itachi vs minato

[Owarij]

But it's true that Minato is too fast for him. Is it wrong? Or will you start to say that Itachi is faster than Minato?

About the tsukiyomi, it's like a normal sharingan genjutsu. Only the power change. So Minato doesn't need to know about tsukiyomi to know that sharingan genjutsus should be avoided. Starting a fight with tsukiyomi is like i'm saying Minato could blitz Itachi at the beginning of the fight, but blitzing has more chances to happen than tsukiyomi since tsukiyomi needs eye contact. If Minato doesn't look at his sharingan at the beginning of the fight, i don't know how he could cast it especially when you know that tsukiyomi is a close range jutsu. When Minato blitzing could happen without restrictions in it.

Exactly

o Minato doesn't need to know about tsukiyomi to know that sharingan genjutsus should be avoided

Tell that to Orochimaru, all the kages, anko, danzo and just about everyone else who all looked into sharingan eyes

When you have any legit proof instead of pure guesses and wishful beliefs, come make an argument with me//

Because I can sit here all day and say kiba will know not to look at sharingan.... That doesn't make it true


And are you serious? blitzing is more likely to happen than eye contact" what kind of retard statement is that" eye contact is the first thing that happens in a fight... ask deidara and orochimaru..

 

[Bogard]

Tell that to Orochimaru, all the kages, anko, danzo and just about everyone else who all looked into sharingan eyes

When you have any legit proof instead of pure guesses and wishful beliefs, come make an argument with me//

Because I can sit here all day and say kiba will know not to look at sharingan.... That doesn't make it true


And are you serious? blitzing is more likely to happen than eye contact" what kind of retard statement is that" eye contact is the first thing that happens in a fight... ask deidara and orochimaru..

I wonder then what Kabuto was doing against Itachi and Sasuke. Ask him. Blitzing could definitively happen more likely than genjutsu since genjutsu is avoidable in the contrary of blitzing

 

[lol99]

Tell that to Orochimaru, all the kages, anko, danzo and just about everyone else who all looked into sharingan eyes

When you have any legit proof instead of pure guesses and wishful beliefs, come make an argument with me//

Because I can sit here all day and say kiba will know not to look at sharingan.... That doesn't make it true


And are you serious? blitzing is more likely to happen than eye contact" what kind of retard statement is that" eye contact is the first thing that happens in a fight... ask deidara and orochimaru..

hardly. :|

The kages were each fighting 5 madara clones that's 5 pair of sharingan eyes and yet I didn't see one of them fall to the ground the moment the clones appeared before them.

Only when raikage got distracted and got caught and was forced to look into the eyes did genjutsu come into play

 

[Owarij]

hardly. :|

The kages were each fighting 5 madara clones that's 5 pair of sharingan eyes and yet I didn't see one of them fall to the ground the moment the clones appeared before them.

Only when raikage got distracted and got caught and was forced to look into the eyes did genjutsu come into play

The kages all were looking at his eyes at the start of the match..

Onoki told them to stop it

Go find that manga chapter

And even though they were told about it, Raikage still messed up and did it anyway when he was caught..

The people in this manga who have shown that they know not to make eye contact, has all been people who had experience fighting an uchiha or uchihas..Or know someone who fought them, or one of the for mentioned groups directly telling them of it

Chiyo
kakashi
onoki
kabuto

Kages.. Sannins , Jounins, geniuses, none of which you would expect to do such an act, all did..
Tell me what in the world in the manga gives suggestion that minato would not?
He was a genius yes, but so was Orochimaru, and Tsunade a medical genius in her own right...

 

[lol99]

The kages all were looking at his eyes at the start of the match..

Onoki told them to stop it

Go find that manga chapter

You go look up the chapter only gaara was there when madara appeared and that could easily have been for fodders as gaara has fought uchihas before

 

[Owarij]

You go look up the chapter only gaara was there when madara appeared and that could easily have been for fodders as gaara has fought uchihas before

Gaara fought uchihas? bur? One uchiha, who had almost 0 skill in genjtusu...


Shee is as I said before a genius, who had tons of information on sasuke, uchihas and mangekyou sharingan, and still looked into his eyes . I can provide a list if you wish

 

[Ryuu..]

Ultimately, I think at this point it is likely Itachi is > Minato based on what I've seen, but hype suggests otherwise.

I don't really know.

 

[lol99]

Gaara fought uchihas? bur? One uchiha, who had almost 0 skill in genjtusu...


Shee is as I said before a genius, who had tons of information on sasuke, uchihas and mangekyou sharingan, and still looked into his eyes . I can provide a list if you wish

you can put anyone in a staring contest against uchihas if you like.

Oonoki knew about uchihas- never fell for genjutsu.
Tsunade lives in the same village as uchihas- never fell for genjutsu
Mei- never fell for genjutsu

saying that anyone who so much as stands in front of uchihas gets defeated is nothing but wishful thinking

 

[ulqui0rra]

Tell that to Orochimaru, all the kages, anko, danzo and just about everyone else who all looked into sharingan eyes

When you have any legit proof instead of pure guesses and wishful beliefs, come make an argument with me//

Because I can sit here all day and say kiba will know not to look at sharingan.... That doesn't make it true

all right let me tell u in a little detail

if u watch anime u'd understand to use tsukyomi ur eye must change 3t to ms . in the preparation u need to close ur eyes . theoretically to mold ur chakra i mean if ms consumes more chakra u need to focus in ur eyes first .

2nd it's simple when 1vs 1 u r fighting uchiha u should run then ambush him later .

raikage was so full of himself , while kakashi was confident about his sharingan .

in the fight we r assuming minato really has a chance also his fighting style is different . his first attempt would be to mark itachi as soon as possible .

he can take itachi off guard easily . only if itachi using susanoo before the start of fight he has a chance otherwise minato taking this

 

[Owarij]

you can put anyone in a staring contest against uchihas if you like.

Oonoki knew about uchihas- never fell for genjutsu.
Tsunade lives in the same village as uchihas- never fell for genjutsu
Mei- never fell for genjutsu

saying that anyone who so much as stands in front of uchihas gets defeated is nothing but wishful thinking

Orochimaru lived in the same village as uchihas, infact did extensive research on sharingan and uchihas...

Are you kidding me?

danzo? asuma? kurenai? all these people live in konoha..

Mei never got hit by rasengan is she immune to it?

What i'm saying is that eye contact is a natural thing for someone..
Fighting without eye contact isn't an easy thing... Gai had to train and develop a fighting style to counter kakashi, while chiyo and onoki had experience...

all right let me tell u in a little detail

if u watch anime u'd understand to use tsukyomi ur eye must change 3t to ms . in the preparation u need to close ur eyes . theoretically to mold ur chakra i mean if ms consumes more chakra u need to focus in ur eyes first .

2nd it's simple when 1vs 1 u r fighting uchiha u should run then ambush him later .

raikage was so full of himself , while kakashi was confident about his sharingan .

in the fight we r assuming minato really has a chance also his fighting style is different . his first attempt would be to mark itachi as soon as possible .

he can take itachi off guard easily . only if itachi using susanoo before the start of fight he has a chance otherwise minato taking this

To use any ms jutsu you need to activate ms....And you can do that in a second or less..
As for tsukyomi, You do not need to close your eyes to use it...I have no idea where you got that one from.....

Minato's fighting style is to first grab and scatter his kunai over the battlefield... Ofc itachi would use susanno, everyone with common sense and history knowledge knows how minato's abilities work... Maybe not v2 but atleast the v1 of ftg

 

[Strict]

Gaara fought uchihas? bur? One uchiha, who had almost 0 skill in genjtusu...


Shee is as I said before a genius, who had tons of information on sasuke, uchihas and mangekyou sharingan, and still looked into his eyes . I can provide a list if you wish

I don't get it why people are saying that anyone could just avoid eye contact with his opponent and fight him with the same force, since looking into his opponents eyes is just a matter of habit. Sakura admitted that it isn't easy to avoid eye contact and this is true, since someone like Itachi could easily force you to look into his eyes.

Above Itachi is not only using his Genjutsus with the eyes, he can catch you with his whole body, like a single finger. And the worst thing is that Itachi is using them in the very beginning, without his opponent is even noticing it. Deidara thought also that he is fighting Itachi but actually this was nothing but an illusion. Therefore Kabuto was also closing his eyes instead of just looking at his body b avoiding eye contact, because Genjutsus cannot be casted with eyes only.

Itachi and Minato are playing in the same league, but Itachi has certainly the better cards here.

 

[lol99]

Orochimaru lived in the same village as uchihas, infact did extensive research on sharingan and uchihas...

Are you kidding me?

danzo? asuma? kurenai? all these people live in konoha..

Mei never got hit by rasengan is she immune to it?

What i'm saying is that eye contact is a natural thing for someone..
Fighting without eye contact isn't an easy thing... Gai had to train and develop a fighting style to counter kakashi, while chiyo and onoki had experience...

madara used every opportunity he got to use genjutsu

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and again with raikage

but against kages he never got such opportunity

and if its impossible for anyone other than gai to fight against uchihas then by your logic the kages would have been finished a long time ago

 

[ulqui0rra]

itachi's hopes are tsukyomi and susanoo but the fact is u need to prepare ur eyes to cast a MS technique that time is really crucial here .

minato's fighting style is his first attempt is to mark a seal on u

and once u r marked u r gone .

To use any ms jutsu you need to activate ms....And you can do that in a second or less..
As for tsukyomi, You do not need to close your eyes to use it...I have no idea where you got that one from.....

Minato's fighting style is to first grab and scatter his kunai over the battlefield... Ofc itachi would use susanno, everyone with common sense and history knowledge knows how minato's abilities work... Maybe not v2 but atleast the v1 of ftg

second or a part of second is enough for him this should be it

he spread his kunai into the ground cuz there were more enemies and he wanted to take them alone but when he finds the chance 1st thing he does is to mark u . like he marked killer bee

 

[Zato]

They need to start banning these types of threads...

 

[Owarij]

madara used every opportunity he got to use genjutsu

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and again with raikage

but against kages he never got such opportunity

Utter bs, Using genjutsu on a fodder doesn't = to him using it at every chance he got..

Sasuke used it on shee, Yet gaara looked into his eyes and he didn't use it there.. You have no idea who made eye contact and who didn't..

 

[warlee]

Where is the draw/equal option?

 

[Bogard]

I don't get people who think genjutsu can simply catch everyone that easily. If it's the case then you could easily say that Itachi beats everyone Hashirama included, right? He has no feats that help him to counter genjutsus. Hiruzen also

Because Orochimaru was caught in Itachi's genjutsu has nothing to do with Minato. They don't have the same fighting style at all. Minato is much more careful when he fights than Orochimaru or Deidara. If we take a ninja like Kakashi for example, i could ask why in all the fights against Itachi, he was never surprised by a genjutsu Itachi used? He saw tsukiyomi coming in part1, in part2 he was fighting Itachi at close range and Itachi never tried a genjutsu

 

[Ryuu..]

What I will say is, the way Itachi's strategies are made out, he should defeat everyone except possibly Madara (who can break out of Tsukuyomi and is superior to Itachi). Clearly that is not the case so the strategies presented must be unreasonable.

 

[Owarij]

I don't get people who think genjutsu can simply catch everyone that easily. If it's the case then you could easily say that Itachi beats everyone Hashirama included, right? He has no feats that help him to counter genjutsus. Hiruzen also

Because Orochimaru was caught in Itachi's genjutsu has nothing to do with Minato. They don't have the same fighting style at all. Minato is much more careful when he fights than Orochimaru or Deidara. If we take a ninja like Kakashi for example, i could ask why in all the fights against Itachi, he was never surprised by a genjutsu Itachi used? He saw tsukiyomi coming in part1, in part2 he was fighting Itachi at close range and Itachi never tried a genjutsu

Itachi never tried a genjutsu on Kakashi because everyone knows he has sharingan, and sharingan helps see through genjutsu...THAT IS OBVIOUS.... It's why itachi went to tsukyomi instead to deal with kakashi

In part 2 kakashi learnt his lesson and was not looking at itachi's eyes... he even told naruto, sakura etc not to do it

Orochimaru isn't a retard, He is as smart or is smarter than Minato, and i have seen nothing in this manga to suggest that he isn't as assiduous as Minato, Kakashi or any other genius in the manga...

 

[takiyacrowz]

the biggest drawback of itachi - he is a weak willed man full of hesitation
he could not save the clan and village both together
now that itachi fans are having some trouble with itachi getting down rated in other threads
they are picking fight on minato :sy:

itachi fans are trolling here that's all