So... Tobi does have Mangekyou Sharingan?

[AP2k]

Rather slow, aren't we? His space-time powers are almost certainly Mangekyou Sharingan based. It is only through the power gained from awakening the Mangekyou Sharingan that the Uchiha's ocular powers can become strong enough to subjugate the Kyuubi.

All things considered, it's a pretty safe bet that he's using a Mangekyou Sharingan. And considering how long he's been using this technique, and that eye alone to see with those masks on, it's probable that it's an Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan.

Sigh, you fail. You have ZERO evidence that he has MS, you are the slow one. You literally just quoted a picture entirely disproving your theory and still find a way to try and be right. The evidence is right in front of you.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Rather slow, aren't we? His space-time powers are almost certainly Mangekyou Sharingan based. It is only through the power gained from awakening the Mangekyou Sharingan that the Uchiha's ocular powers can become strong enough to subjugate the Kyuubi.

All things considered, it's a pretty safe bet that he's using a Mangekyou Sharingan. And considering how long he's been using this technique, and that eye alone to see with those masks on, it's probable that it's an Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan.

d-did you really not see the page whee he did do it? you must be trolling or just stupid.

plus, its more likely he does it without MS

 

[OnPoint]

Sigh, you fail. You have ZERO evidence that he has MS, you are the slow one. You literally just quoted a picture entirely disproving your theory and still find a way to try and be right. The evidence is right in front of you.

This is also a response to Rikerslade, Narutobase is slowing up for me.

Tobi took control of the Kyuubi, a Mangekyo Sharingan ability, and plans to use Mugen Tsukuyomi, a Mangekyo Sharingan jutsu. Want more proof?

"Sharingan's true power, my power, Uchiha Madara's power!!" (EMS)

We've seen him spam his sharingan eye without a problem. 3 Tomoe Sharingans do not shit out ninjutsu, Mangekyou Sharingans do that. What you fail to realise is that the Mangekyou Sharingan does not have to be shown when taking control of Kurama; Madara didn't show his when taking control of the Fox before his battle with Hashirama. Perhaps he doesn't have a Mangekyou Sharingan either?

Must try harder.

 

[SilverSlick]

This is also a response to Rikerslade, Narutobase is slowing up for me.

Tobi took control of the Kyuubi, a Mangekyo Sharingan ability, and plans to use Mugen Tsukuyomi, a Mangekyo Sharingan jutsu. Want more proof?

"Sharingan's true power, my power, Uchiha Madara's power!!" (EMS)

We've seen him spam his sharingan eye without a problem. 3 Tomoe Sharingans do not shit out ninjutsu, Mangekyou Sharingans do that. What you fail to realise is that the Mangekyou Sharingan does not have to be shown when taking control of Kurama; Madara didn't show his when taking control of the Fox before his battle with Hashirama. Perhaps he doesn't have a Mangekyou Sharingan either?

Must try harder.

I don't really see what you're getting at. The guy even gave you scans. Tobi was controlling Kurama with a 3 tomoe.

 

[OnPoint]

I don't really see what you're getting at. The guy even gave you scans. Tobi was controlling Kurama with a 3 tomoe.

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That is just a fail argument. Are you tellling me Madara does not possess a MS? He's using a 3 tomoe here. It's actually blatently obvious Tobi possesses a superior dojutsu to the 3 tomoe Sharingan. A MS is needed to control the Kyuubi, though it never stated it had to be actually activated.

 

[AP2k]

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That is just a fail argument. Are you tellling me Madara does not possess a MS? He's using a 3 tomoe here. It's actually blatently obvious Tobi possesses a superior dojutsu to the 3 tomoe Sharingan. A MS is needed to control the Kyuubi, though it never stated it had to be actually activated.

So you need MS....but you dont need to USE it? Please tell me where youre getting these "facts" from.

 

[SilverSlick]

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That is just a fail argument. Are you tellling me Madara does not possess a MS? He's using a 3 tomoe here. It's actually blatently obvious Tobi possesses a superior dojutsu to the 3 tomoe Sharingan. A MS is needed to control the Kyuubi, though it never stated it had to be actually activated.

Nice logic you got there.

 

[OnPoint]

So you need MS....but you dont need to USE it? Please tell me where youre getting these "facts" from.

Are you blind or slow? Is Madara not using his 3 tomoe? By your logic, he doesn't have a MS either. The manga has stated that one needs the power of the MS in order to control a Bijuu in such a way. It never claimed it had to be activated, and my page with Madara proves that.

 

[AP2k]

Are you blind or slow? Is Madara not using his 3 tomoe? By your logic, he doesn't have a MS either. The manga has stated that one needs the power of the MS in order to control a Bijuu in such a way. It never claimed it had to be activated, and my page with Madara proves that.

Holy shit you're dense. We know madara MS because weve seen it. You cannot, definitely say, that tobi has MS, because we havent scene it. Your picture of madara proves nothing. In fact, if it proves anything, it proves that you do not need to use MS to control the fox. If you can use MS powers without activating it, why would anyone ever try and turn it on?

 

[OnPoint]

Holy shit you're dense. We know madara MS because weve seen it. You cannot, definitely say, that tobi has MS, because we havent scene it. Your picture of madara proves nothing. In fact, if it proves anything, it proves that you do not need to use MS to control the fox. If you can use MS powers without activating it, why would anyone ever try and turn it on?

Not only has he subjugated the Kyuubi in the same manner as Madara — a feat reserved for those who have awakened the power of the Mangekyou Sharingan — his S/T Ninjutsu clearly originates from his right Sharingan, and only the Mangekyou Sharingan has been shown to cast techniques of that nature thus far. This ability is not in the same class as ninjutsu, so I find it pointless to try and suggest i'm pointing towards the Mangekyou Sharingan not needing to be activated to in order to use said techniques also.

 

[Uziha Uchimaki]

Are you blind or slow? Is Madara not using his 3 tomoe? By your logic, he doesn't have a MS either. The manga has stated that one needs the power of the MS in order to control a Bijuu in such a way. It never claimed it had to be activated, and my page with Madara proves that.

I completely agree with just about everything uve said. Also if you pay attention to the page I posted, you'll see that his 3 tomoe collapse to the edge of his Iris with slight bumps in the appropriate grooves. I have yet to see a, normal sharingan do this.

 

[Ryuu..]

It is very likely that Tobi has a MS.

 

[OnPoint]

I completely agree with just about everything uve said. Also if you pay attention to the page I posted, you'll see that his 3 tomorrow collapse to the edge of his Iris with slight bumps in the appropriate grooves. I have yet to see a normal sharingan do this.

Thanks, and yes, all things point towards Tobi having a Mangekyou Sharingan.

 

[Icelerate]

is this dude serious

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On the panel at the centre-left, we see the Kyubbi's eyes change from a 3 tomoe to something different. It could be a teaser from Kishi to show us that Tobi has a (E)MS.

 

[Bogard]

He said he will cast infinite tsukiyomi. Never heard that a normal sharingan could do something like that

 

[iHateHaters]

Wow, there's a lot of hate aimed at iShodaime. I for one agree with you, Tobi's got a MS (Most likely a EMS).

S/T Techniques require Blood and/or Seals, or MS. For example Minato uses Seals, Summoning Techniques use Blood, Kakashi uses his MS for the Kamui Technique. I think Tobi FTW with a MS for his "Watch me disappear-o" ability.

Same story with the Nine-Tails, MS/EMS for the win. Otherwise, any half-inbred Uchiha with a 3 tomoe Sharingan could control the Kyubbi, I don't see that happening.


As a side note, the whole "Tobi is Madara" has to be bull**** as to the fact Madara was summoned with Impure World Reincarnation, that can't happen unless he is dead. *0* Plot twist

I think Tobi is the eldest son, those wrinkles under his eyes suggest he's been around a long time.

 

[SilverSlick]

Wow, there's a lot of hate aimed at iShodaime. I for one agree with you, Tobi's got a MS (Most likely a EMS).

S/T Techniques require Blood and/or Seals, or MS. For example Minato uses Seals, Summoning Techniques use Blood, Kakashi uses his MS for the Kamui Technique. I think Tobi FTW with a MS for his "Watch me disappear-o" ability.

Same story with the Nine-Tails, MS/EMS for the win. Otherwise, any half-inbred Uchiha with a 3 tomoe Sharingan could control the Kyubbi, I don't see that happening.


As a side note, the whole "Tobi is Madara" has to be bull**** as to the fact Madara was summoned with Impure World Reincarnation, that can't happen unless he is dead. *0* Plot twist

I think Tobi is the eldest son, those wrinkles under his eyes suggest he's been around a long time.

Lol, I agree with iShodaime now. His genjutsu that he put on Yagura is too powerful to be a regular 3-tomoe technique. When I say powerful, it was around Shisui's genjutsu level.

 

[Kuhaku]

As a side note, the whole "Tobi is Madara" has to be bull**** as to the fact Madara was summoned with Impure World Reincarnation, that can't happen unless he is dead. *0* Plot twist

I think Tobi is the eldest son, those wrinkles under his eyes suggest he's been around a long time.

Agreed, Tobi is the eldest son of the Sage of the Six Paths. It would also explain the reason as to why we haven't seen his Mangekyō Sharingan.

 

[Strict]

He has a MS sharingan. That's why you've never seen his sharingan when he uses his S/T ninjutsu, except for that glitch in the anime i'm sure some people may bring up. To summarize, a 3 tomoe sharingan cannot use S/T ninjutsu, nor can it control the Kyuubi.

It's just logical. When Tobi is absorbing someone, his eye becomes the center of the absorption. Just like a black hole is appearing wherever Kakashi is aiming for, Tobis eye becomes a whole which is absorbing them into his dimension. I mean he isn't absorbing someone in his Sharingan.

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Just look how his eye is becoming just a hole which is absorbing anything.

Further it was never shown that Tobi is using the Mangekyou Sharingan, for example by controlling Kyuubi. That you can control Kurama with the MS, doesn't mean you can't do it with a regular Sharingan since it offers you controls as well. Tobis Sharingan is just on a very high level, if not on its maximum.

Tobi would already be blind if it would be a MS, since he used his Jikugan Ido and controls regularly already 20 years ago, if not earlier.

There is no evidence that Tobi is using the MS, also there is no evidence that you couldn't use the Jikugan Ido and such powerful controls by reching the Sharingans maximum. Maybe this technique is unique to him, but still, he is using it with his regular Sharingan.

 

[Airjustu]

He has a MS sharingan. That's why you've never seen his sharingan when he uses his S/T ninjutsu, except for that glitch in the anime i'm sure some people may bring up. To summarize, a 3 tomoe sharingan cannot use S/T ninjutsu, nor can it control the Kyuubi.

Well tobi's not any regular ninja even to kage standards he may be able to do that with a 3T sharingan because of his skills