Okay, I am an Orochimaru fan, but not a fanboy. I truly believed Orochimaru to be gone once Kabuto surpassed him. So I am no fanboy. The only ninja I respect as TRUE shinobi are real ninja that attained their power with their own intellect and training; No bloodlines...No luck of the draw genetics. This leaves the likes of Uchiha, Senju, and Uzumaki.
Ninja like Jiraiya, Kakashi, Orochimaru, Minato, Sasori, and Kabuto are the best because they attained their power by practice and research. At top of that heap lie Minato and Orochimaru. Minato due to his might, and Orochimaru for having the biggest series of non-bloodline limit A-Rank and S-Rank Jutsu. Eternal Rebirth (S-Rank), Eight Branches Technique (S-Rank), Impure World Resurrection (S-Rank), Five Elements Seal (A-Rank), Cursed Seal (A-Rank), Triple Rashoumon (A-Rank), and now this new technique that is obviously going to be the biggest one yet. This makes him the most well-versed natural shinobi in the world.
Though as some people have claimed, the context in the new chapter sort of implies that Sasuke is using Orochimaru as a stepping stone to reach the person who knows everything. The only one that would know more than Madara himself would be Harishima...Which means Orochimaru has found a way to take complete control of the Shinigami Reaper. Having control of the four Hokages is pretty much enough to trump Kabuto's original army, plus he'd be able to seal souls on a whim.
You're officially a retard in my book. Orochimaru couldn't take Sasuke's body let alone Itachi's and you're saying he's going to eventually possess Madara's.
If you havent read the latest chapters i suggest you do so before you read this thread
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Where do I start . May i first say ive underestimated oro from the beginning and i apologise to his fanbase. What i have to say might get them of their seat and perhaps even start daydreaming xd. Anyway after reading the latest chapter i believe;
Oro is the greatest villain in the manga
Oro is still alive
We might see oro again
Oro might be the final villain
First of all this is the DB entry for oro if you want to read;
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Anyway Back on topic as i said oro still lives. The similarities between Orochimaru and Voldermolt is not just the snake affiliation or the fact that both are refereed to as 'Lord'. In Voldermort case the horcrux in Orochimaru's case the Curse seal. Im not here to discuss Harry potter but basically Voldermort split his soul and sealed them in different items. In oro's case he did something similar with the curse seal, but his is a step further. Oro's curse seal as description by the DB;
Juin Jutsu (Cursed Seal Techniques) | Orochimaru
*Supplemental* *Close* A
A jutsu with a baneful seal that draws out one's malevolent chakra!!
A cursed mark imprinted on those Orochimaru has deemed to possess both talent and wickedness. Conferment of the seal is accompanied by intense pain, and few survive beyond this point.
It reacts to chakra molded in the body and draws out every last bit of the subject's chakra. At the same time, it attempts to unleash the evil in the subject's heart. Aside from Sasuke, Orochi's former pupil Anko also possesses the mark.
->The curse seal eerily floats to the nape of his neck! What lies in store for Sasuke!?
Databook 1, page 194
Apart from giving the user a chakra boost, but also contains orochimaru's chakra;
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As long as you have the curse seal orochimaru's chakra runs in you and with this chakra will eventually take over you;
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So orochimaru lives in everybody who has his chakra in them. The question is who else has orochimaru's chakra in them. Well there is Anko as ive showed you, but also kabuto;
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Kabuto doesnt have the curse mark, but because he implanted some of oro in him oro's chakra also resides in himself and as kabuto said its trying to take over kabuto, the same thing that is happens to people with the curse seal. So it seems that as long as orochimaru's chakra resides in somebody there will always be hope of a return, he will never die until the people left with his chakra are erased, it seems there was always more ways than the Fushi Tensei (Living corpse reincarnation) for oro to take over a victims body.
Now for the theory that will get oro's fanbase of their seat. As we know oro has a thing for the uchiha and their powers. We saw that from the very beginning with itachi. Then he returned during the chunnin exams for sasuke and later tried to take over his body for sasuke to reverse it and absorb him. Basically orochimaru has wanted the power of uchiha for a very long time and has failed with itachi and sasuke who has had the curse mark taken away from him. Whilst orochimaru mightve failed to get these 2 uchiha's, he will get an uchiha. the question is who?. The answer is Uchiha madara. Yes i believe there will be a plot twist. I believe orochimaru will finally be awarded with the final villain. Will be awarded with his long dream of becoming an uchiha, orochimaru will take over madara's body because i believe orochimaru's chakra runs through madara currently.
First of all witht he latest chapter, im sure we saw the manga intentionally show us anko's curse seal and on that same page madara grabbed his neck. That location is usually where the curse seal is;
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I believe there is more to kabuto's enhancements that meets the eye. I believe he has added orochimasharu's chakra some way to madara and this is why;
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So either madara's enhancements also has the cm2 nd thats why he grabbed his neck or as kabuto said he needs the cm2 because orochimaru's chakra resides in that and was using that power to bind his edo tensei's. Either war i believe orochimaru's chakra has been connected to madara's and it will not be long before he tries to take over the greatest uchiha and accomplish his plans. Funny enough this also links in very well with his philisophy. As we know the whole point of oro's existence is to learn the 'truth' of the world;
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The whole reason for his research is to accomplish a technique that will make him go from one body to another because as we know we age, we die. But what if the body that orochimaru's takes over doesnt age and doesnt die, he will accomplish what he has always wanted;
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But also he wants to learn about the basis of ninjutsu and every ninjutsu that existed and its no reason why he wants an uchiha from the very start. Its because of the rinnegan, something that madara also possesses ;
My first thought is, when madara was summoned, he almost immediately checked on the enhancements that kabuto gave him. He checked for the face on his chest. Perhaps this is because kabuto told him about the modifications, but that doesn't explain how madara knew exactly what the enhancement was. This leads me to believe that madara would know if there was a seal on his body that is going to drain his consciousness. After all of his feats and techniques i feel like he wouldn't just be trolled by a seal he just never happened to see.
My second point is that i never thought orochimaru was the greatest villain. I almost cheared when sasuke threw him off of his pedestal into his place by telling him that he had lost his purpose of learning every jutsu, and was now simply toying with people's lives.
Lastly, when sasuke had run out of chakra against itachi, orochimaru flared out of sasuke's body through his curse seal. According to this theory he might as well have just taken over sasuke's body there, as if it is believed that 1% of orochimaru's chakra could take over Madara Uchiha's immortal body with infinite chakra, then it should be the easiest thing in the world to take over an exhausted, 0 chakra sasuke using orochimaru's full body of chakra. But orochimaru did not attempt to steal sasuke's body by overwhelming his body through the curse mark, he instead brought himself back in a new body, which he then claimed he would discard to use his snake reincarnation technique. Why would he do that if he could take over anyone who has a curse mark?
Edit: Ok, my second point isn't really a point, but it's my opinion. Haha
I dont disagree with this idea, but I also dont want orochimaru back. Orochimaru lost his mystery and luster, I dont think he should play a prominent role on the battlefied if he is to return.
If this happens I will give you 100 dollars bank payment you will see. Simply becasuse it is impossible.
Edo Tensei was a best jutsu ever, the most strongest, no weakness, and what Madara did ? He told to tell the user to not use forbidden jutsu uncarefully .. He was making fun of Kabuto because he revived him and he told he wouldn't get bound by such a jutsu and the only one who broke free of CONTROL was Itachi with Kotoamatsukami, while Madara BROKE EDO TENSEI without Koto.
You think Madara will let take some Orochimaru his body ? Madara allready trolled best Orochimaru jutsu, he won't be trolled.
I like this theory +rep and hopefully happens. orochimaru was the first villain we saw, it would be interesting to see him coming back and be the last villain of the series.
I like this theory +rep and hopefully happens. orochimaru was the first villain we saw, it would be interesting to see him coming back and be the last villain of the series.
Excellent as always, Blaze Release.... You are indeed one of the few LEGIT observers of this entire website. Kudos to you... And especially IF this actually happens. +rep.
If you havent read the latest chapters i suggest you do so before you read this thread
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Where do I start . May i first say ive underestimated oro from the beginning and i apologise to his fanbase. What i have to say might get them of their seat and perhaps even start daydreaming xd. Anyway after reading the latest chapter i believe;
Oro is the greatest villain in the manga
Oro is still alive
We might see oro again
Oro might be the final villain
First of all this is the DB entry for oro if you want to read;
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Anyway Back on topic as i said oro still lives. The similarities between Orochimaru and Voldermolt is not just the snake affiliation or the fact that both are refereed to as 'Lord'. In Voldermort case the horcrux in Orochimaru's case the Curse seal. Im not here to discuss Harry potter but basically Voldermort split his soul and sealed them in different items. In oro's case he did something similar with the curse seal, but his is a step further. Oro's curse seal as description by the DB;
Juin Jutsu (Cursed Seal Techniques) | Orochimaru
*Supplemental* *Close* A
A jutsu with a baneful seal that draws out one's malevolent chakra!!
A cursed mark imprinted on those Orochimaru has deemed to possess both talent and wickedness. Conferment of the seal is accompanied by intense pain, and few survive beyond this point.
It reacts to chakra molded in the body and draws out every last bit of the subject's chakra. At the same time, it attempts to unleash the evil in the subject's heart. Aside from Sasuke, Orochi's former pupil Anko also possesses the mark.
->The curse seal eerily floats to the nape of his neck! What lies in store for Sasuke!?
Databook 1, page 194
Apart from giving the user a chakra boost, but also contains orochimaru's chakra;
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As long as you have the curse seal orochimaru's chakra runs in you and with this chakra will eventually take over you;
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So orochimaru lives in everybody who has his chakra in them. The question is who else has orochimaru's chakra in them. Well there is Anko as ive showed you, but also kabuto;
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Kabuto doesnt have the curse mark, but because he implanted some of oro in him oro's chakra also resides in himself and as kabuto said its trying to take over kabuto, the same thing that is happens to people with the curse seal. So it seems that as long as orochimaru's chakra resides in somebody there will always be hope of a return, he will never die until the people left with his chakra are erased, it seems there was always more ways than the Fushi Tensei (Living corpse reincarnation) for oro to take over a victims body.
Now for the theory that will get oro's fanbase of their seat. As we know oro has a thing for the uchiha and their powers. We saw that from the very beginning with itachi. Then he returned during the chunnin exams for sasuke and later tried to take over his body for sasuke to reverse it and absorb him. Basically orochimaru has wanted the power of uchiha for a very long time and has failed with itachi and sasuke who has had the curse mark taken away from him. Whilst orochimaru mightve failed to get these 2 uchiha's, he will get an uchiha. the question is who?. The answer is Uchiha madara. Yes i believe there will be a plot twist. I believe orochimaru will finally be awarded with the final villain. Will be awarded with his long dream of becoming an uchiha, orochimaru will take over madara's body because i believe orochimaru's chakra runs through madara currently.
First of all witht he latest chapter, im sure we saw the manga intentionally show us anko's curse seal and on that same page madara grabbed his neck. That location is usually where the curse seal is;
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I believe there is more to kabuto's enhancements that meets the eye. I believe he has added orochimasharu's chakra some way to madara and this is why;
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So either madara's enhancements also has the cm2 nd thats why he grabbed his neck or as kabuto said he needs the cm2 because orochimaru's chakra resides in that and was using that power to bind his edo tensei's. Either war i believe orochimaru's chakra has been connected to madara's and it will not be long before he tries to take over the greatest uchiha and accomplish his plans. Funny enough this also links in very well with his philisophy. As we know the whole point of oro's existence is to learn the 'truth' of the world;
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The whole reason for his research is to accomplish a technique that will make him go from one body to another because as we know we age, we die. But what if the body that orochimaru's takes over doesnt age and doesnt die, he will accomplish what he has always wanted;
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But also he wants to learn about the basis of ninjutsu and every ninjutsu that existed and its no reason why he wants an uchiha from the very start. Its because of the rinnegan, something that madara also possesses ;
