Naruto without Bijuu
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naruto has plenty chakra without kurama
and the chidori needs the sharingan
he needs the sharingan to see movements
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and the chidori needs the sharingan
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he needs the sharingan to see movements
Lets leave aside the fact that if we take Kurama out of the equation Minato and Kushina would still be alive and Naruto would be just as badass learning jutsus from his father, sealing jutsus from her mother, and still have huge amounts of chakra on his own (he's an uzumaki)
Right now without the fox:
- he would still have SM, and would have been better with it (Ma & Pa could have fused with him and considering his own chakra level he could have stayed in Sm for a very long time)
- he would still have his summons
- he could still use the Kagebunshin and the Rasenshuriken (yes not as much as he does now but could still use it)
Until recently the only thing he got from Kurama was a little boost of chakra... but remember that Kakashi said Naruto himself has twice as much chakra as him... and look at what Kakashi is capable of.
Right now without the fox:
- he would still have SM, and would have been better with it (Ma & Pa could have fused with him and considering his own chakra level he could have stayed in Sm for a very long time)
- he would still have his summons
- he could still use the Kagebunshin and the Rasenshuriken (yes not as much as he does now but could still use it)
Until recently the only thing he got from Kurama was a little boost of chakra... but remember that Kakashi said Naruto himself has twice as much chakra as him... and look at what Kakashi is capable of.
There we go, smart men right there. ^
@sage1999: I am sure somewhere in the narutoverse Sasuke is enjoying your heavily implied ass-lick right now, but imo it's just not good enough =/
sasuke used his copy ability to take in lee taijutsu and build his speed to the level needed for chidori so without sharingan no chidori also dont forget that kakashi invented chidori and it was a useless tech that minato told kakashi not to use and not until the shiraingan did it become effective in anyway so again i say no sharingan no chidori
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Narutohokage7
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He did have sharingan while learning it, otherwise Kakashi wouldn't have taught him it duhhh
Naruto could have learned Sage Mode and Rasen shuriken without the 9 tails. It is just that they decided to take advantage of the 9 tails power to turn months of training into just a few days. He can use Multi Shadow clones without the 9 tails. Remember Orochimaru cut off access to the 9 tails and he was able to use them against Kiba. If you follow the series you would know that the 9 tails is a double edged sword. But you are clearly one of those crazy Naruto haters.
Gooner4life
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Don't forget as well, that for a lot of his life Sasuke had a clan of geniuses to teach him while Naruto had no one which is because of Kurama, even when he became a genin, Kakashi played favourites with Sasuke. If someone devoted time to training him like Fugaku with Sasuke imagine how much better he could be. Odds are he would have mastered even more jutsu as Kurama makes his chakra control worse and he would probably be able to do a one handed rasengan if it wasn't there.
Kurama has also been a hindrance to him and his base chakra would be higher without the ninetails. Even with that limitation he has four times the chakra reserve of a powerful ninja like Kakashi.
Naruto could spam hundreds of shadow clones( a B-rank technique) at twelve without much help from most of his academy instructors, chakra develops as you get older and more experienced and he was able do that minutes after learning he even had the Kyuubi. The Kyuubi saw he was weak and tried to take over him during the training, that had nothing to do with him dying if Kurama wasn't involved, you just arsepulled that so Kurama didn't really have anything to do with him learning RS
Against Gaara, Naruto summoned Gamabunta, with his own chakra, not the ninetails and senjutsu is possible for anyone as long as you have large chakra reserves and a summoning contract, both of which Naruto has without the ninetails and perfecting its was even harder for him as he can't fuse with the sage toads.
I'm gonna put this thread down to ignorance rather than being a Naruto hater as you don't seem the type, Naruto would be very strong without the Kyuubi and Kurama has hindered Naruto in a number of ways too. Please think before posting threads like these, it'll save you a lot of trouble
Kurama has also been a hindrance to him and his base chakra would be higher without the ninetails. Even with that limitation he has four times the chakra reserve of a powerful ninja like Kakashi.
Naruto could spam hundreds of shadow clones( a B-rank technique) at twelve without much help from most of his academy instructors, chakra develops as you get older and more experienced and he was able do that minutes after learning he even had the Kyuubi. The Kyuubi saw he was weak and tried to take over him during the training, that had nothing to do with him dying if Kurama wasn't involved, you just arsepulled that so Kurama didn't really have anything to do with him learning RS
Against Gaara, Naruto summoned Gamabunta, with his own chakra, not the ninetails and senjutsu is possible for anyone as long as you have large chakra reserves and a summoning contract, both of which Naruto has without the ninetails and perfecting its was even harder for him as he can't fuse with the sage toads.
I'm gonna put this thread down to ignorance rather than being a Naruto hater as you don't seem the type, Naruto would be very strong without the Kyuubi and Kurama has hindered Naruto in a number of ways too. Please think before posting threads like these, it'll save you a lot of trouble
Prince of Persia TTT
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MilwaukeegHost
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Uh... No. Sasuke does NOT have the Curse Mark anymore. So...
Sasuke (without Sharigan) < Sage Mode Naruto (without Kuubi)
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Gooner4life
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Your right, but it is assumed everyone who seems to hate on Naruto seems to be a big Sasuke fan. Whether that is true or not, they are always going to linked even in these forums. It's just a fact of life
After Naruo learned how to control Bijuu Mode. He was able to fight off the Kages not with senjutsu(although he did use it to sense the raiage) but with the nine tails. Naruto was also able to dodge most of Edo Pain in Bijuu Mode. I didnt see any Senjutsu or other jutsu.
Thanks but i really dont think you shouldDon't forget as well, that for a lot of his life Sasuke had a clan of geniuses to teach him while Naruto had no one which is because of Kurama, even when he became a genin, Kakashi played favourites with Sasuke. If someone devoted time to training him like Fugaku with Sasuke imagine how much better he could be. Odds are he would have mastered even more jutsu as Kurama makes his chakra control worse and he would probably be able to do a one handed rasengan if it wasn't there.
Kurama has also been a hindrance to him and his base chakra would be higher without the ninetails. Even with that limitation he has four times the chakra reserve of a powerful ninja like Kakashi.
Naruto could spam hundreds of shadow clones( a B-rank technique) at twelve without much help from most of his academy instructors, chakra develops as you get older and more experienced and he was able do that minutes after learning he even had the Kyuubi. The Kyuubi saw he was weak and tried to take over him during the training, that had nothing to do with him dying if Kurama wasn't involved, you just arsepulled that so Kurama didn't really have anything to do with him learning RS
Against Gaara, Naruto summoned Gamabunta, with his own chakra, not the ninetails and senjutsu is possible for anyone as long as you have large chakra reserves and a summoning contract, both of which Naruto has without the ninetails and perfecting its was even harder for him as he can't fuse with the sage toads.
I'm gonna put this thread down to ignorance rather than being a Naruto hater as you don't seem the type, Naruto would be very strong without the Kyuubi and Kurama has hindered Naruto in a number of ways too. Please think before posting threads like these, it'll save you a lot of trouble
It would waste ur time and also, dont forget that when naruto fought shukaku, gambunta asked to be transformed into something else(Nine-tails) to grab shukaku. How the hell would naruto have known what to use f not for Kurama.