minato cant dodge amaterasu

[darthvader5666]

Not a Minato fan, but he should be able to dodge it with FTG.

 

[Arcaneos510X]

sasuke could dodge it minato is way faster than sasuke so yes he obviously can.

 

[Keytaro]

Q.Q they're not even sitting in the same position, i can list tons of people who sat in a fancy chair like that

I just read your entire explanation on the previous page. It all makes sense to me and there are no flaws. You did your research right. But this post is the answer of the question 'Are the reflexes of Minato faster than A(V2)?', which was being debated between several people and iSpeak. This provides evidence that V2-Raikage has undoubtly the highest reaction speed and best reflexes .

But that was just the answer on the debate between (mainly) ReapTermin x iSpeak. Several others just said Minato and gave explanations why because thats the thread-topic -> 'Is he able to dodge it', in which my statement remains the same: 'Yes he is able to dodge it'. But you changed my way of viewing it. I assumed he would use FTG anywayz(duh), but I thought his reaction speed/reflexes were adequate to dodge it too.

So thanks to you and iSpeak for clearing that up.

For those of you who didn't read it:
Minato is able to dodge it but it REQUIRES FTG basically.

 

[lol99]

well if now ppl are willing to take a characters words as the ultimate truth they we must accept these too

jiraiya can solo itachi and kisame- said by itachi
hiruzen is the strongest hokage- said by iruka

and many others that will take too long to write. Basically what every character has said is true and no one should argue about it. period

 

[Keytaro]

well if now ppl are willing to take a characters words as the ultimate truth they we must accept these too

jiraiya can solo itachi and kisame- said by itachi
hiruzen is the strongest hokage- said by iruka

and many others that will take too long to write. Basically what every character has said is true and no one should argue about it. period

Lol well, I honestly believed that Minato was faster(reaction speed) than A in V2 or on par , but I've been proven wrong( I never said any bullcrap like this thought:'A dodged amaterasu so Minato can dodge it too).

 

[lol99]

Lol well, I honestly believed that Minato was faster(reaction speed) than A in V2 or on par , but I've been proven wrong( I never said any bullcrap like this thought:'A dodged amaterasu so Minato can dodge it too).

there are two translations.

now viz media may be the official translator but that doesn't mean what they translate has to be pin-point accurate. Their aim is profit.
they have been known to twist and censor the manga so that they can broaden their market from teenagers to children

now i don't know Japanese and don't know which translation is more accurate.

my point is if ppl are willing to take a characters words as ultimate truth then fine.
what every character says is true and accept it as it is like the two statements i said above

 

[bmnaruto]

People keep saying Minato can dodge it because Raikage did... that is wrong.
In this situation, reflexes is the dominant factor in dodging the attack from that distance. Because of how small Amaterasu is, you don't need to move that far to dodge it so speed is really that dependent. Minato's reflexes are at V1 level so we can't be sure if he can dodge Amaterasu itself. But since you need to say "Amaterasu" before you use it, he can react to the words instead of Amaterasu itself. Either that, or can can luckily guess the exact moment the opponent uses Amaterasu. Would be hard though since it is shown you can stall Amaterasu from coming out after the eye bleeds.
If anything I said is wrong, someone please explain. Make sure it is someone who knows what they are talking about though.

First of all, do you know the meaning of instantenous reflexes? Minato has it and probably im sure that you know it
And second, tobi tries to sucked minato in a dimension at point blank range and he evaded it, Isn't that enoughto prove minato can dodge amaterasu? You overlook things too much. It's obvious that your wrong so wh not admitting it?

 

[xlilyx]

I think Minato is fast enough to dodge Amaterasu. He can always use the Flying Thunder God Technique if he isn't quick enough to get away from it. He would definately (imo) be able to dodge Amaterasu by using FTG or his intelligence like Sasuke did.

 

[Owarij]

I just read your entire explanation on the previous page. It all makes sense to me and there are no flaws. You did your research right. But this post is the answer of the question 'Are the reflexes of Minato faster than A(V2)?', which was being debated between several people and iSpeak. This provides evidence that V2-Raikage has undoubtly the highest reaction speed and best reflexes .

But that was just the answer on the debate between (mainly) ReapTermin x iSpeak. Several others just said Minato and gave explanations why because thats the thread-topic -> 'Is he able to dodge it', in which my statement remains the same: 'Yes he is able to dodge it'. But you changed my way of viewing it. I assumed he would use FTG anywayz(duh), but I thought his reaction speed/reflexes were adequate to dodge it too.

So thanks to you and iSpeak for clearing that up.

For those of you who didn't read it:
Minato is able to dodge it but it REQUIRES FTG basically.

Minato's reflexes aren't on v2 raikage's level.. that much is certain...
His reflexes are comparable to that of Base Raikage or v1 according to shee..

Now the reflexes Raikage needed to dodge amaterasu a split second before it hit him was V2 enhanced ones... And you see how close it came to hitting him... So how can minato even tell his body to activate ftg which is what reflexes does, if he has only base raikage reflexes?

Can ftg dodge amaterasu? yes, Does minato have the ability to pull it off? No.. ESPECIALLY since he doesn't know what it is..



Ftg itself is just 1 PART of the picture.... 50% of it...He has a jutsu that moves instantly, But it's his reflexes and reaction time that governs when he used that jutsu...

Tobi, yes he was caught off guard.. But he clearly knew what was going on.. He knows about amaterasu.. saw sasuke's eye turn to itachi's mangekyou, saw the eye bleed..
He fully well knew what was about to happen next.. But he couldn't activate his s/t jutsu in time ......

Things that could help Minato dodge it...
1) Knowing what it is..

If minato has knowledge on amaterasu, the moment he see's blood he can ftg.. This is the only way minato can pull it off..

But minato doesn't know about it.. He's never seen it before... And like Jiraya He'd be wondering wtf it is... From the time he realises it's a projectile from the eye , it would be too late

 

[Uchiha Cesar]

you cannot hit what you cant see

 

[somekindawizard]

Learn to write properly! Its way too much effort to work out wtf your actually saying

 

[Keytaro]

Minato's reflexes aren't on v2 raikage's level.. that much is certain...
His reflexes are comparable to that of Base Raikage according to shee..

Now the reflexes Raikage needed to dodge amaterasu a split second before it hit him was V2 enhanced ones... And you see how close it came to hitting him... So how can minato even tell his body to activate ftg which is what reflexes does, if he has only base raikage reflexes?

Can ftg dodge amaterasu? yes, Does minato have the ability to pull it off? No.. ESPECIALLY since he doesn't know what it is..

Bold part
-Does Sasuke or Itachi know what FTG is - how to beat it?
Those sort of questions are always remained unanswered anywayz.

Underlined part
-I know Minato isn't on A's - V2 level of reaction speed/reflexes but that doesn't mean he has insufficient time to 'activate' FTG - Telling your body to activate a teleportation doesn't require any sort of speed excluding reflexes, and yes I know Minato's reflexes aren't on par with A-V2 but that is when it comes to reflex + reaction speed.

Plenty of people posted that manga-page of A dodging amaterasu, that is the excellent example of what I mean, A dodged it by using reflexes(know that it was coming) + reaction speed(dodge itself). Minato's FTG only requires reflexes. I believe he is fast enough to NOTICE the amaterasu just before impact, and he can't dodge it because that requires reaction speed but can dodge it via FTG cause' that would only take reflexes.

Let me know what your thoughts are about this.

 

[Sterling Malory Archer]

Minato tripple Sasuke's speed buddy. Also Minato's FTG is INSTANT Amaterasu still needs to be focused.:noc:

 

[iSpeak]

Time to have a say on this I guess

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Shee says it pretty clearly here....one would have to be new to the english language to not fully get it... He's saying that Minato = Base A reflexes... but with the shroud on, not even sharingan can keep up.. It's unaware whether he's refering to v1 shroud or v2.. it could even be a general statement..


Other translations


Ok.. so if we now know that Minato's reflexes are comparable to base raikage...
But to dodge Amaterasu, he needed V2

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And even when he did dodge it, it was a SPLIT second away from appearing on him

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You even see it growing in size..

How coul anything less than v2 level reflexes dodge it? when Minato clearly has Raikage base level reflexes ...


Don't get me wrong, Minato is fast.. He HAS the tool neccesary for dodging amaterasu....But Ispeak makes sense.. He doesn't have the reflexes necessary to use that tool


Even raikage Needed to build up massive amounts of chakra to even dodge amaterasu with shunshin.. which the sensors noted..

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What are the reflexes I'm taking about? if you don't get it

Here's an explanation by Strategoob

Raikage's reflexes are UNDOUBTEDLY the best...With v2 he surpasses everyone in that category... Yet even with those reflexes, amaterasu was literally a split second away from landing on him...

Tell me how will Minato save himself otherwise?



To conclude, I foolishly believed the same thing.. Minato is faster so he'll dodge it.. I even came in the thread and said that.. But after reading what Ispeak was saying I understand that it's not only about Speed..It can't possibly be..

It's about first
Reflexes, then movement..
Or in minato's case, reflexes then Ftg...

Thank you! Anyone with any bit of sense would realise this. I have been trying to say this for 15+ pages now and they still don't understand. What I am saying isn't even that complicated. But I have given up now anyway, if they still don't understand are 15+ pages of telling them, then it is clear they never will. I have just given up now.

 

[jnagy23]

keep in mind he said SASUKE'S or ITACHI'S amaterasu. now i don't think that itachi amaterasu would be able to hit minato because he does have to focus on the point it is hitting but i think everyone will agree that sasuke amaterasu is better the itachi. we see him able to put it out. able to control where the flames are going and also able to shield his owe body with the flames. not to mention he was able to shoot out multiple flames at once while in susanoo. with all of these to his advantage him sure minato would not be able to dodge all of that

 

[Keytaro]

Lol iSpeak feel free to react on my posts. Owarij convinced me of some things but I still want to clear some things up xD.

 

[iSpeak]

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Are you actually kidding me? This is exactly what I have been saying for the past 15+ pages.

 

[Owarij]

Bold part
-Does Sasuke or Itachi know what FTG is - how to beat it?
Those sort of questions are always remained unanswered anywayz.

Underlined part
-I know Minato isn't on A's - V2 level of reaction speed/reflexes but that doesn't mean he has insufficient time to 'activate' FTG - Telling your body to activate a teleportation doesn't require any sort of speed excluding reflexes, and yes I know Minato's reflexes aren't on par with A-V2 but that is when it comes to reflex + reaction speed.

Plenty of people posted that manga-page of A dodging amaterasu, that is the excellent example of what I mean, A dodged it by using reflexes(know that it was coming) + reaction speed(dodge itself). Minato's FTG only requires reflexes. I believe he is fast enough to NOTICE the amaterasu just before impact, and he can't dodge it because that requires reaction speed but can dodge it via FTG cause' that would only take reflexes.

Let me know what your thoughts are about this.

Itachi would know what Ftg is, He was 5 or 6 when minato was hokage, and just about everyone knew about Minato..
Itachi is also knowledgeable in the hokages and history, whether it be about hashirama, tobirama etc..

He even lectured naruto about his father and his wife and how he became hokage, so he did know alot about Minato...

Sasuke? most likely doesn't, But he would be able to quickly realize what it does once he sees it happening


As for beating ftg, as I said, in a fight sasuke will try to come up with a way to beat him, Setting most the battlefield in amaterasu giving Minato limited ftg spots is one thing he can do ..

But that's just speculation that he'd think that, we have no way of knowing

Are you actually kidding me? This is exactly what I have been saying for the past 15+ pages.

LOL

 

[Keytaro]

Itachi would know what Ftg is, He was 5 or 6 when minato was hokage, and just about everyone knew about Minato..
Itachi is also knowledgeable in the hokages and history, whether it be about hashirama, tobirama etc..

He even lectured naruto about his father and his wife and how he became hokage, so he did know alot about Minato...

Sasuke? most likely doesn't, But he would be able to quickly realize what it does once he sees it happening


As for beating ftg, as I said, in a fight sasuke will try to come up with a way to beat him, Setting most the battlefield in amaterasu giving Minato limited ftg spots is one thing he can do ..

But that's just speculation that he'd think that, we have no way of knowing



LOL

Exactly what I've been trying to clear up. I could , in my defense , react to that as in : 'In the fight with Sasuke , I see Minato outsmarting Sasuke pretty fast and find a way to get the upperhand in the battle.' But things like those are just speculations. Thanks for clearing most of the things up, I defenitely have more to learn!

 

[iSpeak]

Lol iSpeak feel free to react on my posts. Owarij convinced me of some things but I still want to clear some things up xD.

Yeh I have no problem with you because it looked like you actually understood what I was saying from the beginning. With the exception of you and Uzumaki16, I was literally repeating the same thing over and over for 15+ pages and they still didn't understand it.
Then Owarij says it in 1 post and suddenly everyone is enlightened. I want to know how he does it lol.