isn't madara already on the sage of six path base level

is madara on the sage of six path(with out the ten tails) level


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TobisPawn

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You're overrating S/T as usual. Tobi had trouble against 2 fodders. Don't ever compare them to Uchiha Madara.

Yup, avoiding the question. Tobi had no trouble against the "fodders" and he'd have less against Madara seeing that he has no destructive insects.

Fact is that Madara has no counter to Tobi's warping. :cool: Its not overrated just because its the truth.
 
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Yup, avoiding the question. Tobi had no trouble against the "fodders" and he'd have less against Madara seeing that he has no destructive insects.

Fact is that Madara has no counter to Tobi's warping. :cool:

I've already explained why Tobi won't warp any Elite Uchiha nor perfect jinchuuriki away.
 

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I've already explained why Tobi won't warp any Elite Uchiha nor perfect jinchuuriki away.

What are you trying to get at? All Tobi has to do is touch him, and Madara's gone. He doesn't need to "tame" Madara in his dimension when all he really has to do is let him starve to death. And the Konan thing is flawed because Tobi didn't feel the impact in his dimension. He absorbed the explosion instead of Konan but he couldn't get all of it.
 

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What are you trying to get at? All Tobi has to do is touch him, and Madara's gone. He doesn't need to "tame" Madara in his dimension when all he really has to do is let him starve to death. And the Konan thing is flawed because Tobi didn't feel the impact in his dimension. He absorbed the explosion instead of Konan but he couldn't get all of it.

YES, he's going to let immortal/Edo Madara starve to death.

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YES, he's going to let immortal/Edo Madara starve to death.

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Alright, he keeps him in his dimension forever, and Madara then loses. Your point? Its pretty much like a ring-out. Unless you're implying that Madara can escape his dimension. :rolleyes:

And again, no counter so you resort to joking around. Tobi can go into his dimension, place Madara in a Genjutsu, and seal him if it'll make you happy.
 

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Alright, he keeps him in his dimension forever, and Madara then loses. Your point? Its pretty much like a ring-out. Unless you're implying that Madara can escape his dimension. :rolleyes:

And again, no counter so you resort to joking around. Tobi can go into his dimension, place Madara in a Genjutsu, and seal him if it'll make you happy.

You see this is were assumption is used in its own favor. You are assuming Madara can't get away and will be trapped forever, meanwhile in other threads you're spreading the theory how Tobi can warp in a Perfect Susano.

The fact is Tobi never warped away any Elite opponent, instead he had trouble against fodders. This is enough to make me believe he's not capable to defend himself against Madara.

Tobi had S/T when Kabuto showed him the coffin Madara was in, and he still shit his pants.

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Madara is beyond the Juubi Sage's level
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This is a great theory and thread + Rep

Also nice work on collecting this info and collating it
 

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Alright, he keeps him in his dimension forever, and Madara then loses. Your point? Its pretty much like a ring-out. Unless you're implying that Madara can escape his dimension. :rolleyes:

And again, no counter so you resort to joking around. Tobi can go into his dimension, place Madara in a Genjutsu, and seal him if it'll make you happy.

if madara used perfect susanno it owuld backfire on tobi the reason is the bigger the object the more mass tobi needs to collect so madara can just hit tobi with it or just use shinrai tensai to push tobi away because shinrai tensai is instant.
 

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Madara may have what base sage have but his skills w/ it pales in comparism to the sage. [ we can't say because obito has the sharingan he is as strong as itachi] And the dna's is not as strong as the source it's diluted. Don't compare
 
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Madara may have what base sage have but his skills w/ it pales in comparism to the sage. [ we can't say because obito has the sharingan he is as strong as itachi] And the dna's is not as strong as the source it's diluted. Don't compare

how can you say it is diluted the uchiha intermarry with their own family and the senju had close relations with uzumaki as well.

the thing is madara is a master of his dojutsu's he knows how to use them and shows great skill by manipulating tailed beast's.
 

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You see this is were assumption is used in its own favor. You are assuming Madara can't get away and will be trapped forever, meanwhile in other threads you're spreading the theory how Tobi can warp in a Perfect Susano.

LOL wtf getting inside a chakra construct =/ escaping another dimension. The wank is powerful with you. Tobi can warp into Susanoo, Madara can't escape another dimension.

The fact is Tobi never warped away any Elite opponent, instead he had trouble against fodders. This is enough to make me believe he's not capable to defend himself against Madara.

This is really your only argument and its pretty crappy. Madara hasn't killed any "elite" opponent with his Susanoo so I guess he can't right? Instead of using terrible hype/assumptions why don't you use actual logic and give me a good counter Madara has against Tobi's S/T techs?

And again, Tobi didn't have trouble with Fu and Torune.

Tobi had S/T when Kabuto showed him the coffin Madara was in, and he still shit his pants.

Still using this shit argument too? Tobi recovered from his shock (not fright) a few seconds later. And using that terrible logic, Tobi > Edo Madara + Kabuto seeing that, using your words, Kabuto "shit his pants" when Tobi threatened him. :rolleyes:

I'm off for now. I will come back and answer your remaining questions.

You should work on actually answering them instead of giving roundabout answers with no logic or proof behind them. :rolleyes:

How does Madara counter Tobi's warping?

if madara used perfect susanno it owuld backfire on tobi the reason is the bigger the object the more mass tobi needs to collect so madara can just hit tobi with it or just use shinrai tensai to push tobi away because shinrai tensai is instant.

Madara has no feats in using Shinra Tensei. He died shortly after gaining the Rinnegan, so nothing suggests that he's even mastered it. And if you're using this logic, Tobi can cancel it out with his own Shinra Tensei.

And btw, Tobi can warp into Susanoo.
 
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When madara defeats a full powered juubi, then we will talk about him being on the sages base level.
 

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When madara defeats a full powered juubi, then we will talk about him being on the sages base level.

madara probably can since he cannot die so it would be easier, so he can just contain and control the bijuu with his dojutsu and wood release
 
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