Why Itachi is a bad match up for minato

[Retsu]

skimmed through, saw nothing that anyone else hasn't already seen or heard

 

[Sporticus100]

3T3RNaL made good points, I don't think he deserves the flame he's getting since he clearly put more thought into this than a lot of other threads...

 

[Frikid]

didn't read and you made a wrong thread at wrong place and at a wrong time.

This is going to be hottest thread though

 

[yeahhboi]

NONE of itachi techniques will work on mianto, speed is sharigan weakness, if minato was suseptible to genjutsu tobi would have used it on him and wouldnt run away when he tried to get the fox, also mianto is alot smarter than itachi

mianto cant get hit with amaterasu or sword or sword of totsuka or anything else, he is too much for itachi
and inzanami wont work on minato cause minato is not confused about who he is

 

[villain55]

3T3RNaL made good points, I don't think he deserves the flame he's getting since he clearly put more thought into this than a lot of other threads...

I think you and me are the only one who read this thread i saw some good points too but i still disagree so i'm out peace all of you have fun with the Minato and itachi threads

 

[3T3RNaL]

I think you and me are the only one who read this thread i saw some good points too but i still disagree so i'm out peace all of you have fun with the Minato and itachi threads

it doesnt matter if u disagree ...just happy u read and expressed what u thought

 

[Frikid]

My answers are in italic


okay if u dont like reading this thread isnt for u...btw plz grant me the knowing u read this. i put effort into this and wuld greatly aprecaite knowing u read and didnt just sho it off

I pictured this fight in the Grassy field from Naruto shippuden storm 2.



FTG with kunai
lets get straight into it .... So minato's FTG is mainly used with kunai .... already this is bad for him against itachi. Itachi is one of or possibly the best kunai thrower in manga(ex. sasuke vs itachi).So getting a kunai that culd actually get close to him would be pretty hard and itachi having the mangekyo could keep with plenty of kunais at once if minato were to try and spam his kunai throws to try and get one past.MS has shown various times the speeds it can keep up with.
Well some ppl idk why wen i have posted this have told me he can teleport to the paper with the FTG seal on it and said he can use rocks and sticks and w/e.
Itachi get deflect kunai which are thrown towards him. minato throws his kunai in the sky, teleports into sky and from there throws kunai to various places .
And you are comparing itachi a sharingan user to a minato who is fully dependent on his kunai throwing skills.just like nobody can defeat itachi in using sharingan, nobody can defeat minato in kunai .
everyone have their own speciality.


Genjutsu

we all know that itachi doesnt need direct eye contact with the person to get them in a genjutsu. If minato were to try and counter this by not looking at him an amaterasu wuld end it. He wuld eventually have to look at him because itachi is no push over ninja.

Well everyone says that the genjutsu with his hand is weak and minato wuld easily get out of it. Seriously?!?!? something i wanna set straight is that just because a genjutsu isnt tsukuyomi it makes it weak. When naruto was caught in this genjutsu he was causing a large disturbance in his chakra but culdnt break out of it...he needed lady chio's and sakura's help to escape. On top of that naruto clearly described how realistic the genjutsu felt.Proving that it wasnt weak.

naruto was chunnin - jounin level ninja at that time. we are talking about minato here, the hokage.
obviously, he is a kage level ninja who would not fall into such low level genjutsus ...


Now how wuld the genjutsu it's self mess up minato? well even a weak genjutsu takes time to break out off. Just because Itachi isnt as fast as minato does it mean he's slow either. He could easily cover the distance between himself and Minato and do what a lot of ppl say minato wuld do to itachi..cut his throat.
itachi can't move while using finger genjutsu.

Some ppl may say 'but u cant move if ur using a genjutsu'. which wuld be wrong because wen sasuke casted a genjutsu on danzo he was moving just fine. In fact the only thing that stopped sasuke from stabbing danzo in the back wen he was under genjutsu was that curse mark.
that was a low level genjutsu , even said by you...
itachi's genjutsu transports you to his world and makes you see what he wants you to.
coparitively sasuke's genjutsu was alot weaker and didn't required much concentration so.. he could move while using genjutsu.



Susano

with everything ive listed the susano is only really insurance. The yata mirror blocks jutsus. The FTG no matter how u turn it is a jutsu. It wuld be repelled and the theory that Minato could teleport into susano wuld not work. also if itachi decided to use the sword one hit while minatos under genjutsu wuld end it.


your genjutsu theory was countered
minato can dodge sword of totsuka without a problem
minato will just keep dodging all day, how long can itachi handle susano ?

 

[iMicLykTyson]

minato>itachi

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>susano

ftg>amaterasu

knowledge on uchiha and experience fighting tobi> tsukiyomi

U act as if the summons can't be sliced. Even if he summons them from the sky itach will simply move out the way. How are u so sure it will crush a full susano. Itachi can also block the impact and redirect with yata. So ur saying minato will win without looking at itachi's Eyes. This is total disrespect to itachi . If he isn't looking at itachi how will he know if itachi uses ninjutsu with handseals ? Also you forgot izanami

 

[medal32]

Oh a thread about Minato and Itachi, well I have never seen that one before

 

[Necron]

minato<itachi

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<susano

ftg<amaterasu

knowledge on uchiha and experience fighting tobi< tsukiyomi

there, I fixed your terible mistakes...

 

[YourMom]

I read it lol. And I lol'd while reading it. Minato can put that seal anywhere he pleases. He can put it up itachis ass if he wanted to. The only argument I think that you made that was valid was minato vs susanoo. Idk how he's gonna attack susanoo, but I don't think his rasengan can break itachis susanno.

 

[3T3RNaL]

I read it lol. And I lol'd while reading it. Minato can put that seal anywhere he pleases. He can put it up itachis ass if he wanted to. The only argument I think that you made that was valid was minato vs susanoo. Idk how he's gonna attack susanoo, but I don't think his rasengan can break itachis susanno.

how were my arguments invalid?

 

[iMicLykTyson]

Rasengan (not rasenshuriken) ain't got nothing on susano

 

[3T3RNaL]

they both cant harm it because of yata mirror.

 

[iMicLykTyson]

they both cant harm it because of yata mirror.

Madara proved a rasengan can't harm a susano no need for yata

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

Its not that complicated

Itachi always starts with base sharingan = instant genjutsu
The transformation from base to, ms is basically instant so... Tyokiuoumi is still in play from, the start we no nothing about minato's genjutsu defense but being a jiraiya student its likely not great

But I agree itachi is a bad match up for minato
Susanoo
Genjutsu prowess
Amaretsu
Weapon mastery
Intelligence =
Impeccable Hand speed
Prediction & heightened insight
On foot the ability to keep up with minato on foot maybe even faster

 

[TiddlySkydiver]

"Despite his impressive abilities, he never underestimates his opponents, given his praise of Jiraiya, saying the best he could do against the Sannin was a stalemate."

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If Itachi=Jiraiya, Itachi's words not mine, I wonder how Minato would do against Itachi.
Unless you are trying to say Jiraiya>Minato.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

Jesus, just let it be.

This is the MOST ABUSED topic on NB.

 

[Necron]

"Despite his impressive abilities, he never underestimates his opponents, given his praise of Jiraiya, saying the best he could do against the Sannin was a stalemate."

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If Itachi=Jiraiya, Itachi's words not mine, I wonder how Minato would do against Itachi.
Unless you are trying to say Jiraiya>Minato.

A) Not trying to say it, I'm stating it prety clearly... Sage Mode > FTG...
They both give a major boost to your speed, but FTG needs some forplaning to work, and, if a SM user has a way to send away any incoming kunai, he can quickly take out the FTG user before he even gets to use FTG. SM is a very underrated ability, and we only caught a glimps to it's greatness from Kabuto (eventhough I don't like Kabuto, it has to be said...), far greater than merely teleporting to a Kunai...

B) Itachi > Jiraiya by far. He merely didn't want to create a war, as it was later revealed that the reason he appeared, was to remind Danzo he was out there, and that Danzo ought to keep his part of the deal. It's not even a mach for Itachi. His base speed is 5, same with Minato's, so he can keep up with SM Jiraya's speed. Then, he can instantly activate Susano (as shown when he activated it to dodge Kirin, one of the fastest jutsu in the series), so he has a milion ways to Kill him. Minato would not be much diferent. They have the same base speed, arguably Minato being slightly faster, but, a mere kunai won't break what a Kiubi Mode Rasengan couldn't: Susano. So, Minato has no way to reach Itachi, Wile Most of Itachi's moves are instant kill, and only have to strike once. As one can say that Minato might use barier against Amateratsu, eventhough I dissagree for multiple reasons, I'll neglect that. Totsuga Sword basically seals anything it touches, and Minato can't do a thing to avoid that. But, Minato's greates weakness is in fact the very specialty of Itachi: Genjutsu. He has shown next to no resistance to it, but, even if he had, Itachi clearly said that only a Sharingan can break Tsukoyomi. As soon as he looks into Itachi's eyes, it's over. Even if he somewhat resists to Tsukoyomi, like Kakashi did (and I find it quite propable), his 1 second of vulnerability will be enough for Itachi to either seal him with Totsuga, burn him with Amateratsu or Crush him alive with Susano. Face it, fanboys, Minato's best chance of surviving a battle with Itachi is to FTG miles away, and hope Itachi doesn't find him again in his life...

 

[Memoria]

Thread rated as terrible because it will start / started a flame war, and sorry didn't read.