brother started at the beginning. He knows it all and is using everyone like toilet paper. Kabuto, nagato, akatsuki, sasuke, etc. He is the oldest person alive and he wants what ue thinks was his birthright. Control, power, domination. The younger brother thought love was the greatest power. The older brother thought power. What better way to get back at daddy rikudou than to bring back the beast he died protecting the world from and robbing everyone of love and freedom? Make no mistake tobi is the sages first born son.

makes sense except for two points

just because minato thought he was fighting madara doesnt meant that tobi is older, theres still a possiblity that it could b izuna whc=ich would make sense because izuna would have to b pretty old if he were still alive.

if the rinnegan is his power why couldnt he gain it through training like madara, y did he have to steal it, plus if it is the older son of rikudou then y isnt his sharingan a EMS, why do we see it as a normal sharingan.

just a side note, if the rinnegan belongs to the older brother why would he give it to nagato, a decendant of the uzumaki clan who are decendants for the younger brother. so wouldnt it make more sense to give "his" eyes to one of his decendants, not his enemies

 

[rfsacuan]

Do you remember the fan like thing behind madara's back when he was fighting versus the first hokage? I believe its that thing. Also, my guess is, that fan thing deflects all jutsu's, but thats just my opinion.
Edit : My bad, totally confused the hands you were talking about, but i still dont think its the rod thing to control things by chakra.

The fan is the 5th weapon of Rikuodo Sennin. Only 4 was being used by Kinkaku and Ginkaku. I guess this makes sense right.

 

[nreningen]

Just My Prediction But it's sure that not a freak

all members discuss about who is tobi
no one know the answer yet but
there is some guys who think themselves like master and
they predict about izanami but wrong
they are still under the troll of kishimoto just like kids
and now say about tobi
tobi is obito ,tobi is madara's son something like that...
but some talk tobi is madara that is real answer
but there is no distinct proof.
still a mystery
answer is simple
do u wanna know why ?:ice:
just quote my message ,anything u like then i will prove it

 

[Ryu sannin]

Re: Just My Prediction But it's sure that not a freak

I agree with you on some part but they are just sharing their opinions. But you are right about some people thinking they damn sure know who Tobi is...

 

[nreningen]

Re: Just My Prediction But it's sure that not a freak

I agree with you on some part but they are just sharing their opinions. But you are right about some people thinking they damn sure know who Tobi is...

ohhh...u know too?
:shrug:

 

[nreningen]

Re: Just My Prediction But it's sure that not a freak

that is enough ,close the thread sensei

 

[Y3llovv fla5h]

So I was looking back becuase of all the Obito fans out there......and one thing kinda caught my attention!
When obito "died" Kakashi and he were around lets say 16-17 yrs, when "Tobi" fights minato they show a panel of Kakashi and guy walking together and they seem a bit older!

Now if ppl are saying that he is in fact Tobi=Obito than he would be around the right height considering Kakashi and Guy grew as well.....
And here is something interesting, didn't obitos right side get crushed??? And isn't Tobis sharingan and eye hole on his mask on the right side?

I can see why ppl would assume after seeing these things and lets just say for "what ifs" that somehow he didn't die under that boulder and that Madara found him and taught him how to use his sharingan properly, what would be his purpose for turning on the Leaf and why would he want to kill ppl regardless of the benefits or outcomes?!

I'm not saying he is or isn't Obito, these are just some things I've noticed and wanted to share since I'm bored and on the toilet Hahaha!

 

[Y3llovv fla5h]

Obito is dead deal with it. Tobi is the older son of rikudou. Minato knew when he fought tobi that no one could have done what he did. Minatos best guess was madara. But he was wrong as we now know. Which means that tobi predates madara. He refers to the rinnengan as his. Does that sound like obito or danzou or kagami? No. Its an original character who defies death time after time. And he knows the most intimate secrets of everyone and everything. He talked about the battle of senju and uchiha beginning with the rikudous children. How would he know that story unless he were there? He thinks its funny that hashirama and madara and now sasuke and naruto are just playong out the roles that he and his brother started at the beginning. He knows it all and is using everyone like toilet paper. Kabuto, nagato, akatsuki, sasuke, etc. He is the oldest person alive and he wants what ue thinks was his birthright. Control, power, domination. The younger brother thought love was the greatest power. The older brother thought power. What better way to get back at daddy rikudou than to bring back the beast he died protecting the world from and robbing everyone of love and freedom? Make no mistake tobi is the sages first born son.

I like your thoughts on this!!! I mentioned this a little earlier in this thread that I thought he was the elder son as well, and from what you put here that actually makes some sense!
Well thought out and put together! +rep