[Predictions] Complete Susanoo

Allan Hoshigaki

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I think nagato so far as shown a better mastery of the rinnegan.

Nagato was using all the path abilties at once more or less.

I mean when madara first encountered the wind rasengan he just used a shinra tensei while nagato was using that, chakra absortbtion, asuma path all at once.

That was when he used them when he used them from his body. But when he used the reanimte(black rods) tech he was spaming all them at once.

Not saying madara cant do these things but nagato diffinitly has shown hes mastered the rinnegan. The battle he had with bee and naruto case in point.

And unlike madara he doesnt have hasihrama's dna for a chakra boost. Nagato still did village sized shinra tensei and then chika tensei enough to contain a full sized nine tails beast more or less.

It would have been very good see nagato not physically paralysed from gedo mazo all those years ago.

Key difference i can see with madara is he throwing in sassano for defence while nagato only could use the rinnegan's skills for defence.

In terms of only rinnegan skill nagato has shown more skills than madara as of now. I dont know what that metor jutsu is where its him doing a busho tenin to attract a rock from space or what. But its diffinetly not chika tensei which is the rinnegans most bs tech by far.

if nagato killed veryone in the leaf and brought them all back he mastered that shit i agree with you. but he doesnt have the body of an uchiha were the eye will work its best. and with madara rinnegan he has all his eye abilities from sharingan to MS to EMS and rinnegan all in his 2 eyes. that technique he showed bringing those 2 meteors down doesnt that show you he aswell mastered the rinnegan not taking anything away from nagato he was a great ninja. but the fact still remains that the rinnegan belongs to the uchiha and not uzumaki. and i have a feeeling in 2 weeks your gonna see the rinnegan at full potential. also im pretty sure madara can do all of pains techniques with the rinnegan aswell. but nagato mastered it for sure even tobi admitted that
 

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regardless of whether it is complete or not, I believe that the kages will win this one. So if there is another level, they will simply destroy that. Itachi's words, every jutsu has a weakness!

thats true every true. but madara has senju and uchiha cells and sharingan Ms EMS and rinnegan he is fighting alll five kages and they yet to even damage his body to the point were it has to regenerate. madara is on another level to the kages
 

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I couldn't agree with you more.

He doesn't understand that every Susanoo looks different. Madara's was in fact complete. Susanoo is NOT INVINCIBLE even in compelte form. People just believe that because Itachi had the Yata mirror. But we've seen Sasuke's complete susanoo get exploited by Danzo. Same can happen with Madara.

Did i miss something? Did we even watch the same fight? I dont remember sasuke using his final form of susano'o against danzo :confused:

Anyways, i also believe that madara wasnt using his final susano'o form. It doesnt make sense for kishi to show us the final form of one of the most hyped jutsus in the manga so soon. Especially when it belongs to one of the most hyped characters. Just my opinion though.
 

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Did i miss something? Did we even watch the same fight? I dont remember sasuke using his final form of susano'o against danzo :confused:

Anyways, i also believe that madara wasnt using his final susano'o form. It doesnt make sense for kishi to show us the final form of one of the most hyped jutsus in the manga so soon. Especially when it belongs to one of the most hyped characters. Just my opinion though.

yea he didnt show his final form that was his second stage. when he fought kakashi he showed a glimpse of it before his eyes died out also i dont think thats madaras final form either and when we do see it its a wrap
 

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LOL blockheads... That is his complete susanoo, you keep saying how it doesn't resemble any of the other susanoo but you are also saying that they all look different, well what if Madara's susanoo doesn't come with armor! Sasuke and Itachi's susanoo's both have armor because they are related to each other also now Sasuke even has Itachi's eyes so the susanoo is going to be very similar and have the same armor attribute. However Madara's susanoo may have something like stronger offensive abilities instead of strong armor. Also I'm not even sure if the stage of the susanoo can be controlled, doesn't it instantly go to the highest version? Think about it, if Sasuke could control which version of susanoo he uses he could switch between using the bow on his susanoo to the spear and back to whatever the first one was. I think susanoo only reverts back to a lower version if you are running out of chakra.

Actually, in itachi's fight against nagato, he used his first form of susano'o to pull naruto and bee away from nagato. Then as the fight went on, upgraded to level 3 to seal nagato away.

And if we are going by the logic that susano'o looks different based on the person that uses them, then its also safe to say that different techniques can be performed. That could explain why madara can perform yasaka magatama from, what i would call, his level 1 susano'o.

Even when itachi was making his yasaka magatama, his susano'o seemed to be half lvl 1 and half lvl 2.
 

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Has someone said whether or not someone has to unlock the susanoo through steps?

For instance, when Itachi summoned his, it was the complete form. However while Sasuke was playing with his, it had to grow into the complete form. What I'm saying is, has there been an incident where an Uchiha has used V1 or V2 of their susanoo AFTER already 'unlocking' its final form?

Also, if Madara's susanoo was capable of performing such a high level jutsu as well as throw around tomoe, how could it have been a lesser version? Sasuke's incomplete Susanoo wasn't able to shoot arrows or do anything while in V2.

Edit: After going back and taking a look, Blitz Ace was completely right about V1 protecting Naruto against Nagato. However, it looks like in order for it to fire its attack, the susanoo had to transform to level 3. If you look, while its preparing the attack it's growing skin and armor.
 
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You can build something to completion.
That does not mean that it is it's final form.

Build a skyscraper to completion,
Additions can be made.
 

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You sir are a moron.

You start of by insulting me, not only does that allude to your immaturity but that in itself deters any sort of argument you cuold have come up with.

I will insult you now; what goes around comes back around.

The majority of evidence is an inference. I could very well provide it, but I won't to you, because you've lost any semblance of respect I could ever have had for you.



If you were unable to comprehend the significance of that post and image, then your visual comprehension skills as well as your reading skills are abysmal to say the least. You'd have to be mentally handicapped to be unable to derive a conclusion from that image/post. It was even detailed textually. You could have asked for clarification but you didn't, instead you troll, how ironic.

Speaking of which, you provide no evidence of your own, you only enter a thread insulting someone immediately. You, have no credibility.


As if I care about what lousy genin has to say, if you were attempting to rile me up or taunt, you've failed. Your opinion is moot, newbie.

Good riddance to you, foul sir.

Yet you start the thread off by preparing to call people idiots.
I love this guy


PS: is my post count high enough for you?
 

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Bookmark this thread, please.

Some people, especially haters, no matter how much they're proven wrong still seem to think that the Susanoo Madara was using, when the Raikage broke through was complete.

It WAS NOT Complete.

Come, the next few weeks/chapters, when the full or complete Susanoo is shown...

I'm going to laugh at you.
And forever consider you an idiot.

Mark my words. And if you feel the same way, post so I know that you are one of the sensible ones, and you'll get to laugh at others with me.

well aslong kishi doesnt show us a more completed version, i think we all have the right to laugh at u and calling u idiot, idiot!

Mark my words. And if you feel the same way, post so I know that you are one of the sensible ones, and you'll get to laugh at OP with me here and now. :)

Just bookmark it here where I wrote :p
 

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Has someone said whether or not someone has to unlock the susanoo through steps?

For instance, when Itachi summoned his, it was the complete form. However while Sasuke was playing with his, it had to grow into the complete form. What I'm saying is, has there been an incident where an Uchiha has used V1 or V2 of their susanoo AFTER already 'unlocking' its final form?

Also, if Madara's susanoo was capable of performing such a high level jutsu as well as throw around tomoe, how could it have been a lesser version? Sasuke's incomplete Susanoo wasn't able to shoot arrows or do anything while in V2.

Edit: After going back and taking a look, Blitz Ace was completely right about V1 protecting Naruto against Nagato. However, it looks like in order for it to fire its attack, the susanoo had to transform to level 3. If you look, while its
preparing the attack it's growing skin and armor.

Ya and thats where a lot of confusion is coming from. You call in lvl 3, but others would call in level 2 simply because it has skin but no armor.
 

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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. I've always thought you were one of the more sensible ones.




You should not have been so bold, you weren't sure. I, on other hand have no doubts. I'm correct.

It was complete get over it. Although I still think if it had the yata mirror then the 2 kages won't be able to break it.
 

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i think it complete and dont know why all you fanboys cant just admit that the kages arnt pushovers
 

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I very much agree with you, but uchihas other than itachi are garbage, that why them hoes got exterminated, because there weak!!!!! lol
 

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Yea Itachis susanoo is more powerful and EMS Sasuke's is going to be the most powerful Susanoo because it's Itachi's eyes + his.
 

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Complite susano is Itachis sudano with unique item set "sword and shild" all the rest has its weekness:) Madara would be so jelous of Itachi:)
 

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Susanoo is consider an ultimate defense, but just like Itachi said everything has a weakness. Any defense will have a weakness to crack it. Gaara's ultimate defense is not perfect either. I believe the perfect Susanoo is Itachi's because of the special shield and sword. The special shield really do and can block any attack. The reason Raikage destroyed Madara's Susanoo is because 1) It's not complete. 2) The back is it's weakness. :shrug:
 
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